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I’ll be at the Moscow Geek Picnic this Saturday and Sunday. It will be my first time there. It seems to draw a disproportionate number of interesting Russians, so it’s worth checking it out.

The Geek Picnic is basically a yearly tech festival where technologists and futurists come together to make presentations, tech exhibits, VR simulations, etc.

This year’s theme will focus on radical life extension, with Aubrey de Grey making a guest appearance. I met him once before, at one of Hank Pellissier’s Transhuman Vision conferences in the Bay Area back in 2013 or 2014. He used to avoid giving any dates on when “Robust Human Rejuvenation” will happen, except to stress that it is contingent on funding. But he has grown more optimistic in recent years, placing it at 2037 a few months ago. It will be interesting to see if there are any updates.

Other highlights will include the founder of Pikabu (sort of like Russia’s Reddit), a couple of Russian cosmonauts, a Chinese company that is competing with Boston Dynamics, and a guy who is growing an ear on his arm.

Regular posting will resume as of next Tuesday, now that my immediate priorities – the end of the academic year, and the recent car troubles – are no longer actual.

 
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  1. This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes – within reason.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    • Replies: @anon_californian
  2. @Anatoly Karlin

    Apologies if you’ve covered this before but very curious what the general transhumanist/futurist scene is like in Russia overall in 2019.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  3. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s the Russian Orthodox Church thinking??

    https://religionnews.com/2019/07/09/russian-orthodox-church-considers-a-ban-on-blessing-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

    Russian Orthodox Church considers a ban on blessing weapons of mass destruction

    …Last month, a Russian Orthodox Church committee on ecclesiastical law recommended that clergy concentrate on blessing soldiers, rather than weapons…

    Vsevolod Chaplin, an influential priest and former spokesman for the patriarch, told the Vzglyad newspaper that nuclear weapons were the country’s “guardian angels” and necessary to preserve “Orthodox civilization.”

    “Only nuclear weapons protect Russia from enslavement by the West,” Chaplin said.

  4. Irishman says:

    At various rightist fora including this one, I have at various times over the last three years said that the British nationalists were fools for backing Brexit. Now that their all but certain next Prime Minister has revealed his support for an amnesty for illegal immigrants and an Australian points system(which will be interpreted to mean the abandonment of the tens of thousands target and a browning of the intake) my vindication if clear for all to see. I hope for their sake the fool bungles the whole process and they stay in.

  5. Curious says:

    Congratulations Hungary.

    The global market for battery separators grew 20% last year on a square-meter basis, with Asahi Kasei and Toray among the leading players in the industry.

    TOKYO — Toray Industries will build a factory producing separators for electric-vehicle batteries in Hungary, the first of its kind in Europe, looking to serve an expanding supply chain in a region where increasing regulations are expected to accelerate demand for environmentally friendly cars.

    The Japanese manufacturer plans to invest 200 million euros ($225 million) in the factory, to be located near an existing carbon-fiber plant outside Budapest. The facility, scheduled to go online in July 2021, will boost Toray’s separator production capacity by 20%, supplementing plants in Japan and South Korea.

  6. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Do they actually bless nuclear weapons now? That is…strange, to say the least.

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
  7. humorously, radical life extension may be coming at exactly the time that you don’t want to live for 120 years.

    who wants 120 years of The Current Year? i’d rather die sooner, thanks.

    the planet in 2050 looks absolutely terrible. i’m not signing up for that.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  8. Pericles says:

    He used to avoid giving any dates on when “Robust Human Rejuvenation” will happen, except to stress that it is contingent on funding. But he has grown more optimistic in recent years, placing it at 2037 a few months ago.

    Lol, seems to me like more funding is urgently needed. I assume everyone knows what it means when results will be coming in 20 years.

  9. Pericles says:
    @anon_californian

    what the general transhumanist/futurist scene is like in Russia

    Will there be SJWs at the picnic? Antifa?

  10. @Anon

    …Last month, a Russian Orthodox Church committee on ecclesiastical law recommended that clergy concentrate on blessing soldiers, rather than weapons…

    So Russia is getting pozzed too but half a century behind the schedule. My great-uncle was a Lutheran priest during WWII and he had a really nice collection of books and manuals on appropriate blessings for guns, artillery, tanks and, yes, hand grenades.

    That was all thrown out and replaced with similar feminized cop out reasoning and then all the men fled the religion. What’s the point of a supernatural belief system if it doesn’t even promise you powered up weapons? Would any King, knight or crusader have bothered with Christianity if blessings of the arms weren’t a part of the faith?

    What we really need is a new religion that convinces rulers and warriors that it can bring them success in war and pursuit of power. Christianity can’t do the job anymore if even the clergy fail to believe that its blessings improve missile accuracy.

  11. @anon_californian

    I’ll try to do a post on that. I can directly compare the scenes in the US, London, and Moscow.

  12. notanon says:
    @Irishman

    British nationalists were fools for backing Brexit

    none of the Euro nations are going to survive on their own – the globalist system needs to be brought down as a whole and the way to do that is by stressing the system as a whole.

    the best thing UK nationalists can do currently is to help shift the balance of power inside the EU to reduce the weight of western europe and increase the weight of eastern and southern europe.

    that shift in balance of power – especially given France is almost in civil conflict and the Merkelcide will continue to reduce Germany’s faith in the EU’s anti-european project – will hopefully boomerang to the benefit of UK nationalist’s later.

    i agree in the short term it probably won’t be better and possibly worse.

    • Replies: @Anon000
  13. Curious says:

    So I looked at Pikabu’s frontpage and this was one of the most upvoted threads.

    Apparently some nigerians(!) were trying to cross into Ukraine from Belarus. Given that Ukraine is poorer than Belarus, I doubt it was the final destination. Nevertheless, it makes you think how many illegal africans there are in Belarus (and Russia) hiding out. And how many are crossing the borders from down south (or just flying to Russia on a visa and then disappearing).

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
    , @Anonymous
  14. anon[315] • Disclaimer says:

    Told ya. You can forget about Bitcoin going to 100K. The USSA police state will prevent that. They don’t want to lose control, so they’ll make up any excuse they can. Witness Trump’s tweets yesterday on the subject; they are almost verbatim some of the excuses I’ve listed here on this website. Can’t have dissident political groups being funded, now can we? So, er uh … terrorism, and illegal activity – yeah, gotta ban that. Only approved political groups (all neoliberal, by coenkeydink) can be funded.

    Dumpf:

    I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity….
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2019

    ….Similarly, Facebook Libra’s “virtual currency” will have little standing or dependability. If Facebook and other companies want to become a bank, they must seek a new Banking Charter and become subject to all Banking Regulations, just like other Banks, both National…
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2019

    …and International. We have only one real currency in the USA, and it is stronger than ever, both dependable and reliable. It is by far the most dominant currency anywhere in the World, and it will always stay that way. It is called the United States Dollar!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2019

    • Replies: @Anon000
  15. USA whitepill: the Trump administration is taking a page out of Australia’s playbook and moving asylum seekers to Guatemala for processing.

    Steve Sailer has been suggesting something similar for years.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
  16. Anon000 says:
    @anon

    I passed the Shell gas station at Memorial Drive and Cambridge Street (between MIT and Harvard) in Cambridge, MA yesterday and noticed a neon sign in the window that read, “Bitcoin ATM”. In a gas station.

  17. SFG says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    The white nationalists have been trying some variety of Odinism for a while. Never seems to catch on.

    Nationalism always has the weakness vis-a-vis internationalism/globalism that two nationalistic nations can conflict by pursuing their own interests.

    Communism, while nonsupernatural, functioned as a religion for a while, and brought Russia some imperial success (you could get countries to side with Russia by preaching it and eventually overthrowing the government) until its economic foolishness caused its collapse.

    For the postmodern nationalists? No clue. Islam actually seems to work pretty well in terms of asabiyya but does bad things to your scientific ability.

    If I really wanted to troll everyone here, I’d suggest Judaism–supporting your tribe is OK, you’re allowed to use deception, and it doesn’t seem to harm your scientific ability. Moneymaking ability is definitely unimpaired. You just have to make sure you get a country first.

    Seriously, I’d suggest looking at China–they seem to have no problem propagating their interests, and are proud of their heritage. They balance the best aspects of socialism and capitalism from a national point of view.

  18. Anon000 says:
    @notanon

    the globalist system needs to be brought down as a whole and the way to do that is by stressing the system as a whole.

    Agree. Worse is better. And as part of a creative destruction and a reordering there is no quicker way to reach this stage than wild-ass spending, immigration, wars, leftist political and social agitation, etc. But the right can’t ease up on its rhetoric or fighting for conservative values if only because it raises the level of insanity on the left and center and increases the push to tear it all down. Did you ever hear of abolishing ICE under Obama? Or free healthcare for non-U.S. citizens?

    • Replies: @notanon
  19. @Anonymous

    They tried blessing space launchers but it didn’t work out well, so perhaps they’ve finally realized they’re engineers of souls and not rocket scientists.

  20. @SFG

    Germanic neo-paganism might be more of a thing if Germany had won World War II but now it’s all associated with the most demonized losers in all of history so it appeals only to outcasts and weirdos who want to be outside mainstream society. But then, neo-paganism isn’t doing that well outside of Germanic countries so maybe all that national romanticism would look old fashioned today even if Germany had won.

    There is definitely something to be learned from the Jews and their history of maintaining identity in urban settings. Paganism was always local and it couldn’t survive moving away from the sacred groves. Christianity was well adapted to the agrarian society that existed according to variations of a similar formula from Roman times to the industrial age but it has completely failed to survive the transition from rural agrarian societies to industrial cities. Jews have done extremely well in the transition to modern societies because they were the only ones with a cultural toolkit that worked in urban life.

    It’s a shame that scientology is associated with such ridiculous beliefs and scams. It’s the most successful postmodern religion and it clearly has a lot of the right recipes. Celebrities and lawyers have become some of the most important classes in modern society and we probably can’t change that so recruiting them should be an extremely high priority. If you start a new white people religion you definitely need celebrities and lawyers on your side or you’ll have no defense against Jewish celebrities and lawyers….

    I have some ideas and visions myself but I’d need some charismatic and extroverted guy with to be the actual prophet…

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @notanon
  21. cacad says:

    Why is Xi being such a cuck by refusing to roll out the tanks and declaring martial law in HK, and interning and expelling all foreign journalist?

  22. @Curious

    Russian humor can be a bit cruel at times. Perhaps you didn’t get the Susanin reference in the post. 🙂

    P.S. The most upvoted comment to the post says “let Dr. Alban go and put others in quarantine”.

  23. Anonymous[116] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, our friend Haumea is busy redrawing the map.

    Does it matter?

    Yes it does.

    • Replies: @Anonymoose
  24. @Anonymous

    All right, this thing is definitely a ironic troll. It can’t be real.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curious

    Most likely “fans” from the world cup

  26. Mitleser says:
    @Anon

    …Last month, a Russian Orthodox Church committee on ecclesiastical law recommended that clergy concentrate on blessing soldiers, rather than weapons…

    Thulsa Doom approves.

  27. notanon says:
    @cacad

    after they destroy America the banking mafia intend to move to Hong Kong so they want to keep it as a separate legal entity with no right of extradition to China.

    the banking mafia own half the factories in China and could trash the Chinese economy at any time unless China nationalizes them all.

    Xi can’t nationalize them yet cos it would start a war.

    so he blinked.

  28. notanon says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Germanic neo-paganism might be more of a thing if…

    i think the potentially most useful meta-religion for euro diaspora is not exactly ancestor worship but ancestral reverence.

    this would include
    – own regional paganism
    – classical pagan
    – own regional Christianity (or multiple Christianities e.g. Cath then Prod)
    – enlightenment
    – warhammer 40K

    all very inclusive and yet particular at the same time.

  29. notanon says:
    @Anon000

    But the right can’t ease up on its rhetoric

    absolutely – need to contrast old timey values with pozworld

  30. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymoose


    Haumea and her campaign are 100% real.

    Here in this thread is full Haumea platform. Run and hide, fascists, till you can.

  31. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/11/church-vandalism-france/

    French Police Reported Nearly 900 Acts Of Anti-Catholic Vandalism In 2018. What Is Going On?

    French police reported 129 thefts and 877 acts of vandalism in Catholic spaces in 2018, but neither the Church nor French media are calling attention to the widespread incidents, reported RealClearInvestigations Wednesday.

    “We do know that the government has downplayed the official figures for years … The French government and media seem to be mostly complicit in their silence, perhaps because the Church and Christianity is seen as a historically powerful majority,” Ellen Fantini of the Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination Against Christians in Europe told the Daily Caller News Foundation in an email Thursday.

    Sad.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/no-sign-notre-dame-fire-was-criminal-paris-prosecutor-says-n1022241

    No sign Notre Dame fire was criminal, Paris prosecutor says

    PARIS — A preliminary investigation found no evidence to suggest that a fire that gutted large parts of Notre Dame Cathedral was criminal, the prosecutor’s office said Wednesday.

    The prosecutor’s office said in a statement that several hypotheses about the cause of the April 15 blaze include a malfunctioning electrical system or a smoldering cigarette — to be further investigated in a new probe.

    Totally believable. If you were profoundly mentally retarded.

  32. BTW, I am Tweeting highlights from the Geek Picnic on my Twitter, to be continued tomorrow and made into a post next week.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  33. Mr. Hack says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The guy to the right of you doesn’t look bad, for 157! 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  34. EldnahYm says:
    @Irishman

    It’s unclear to me why people like you think staying in the EU is automatically a defense against increased non-EU immigration. There is a possibility of having both kinds of immigrants.

    Long term the EU is probably going to collapse in spectacular fashion. Any country who gets out sooner will probably benefit in the long run.

    • Replies: @(((They))) Live
  35. EldnahYm says:
    @cacad

    China currently benefits from Hong Kong being a financial hub, I doubt they want to damage that. They’re probably also afraid of negative press abroad.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  36. EldnahYm says:
    @SFG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskalah

    Before this event, the Jews weren’t particularly scientifically accomplished. Your comments on China would also be terribly wrong under the Mao years.

  37. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Hey Anatoly, any good looking female transgenders, say a bit younger in the 90 – 120 year old age bracket? I’m not personally interested, but perhaps for some of your other more devoted tranhumanist fans – maybe a few pix of those would stir up the imagination here? 🙂

  38. @EldnahYm

    Hong Kong also benefits from being treated differently from the PRC. However, it’s not going to work if it becomes just another Chinese province. I think the US has a law that the Department of State has to certify each year that Hong Kong is still sufficiently autonomous to be treated differently. Currently there’s a special trade treaty (and maybe a visa waiver, too?) with Hong Kong, and maybe other treaties and agreements, too, and this makes it highly beneficial for China to keep the status quo.

  39. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    This site also says than Chinese are taking over Siberia, any day now.

    https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/the-chinese-influx-into-asian-russia/

    “For Siberians, there are two things that are like a red rag to a bull,” Svetlana Pavlova, chief editor of the Irkutsk, a Siberia-based IRK.ru news website, said. “One is the Chinese who ‘have taken over everything and leave trash everywhere,’ and the second is their presence on the lake. Here, we have a company building a plant that is 99%-owned by Chinese nationals!”

    Tom Clancy is dead, but his dream, dream of fighting China to the last Russian and Russia to the last Chinese, lives on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_and_the_Dragon

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  40. anon[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Al Fin is some emigrant Pole who has been “obsessed” with Russia for years.

    https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2019/06/20/brief-note-on-russias-dog-days/

    The Russian economy has been in the doldrums, for very good reason. And a top Russian official says that Russia may explode if things do not get better. Russians are starting to feel a bit rowdy, and are beginning to speak out. Even Russians in Crimea are beginning to regret Putin’s rash invasion of the peninsula in 2014.
    But be very careful about mentioning any of this, if you happen to be a foreigner in Russia. You may find yourself being given the boot.

    Yes, the boot.
    Beware of the big Russian boot, Anatoly.

  41. notanon says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Do you guys really prefer stasis to dynamism?

    i assume you mean the various alt-right type factions who want to “go back.”

    the idea behind that is various aspects of modernity are bad* and so on balance the tech progress wasn’t worth it.

    (* one simple example is civilization traded a small number of very healthy people for a much larger number of less healthy people -> more military power)

    i think it’s fairly easy to make the case for the first part although i disagree with the second.

    thing is if you go back to a level of technology suited to whichever era prior to the one where you feel it went wrong (paleo, bronze age, feudal etc) then unless the whole world does the same at the same time then you’re going to be invaded…

    so it’s not a viable option.

    so unless you can take the whole world back to the same era and make it permanent then the only way to go back is to go forward (while analyzing and then keeping in mind what was lost).

    hi-tech bronze age

    • Agree: Hyperborean
    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  42. Remember a Frenchman wrote Planet of the Apes.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  43. Mitleser says:
    @Priss Factor

    The damn frogs of Paris deserve it.

  44. Epigon says:

    I would prefer the original, Hellenic Stasis.

    Competitions and conflicts between ideas, products and arms are meritocratic.

    The current system is rotten to the core, damaging for us, and unsustainable in the long run – held in place by foreign power and globohomo/Atlanticist yoke.

  45. Matra says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    So that’s his story. How did you know that?

    I’ve been occasionally popping in at Al Fin for 6 or 7 years wondering why an American who is not obviously Jewish is so desperate to make readers believe that Russia is on its last legs. Not disclosing his ethnic background like that, whilst pushing such a narrative, is incredibly Jewy.

    On a side note it’ll be interesting to see how Polish right wingers react if Israel – backed by the USA – continues to push the Polish-death-camps!!!-give-us-$$$$-or else agenda. Will they continue licking American balls? ‘Enquiring minds want to know’.

  46. @EldnahYm

    The ruling class in the UK love immigration, it pushes down wages and increases house prices and rents, once the UK leave the EU, I expect non EU immigration to increase, that will be their revenge on the leave voters, the week the UK voted for Brexit I met 5 Croats in my local bar, they left the UK for Ireland because of Brexit, very nice people the Croats, perfect immigrants for the UK/ireland, the Africans ect will cause far more problems

    Also leaving the EU may well lead to a break up of the UK and a united Ireland 🙂

    As for EU collapse, possible I suppose, but if that did happen how long would it take for another entity like the EU to emerge ?

    • Replies: @notanon
  47. @Anatoly Karlin

    Is AlFin Polish? I always wondered who he is. Other than his location being in “Cayman Islands”, I know no other personal details about him. Needless to say, he is my all time favorite blogger.

    He’s always had a bug up his ass about Russia for the 10 years I’ve been reading his blog. Several years ago I asked him why he was so obsessed with Russia and if he was in fact Russian. His only reply was that “it is more complicated than that” and left it at that.

    Aside from his bug about Russia, his blog expresses a world-view that is very similar to that of alt-right and other “right” types. I would think you guys would be totally into what he as to say (aside from Russia, of course). Yet when I bring him up on very alt-right blogs, a lot of the responses seem to be quite negative. I fail to understand the reasoning for such negativity.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  48. @notanon

    My choice to “go back” would be to the 1980’s. I thought U.S. culture and society was perfectly functional in the 1980’s, especially the dating game. Technology, of course, I want to go forward, especially with bio-engineering (radical life extension and regeneration), space colonization, and fusion power.

    Technology is a tool, nothing more and nothing less. Its true that the internet platforms are being too “publisher-like” and censoring content, among other things. This ought to spur the development of internet 3.0 as a truly decentralized system, development of alternative platforms, and any other kind of technology that increases one’s freedom and autonomy.

    The number one technology to increase autonomy and freedom is, of course, anti-aging life extension. The aging process, more than anything like collectivist politics, is the number one cause of the loss of freedom and autonomy. So anyone who seeks freedom and autonomy should want to solve this problem first. Then you will have the ability and, more importantly, the time to go about pursuing all your other life objectives as well as freedom from leftist/collectivist politics. I am continually mystified by the failure of many alt-right types to intuitively understand this dynamic.

  49. Epigon says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Continually pushing an obviously wrong narrative on Russia and current Russian affairs destroys his credibility on the whole.

    His nonsense on Russia can be so easily and quickly disproven that people rightfully question his intelligence and mental health and therefore view his other writing with suspicion.

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  50. Mitleser says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Tools change the user who use them.
    You are not going to get an 80s society with vastly more advanced tech.

  51. Not Raul says:
    @prime noticer

    Narcissistic billionaires want to live that long. If that means the prole herd must be thinned out to make life more pleasant for the elite, they’ll do it.

    If they were really bleeding hearts, Malibu would be full of swarthy refugees.

    Once the buffer is gone, the elite will “discover” that the huddling masses are hate-criminals and terrorists.

  52. Not Raul says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The Chinese won’t conquer Russia for the same reason the USA hasn’t conquered Canada: buying natural resources and crops is much less trouble than military occupation.

    The main source of tension between Canada and the USA is that some in the USA claim that Canada is selling wood to the USA for too low a price.

  53. notanon says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Technology is a tool, nothing more and nothing less.

    i don’t think that’s always true – sometimes technology creates the conditions for new social forms and some of those forms may be worse than what came before.

    however i don’t see how any individual nation or civilization can go back on its own without being invaded by those who retain the technology so seems to me the only way to do it is catalog what you feel was better and then figure out how to bring it back within the current frame.

    for example i put a lot of weight on the “goodness” of reducing child mortality but reducing child mortality is clearly dysgenic in the long term so wat do?

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  54. notanon says:
    @(((They))) Live

    As for EU collapse, possible I suppose, but if that did happen how long would it take for another entity like the EU to emerge ?

    the non-malign element among the original founders of the EU were focused on controlling the spirit that led to two world wars – a 21st century EU weighted more to the south and east would be more inclined to siege of vienna type thinking imo.

  55. Mitleser says:
    @notanon

    Reducing dysgenic problems via bio tech.

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  56. @Epigon

    No, I find that I agree with him on a lot of the other things he writes about. Setting Russia aside, his general thinking about the rest of the world is little different than most of you guys in here. His world-view is what I would call a “competence-based” conservatism. That is, a very “heinleinian” outlook.

    I don’t know about Russia enough to make any comments about what he says about Russia, however. As I said before, he’s really got a bug up his ass about Russia, which makes me think its personal.

    • Replies: @anon
  57. @Mitleser

    You think?

    All of these alt-right types whine incessantly about dysgenics. They whine about how all the stupid people are having most the kids, or the less intelligent races moving into the West. Yet, you present them with a technology to solve the frigging problem and they turn their noses up at it. It make you wonder if they really want to solve the problem, or if they’re simply using the existence of such a problem as nothing more than an excuse to get people to give up personal and/or economic liberty. If its the latter, then the right is no different than the liberal-left in this regard.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  58. AP says:

    Poll about Stalin’s popularity in Ukraine vs. Russia. Another difference between the two countries that has opened up after 2013:

    http://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=rus&cat=reports&id=872&page=1

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  59. anon[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    His world-view is what I would call a “competence-based” conservatism. That is, a very “heinleinian” outlook.

    So his world view is based on works of fiction. No surprise.

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  60. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AP

    Subject to a margin of error, along with interpreting varying aspects of the presented pro-Stalin sentiment – some of which isn’t necessarily so pro-Stalin upon further review. Nevertheless, it stands to reason that he’s less popular in Ukraine on account of the svido western portion in conjunction with the disproportionate Ukrainian suffering during the famine.

    Whether in Russia or elsewhere, too bad about sovok influences like the one saying he won WW II. Some can walk and chew gum at the same time in condemning Stalin and the vile svido nationalism. From a purely ethical standpoint: that Stalin is responsible for more deaths shouldn’t be suggested as a moral pass for the OUN/UPA.

  61. @anon

    Well, any political philosophy that does not value competence above all is pointless, wouldn’t you say?

  62. @reiner Tor

    The SCMP, especially articles written by Minnie chan is not a reliable source concerning PLA matters. The Chinese military is very opaque concerning the technology that it uses and takes OPSEC very serously, so its not like minnie chan has srious sources or even any clue of what she’s talking about. She previously claimed that Liaoning would be sold to Pakistan despite the fact that the ship itself is probably worth as much as the annual budget of the Pakistani armed forces. Even if the chinese cannot develop domestic reactors that are similar in power to russian or american reactors, they can just squeeze a bunch of submarine reactors into the ship just like on the USS enterprise( 8 reactors!) or settle for less speed with only 2 submarine reactors like the french did with the Charles De Gaulle.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  63. @Swarthy Greek

    She based the article on the opinion of a certain Zhou Chenming. (And Li Jie, who said that the French solution would be a very bad one.)

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
  64. @Abelard Lindsey

    When you are going to stop beating your wife?

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  65. Can someone explain the word ‘svidomite’ to me? I asked two Russian girls and got only blank looks

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
  66. @Kent Nationalist

    Can someone explain the word ‘svidomite’ to me? I asked two Russian girls and got only blank looks

    Comes from the Polish “swiadomi” which means conscious, aware; i.e. someone who is nationally aware.

    It’s a specific, acute form of PMB (phimosis of the main brain), spread among Ukrainain patriots, that can especially progress only in a descendant of a Proto-Ukr who has a skull in the shape of a pot from the Cucuteni–Trypillia culture .

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin, WHAT
  67. songbird says:

    Anyone else see that Johnson & Johnson commercial with the two homos?

    I don’t believe I can quote from it verbatim, but here is the gist: we are not just a company for babies anymore. We are working on a vaccine for HIV.

    I have seen some really decadent commercials before, but I think this one topped them all. They were virtue-signaling fags in preference to babies.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  68. @songbird

    I guess we can add fagwashing to greenwashing as a staple of corporate public relations.

    Obviously this is intended to divert focus from the contaminated (adulterated?) baby powder scandal.

    • Agree: songbird, reiner Tor
    • Replies: @songbird
  69. songbird says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    The absurdity of the thing paired with all the other fag commercials for other companies makes me wonder about the similar-sounding SC Johnson, supposedly still family-owned, but a multinational.

    Of course, they are probably only a tenth the size. And I know they are privately-held. But they used (at least a very long time ago) to heavily promote that their HQ as being in Racine, Wisconsin. Like a kind of nationalistic pride for Middle America.

    Have they also fagged out recently? I don’t know. But, if anyone knows, I’d be curious.

    Maybe, it has something to do with corporate structure, or HQ location. I bet that the S&P 500 are heavily lobbied by pressure groups. But, then again, many smaller companies also fag-out.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  70. @songbird

    S.C. Johnson is still based in Racine in the iconic Frank Lloyd Wright campus.

    Unlike Johnson & Johnson, S.C. Johnson rarely the corporation itself. Instead, the brands are promoted. Not many people are likely aware that the same company owns Windex, Raid, Off, Kiwi, Drano, and so forth.

    Probably the most iconic brand they own is Ziploc–as in zipper-lock bags.

    https://ziploc.com

    On their website at least the focus seems to be on children. Diverse children of course.

    Windex’s website appears to have traditional families on it.

    Sometimes the companies themselves don’t have any choice–or at least it’s presented to them as if they have no choice.

    Homintern made Barilla, Italy’s family-owned pasta manufacturer, kiss the ring after their CEO said he wouldn’t use homo-sexuals in branding. Here’s a disturbing article in Bloomberg Businessweek about it: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-05-07/barilla-pasta-s-turnaround-from-homophobia-to-national-pride

    Currently Homintern is targeting the German skincare company Nivea after they repeatedly rejected a homo-sexual advertising campaign: https://www.newsweek.com/nivea-homophobic-gay-1446899

    So far Nivea isn’t bending over. Note that Nivea’s parent company simply refuses to comment on the matter, which is a pro move.

    • Replies: @songbird
  71. PC should be called ‘fake kung fu’. It can’t survive in the ring of truth and real debate. It needs protection, hype, and cult worship to keep it going. PC has so many suckers willing to take a dive to keep its power going.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  72. @Priss Factor

    Wasn’t this guy censured by the PRC authorities? Because he was disrespectful of kung fu or something.

  73. @reiner Tor

    The Ulyanovsk class nuclear aircraft carrier which was under construction before being scrapped IIRC was to be powered by 3 nuclear reactors used in the Kirov class cruiser.

    Other than this all other Russian n carrier designs are vapour ware like the Shtorm concept.

    The Kirov class n reactor has been out of production for 20+ years and one wonders what unforeseen problems will be encountered in the Ulyanovsk class if the French experience with the CDG is anything to go by.

    The Indian Navy was briefly considering making the upcoming the INS Vishal class carrier nuclear but has since apparently settled for a conventionally powered design along the lines of the new British aircraft carriers.

  74. Curious says:

    PSA: Eurostat released a nifty tool to look at all the residence permits issued in 2017 (2018 final numbers are not yet out for all member countries). This includes all visas (student, family, asylum, work etc). Basically an all-in-one. It only looks at non-EU countries.

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/digpub/eumove/vis/eumove_01_04_03/index.html

  75. Mitleser says:
    @Priss Factor

    Reminder that Germans deserved to lose.

  76. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, in the parallel universe next door, things are happening.

  77. Mitleser says:

    Columnist of influential pro-Green German newspaper complains about “lack” of diversity in Budapest: “no Arabs, no visible Muslims, no Blacks”

    Implied demand for restoration of diverse Ottoman Hungary?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  78. Thomm says:

    Check out Steve Sailer. Ted Lieu said nothing about increasing immigration, and in fact said nothing particularly un-American at all. Yet, Steve jumps on him based on a figment of Steve’s imagination.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/immigrant-narcissism/

    Steve Sailer must be very frustrated that he cannot find anything to bash Andrew Yang about.

    As I have said before, Steve is a 100 IQ blogger catering to an 80 IQ audience.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @utu
  79. @Thomm

    Growing up in America, I had people tell me to go back to China. Those folks did not understand America.

    What makes America great is that an immigrant like me can serve in our military & now serve in Congress where I will question Mueller about the felonies committed by @POTUS. https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1150435160174866432

    Ted Lieu is criticizing old stock (or at least Ellis Island) Americans for not “understanding” that what’s great about America is that a foreigner can serve in its government.

    In a narrow sense it’s true that Lieu didn’t call for increasing immigration, but implied in his tweet is that the mission of America is to be taken over by foreigners.

    I don’t think Steve Sailer bashes Andrew Yang because he’s a thoughtful man. Ted Lieu on the other hand is embarrassing.

    You’re off on the IQ scores by two or three standard deviations, no doubt as part of your weird schtick.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  80. utu says:
    @Thomm

    I can see why it bothers you. Go back to India.

  81. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    You’re off on the IQ scores by two or three standard deviations, no doubt as part of your weird schtick.

    This has been pointed out by a number of people beyond just me. For example, Steve Sailer knows embarrassingly little about science (such as the approximate distance of the Moon and Sun from Earth). Fine, he isn’t a science blogger, but still. Most of Steve’s posts are merely gossip, nothing more.

    In a narrow sense it’s true that Lieu didn’t call for increasing immigration, but implied in his tweet is that the mission of America is to be taken over by foreigners.

    I don’t think he said that. It is a safe bet that just about every Democrat wants that, but this Tweet alone is nothing of the sort.

  82. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    This is OT thread full of geeks. conspiracionists and science fiction fans, therefore this is maximally on topic there.

    What is Unz.com take on the UFO question?

    Interest in UFO and aliens largely ceased since 9/11 and spread of the cell phones, but lately, we have seen that the mainstream media want to revive it.
    Many articles in the “respectable” mainstream press about the threat of UFO, something that would be unthinkable in the heyday of UFO madness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/28/ufos-exist-everyone-needs-adjust-that-fact/

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/11/300k-people-are-signed-up-to-storm-area-51-and-see-them-aliens/

    What is going on?

    Are UFOs real space aliens?
    Are they US (or Russian or Chinese) top secret technology?
    Are they excuse for more Pentagon spending (war on terror fizzled out, we need war against aliens)?
    Are they just another BS to distract us?

    • Replies: @neutral
  83. songbird says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    I suppose even Racine isn’t the city it used to be demographically, but it is probably still useful to not be too close to too many ivory towers.

    Thanks for the update on Barilla. I hadn’t heard that they bent the knee. Rather disappointing – Italians seem to have a lot of clannish potential, and if I’m not mistaken most married ones in the US even tend to vote Republican now. (Not that it isn’t a party of spineless turncoats)

    I think these advertising agencies really need to be boycotted. There are so few top ones, and they seem to get all the business, and run crazy globohomo ads. I’d go small and independent, or at least hire a Jap firm or something.

    I haven’t done the research, but I swear they are even making commercials for the Arabs. I was really shocked to see an Emirates commercial recently. White father, black mother and daughter. Girl mentions her uncle – it is a white guy with an Asian girlfriend. This really surprised me because Dubai is supposed to have its own media center, and you’d think that they would be reluctant to put money in the hands of what seems to be a heavily Jewish-influenced industry.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  84. LondonBob says:
    @SFG

    Chinese won’t exist in a hundred years, no children, no heaven either. I will stick with God thanks, the creepy weirdos with Odinism are a hoot though.

  85. LondonBob says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Nuclear weapons explicitly do not discriminate between combatants and non combatants, blessing them is cretinous and contrary to the Christian way of waging war, something that would have been better known in the middle ages period you reference.

  86. LondonBob says:
    @Irishman

    Brexit needs to happen and the ‘Conservative’ party destroyed, Boris will achieve both aims.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  87. Epigon says:
    @LondonBob

    There are no “non-combatants” in industrial wars, though – something which 20th century wars had demonstrated.
    Demographic and economic/industrial base are critical for warmaking potential.

  88. @songbird

    Emirates is run by British executives and largely caters to European clientele.

  89. @LondonBob

    Nuclear weapons are proof of God’s greatness and of the divine spark in humans. Death in purifying nuclear fire is a sacrament and guarantees passage to heaven.

  90. @Haruto Rat

    I think that most of you people don’t know how a blessing works or what it is.

  91. @Thorfinnsson

    Patton disagrees.

    And that’s good enough for me.

  92. @Jaakko Raipala

    Christianity can’t do the job anymore if even the clergy fail to believe that its blessings improve missile accuracy.

    Thus the glory of this transcendentally ridiculous Serbian song.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  93. @Mitleser

    There’s a significant cross-dressing scene in Bridge over the River Kwai. As there is in the French WW1 movie Grand Illusion.

    Your argument is invalid.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    , @Gerard2
  94. @Epigon

    If that is true, then clearly there is a problem with industrial society!

    • Replies: @Epigon
  95. @Abelard Lindsey

    My choice to “go back” would be to the 1980’s. I thought U.S. culture and society was perfectly functional in the 1980’s, especially the dating game.

    Clearly you didn’t grow up in rural or industrial America, or spend time in the U.S. military, where the pozzification was well under way.

  96. Mitleser says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    WWI was a pyrrhic victory for the French and WW2’s Asia front was a disaster for the British.

  97. Mitleser says:
    @LondonBob

    Deus Vult

    • Replies: @songbird
  98. songbird says:
    @LondonBob

    The great thing about nukes is that they frighten the elites. Otherwise, they would probably be throwing millions of young men into meat-grinders.

    Although, one can make the argument that nuclear peace inevitably leads to extreme decadence and rabid globalism.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  99. Epigon says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    I raise your song with Bosniak artillery song:

  100. Epigon says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    If everything was fine with industrial/modern societies, we wouldn’t be here and this site wouldn’t exist and have so many visitors and posters.

  101. @songbird

    The great thing about nukes is that they frighten the elites. Otherwise, they would probably be throwing millions of young men into meat-grinders.

    Although, one can make the argument that nuclear peace inevitably leads to extreme decadence and rabid globalism.

    On the other hand, it is probably hard to top the causualties from a nuclear war in a conventional conflict – and if it would have lead to an earlier weakening/discrediting of the Empire, an earlier war might not have been a wholly negative event.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @songbird
  102. Epigon says:
    @Hyperborean

    There is no need or possibility for war when population is shrinking by ~40% each generation (indigenous European TFR 1.1-1.4).

    No problem fighting large wars when families have 4-6 children on average.

  103. utu says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    My choice to “go back” would be to the 1980’s. I thought U.S. culture and society was perfectly functional in the 1980’s, especially the dating game.

    Are you that awkward/ugly that you need immortality to get laid?

    • LOL: Epigon
    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
  104. songbird says:
    @Hyperborean

    I hate to think of how crazy the Left would go after a nuclear war. Maybe, we would be lucky and urban targets would shift the the political compass of the genepool, or communications would fall apart to the point it would be like giving the hive mind a lobotomy.

    Otherwise, I just think of dystopian novels, like where they turn cannibal-Luddite. Cannibalism as a sacrament to unite the coalition of the fringes. Ludditism in the sense of destroying all technology above the level of the Amish.

  105. @utu

    You alt-right types assume me.

  106. Pericles says:
    @Mitleser

    Columnist of influential pro-Green German newspaper complains about “lack” of diversity in Budapest: “no Arabs, no visible Muslims, no Blacks”

    No need to travel for that. He can see plenty of those at home.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    , @songbird
  107. Pericles says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    All of these alt-right types whine incessantly about dysgenics. They whine about how all the stupid people are having most the kids, or the less intelligent races moving into the West. Yet, you present them with a technology to solve the frigging problem

    Sorry, do you mean your above proposed ‘anti-aging life extension’ as that technology? Reminder that we don’t actually have that, nor any idea about how to achieve it. And it doesn’t solve migration or stupid fertile people either.

    • Replies: @Toronto Russian
  108. Mitleser says:
    @Pericles

    She, her name is Alina Schwermer

  109. songbird says:
    @Mitleser

    I wouldn’t be averse to a party that believed in some moderate form of physiognomy.

    Come to think of it, that is probably what every party is missing. Even AfD essentially comes across as being blank-slatist.

    It might be interesting to compare politicians across the ages, based on historical photos.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @anonymous
  110. songbird says:
    @Pericles

    Heck, why doesn’t she travel to Detroit and Flint and get a little extra?

  111. neutral says:
    @anon

    It’s a useful distraction, nothing else. Those is power do not show any real concern with this, which pretty much indicates that it’s BS.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  112. anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @neutral

    We have to spend money on war anyway, why not spend them on fighting UFO?
    Imagine if, instead of Iraq war, Pentagon and NASA got trillions for defense against aliens.

    • Replies: @neutral
  113. anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    I wouldn’t be averse to a party that believed in some moderate form of physiognomy.

    What you find wrong with skull of the true English conservative guy above?
    He needs only to get rid of the glasses, shave his head and tattoo swastika on his face to fit perfectly into the ranks of alt-right.

    Come to think of it, that is probably what every party is missing. Even AfD essentially comes across as being blank-slatist.

    To measure heads of every prospective member in the traditional 18th century way and reject those with incorrect skull shape? Good idea to ensure that your party never grows out of basement size.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  114. @anonymous

    How does it feel to be wrong?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  115. neutral says:
    @anonymous

    If aliens could master interstellar travel then they would easily defeat everything on earth.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  116. anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    How many of these fine people would you purge from the movement, based on their skull shape?

    • Replies: @EldnahYm
    , @Thorfinnsson
  117. anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @neutral

    If aliens could master interstellar travel then they would easily defeat everything on earth.

    Well, we are still there. Therefore:

    1/aliens already control all human governments and want to keep us alive to anally probe us and harvest our bodily fluids

    2/there are no aliens.

    Take your pick.

  118. EldnahYm says:
    @anonymous

    We can start by purging all people who do not know the difference between phrenology and physiognomy.

    • Agree: songbird
  119. Matra says:

    Zhan Beleniuk, an Olympic wrestler with Rwandan roots, is seeking to enter Ukraine’s parliament as the first mixed-race MP in a bid to overcome racist attitudes and support the country’s young new leader. The Greco-Roman style wrestler, who won silver for Ukraine at the Rio Olympics, is standing for the new Ukrainian president, comedian and actor Volodymyr Zelensky’s party in Sunday’s polls.

    Source

    Russian Reaction Blog’s resident Wizzair fan, Dmitri, will be happy to know that the ULCC will be soon flying from Luton to Moscow and St Petersburg. (British Airways are dropping flights to St P’burg and Kiev).

    Source

    I don’t know how many Russians live in London – and if they are rich they won’t want to be seen on Wizzair – but it’s hard to see how this works without making it easier to get a visa to visit Russia. Apparently Putin has plans to bring in $50 e-visas for all EU citizens in the next couple of years. I doubt he would do that without the EU reciprocating though. Anyway, it would presumably exclude UK citizens once out of the EU.

    • LOL: Anonymoose
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  120. @anonymous

    Based on physiognomy, rather than your strawman, maybe the pencil-neck in the ill-fitting suit an the awkward dude in all black.

    EldnahYm said it best.

    How does it feel to be WRONG?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  121. anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Physiognomy (study of faces) and phrenology (study of skulls) were, back in the 18th century, both seen as part of the same science.

    Based on physiognomy, rather than your strawman, maybe the pencil-neck in the ill-fitting suit an the awkward dude in all black.

    EldnahYm said it best.

    How does it feel to be WRONG?

    So two of eight visible people have to go. How does it feel to eliminate 1/4 of your elite force in one stroke?
    Remember, these are alt right people who actually get off their computers and do something in the real world.
    The best of the best, the elite of the elite of the movement.

    If 1/4 of them are unfit, what does the rest look like?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  122. @anonymous

    Phrenology was a fad of the first half of the nineteenth century, whereas physiognomy originated in classical antiquity.

    You have, inexplicably, gotten even more wrong.

    How does it feel?

  123. Gerard2 says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    There’s a significant cross-dressing scene in Bridge over the River Kwai. As there is in the French WW1 movie Grand Illusion.

    Your argument is invalid.

    True, but their are strong indications that Goering, Himmler and Goebbels ( 6 children notwithstanding) were faggots – all 3 were certainly extremely camp and I’m pretty sure it’s a documented fact, not just rumour, about Goering’s cross-dressing.
    No similar serious allegations can be made towards the British high command. There were rumours about Field-Marshal Montgomerey…..but nobody else

  124. @Pericles

    And it doesn’t solve migration or stupid fertile people either.

    We have the technology for that, it’s called smartphone.

    You traveled all over the globe to interview people for this book. What’s one image or conversation that really made the statistics jump off the page?

    DB: There was a moment when we were sitting in this little school in Srinivaspuri, listening to a focus group of 13 or 14 women who lived there. And I kept seeing this faint glow light up under their saris. I didn’t know what it was. And then I saw one woman reach in and pull out a smartphone, look at it, and put it back. And I realized, here we are in a slum in Delhi, and all these women have smartphones. Who can read. Who have data packages. And I was thinking, they have all of human knowledge in their hands now. What’s the impact of that going to be?

    https://www.wired.com/story/the-world-might-actually-run-out-of-people/

    A commenter on the Livejournal where I found this story replied that the impact is going to be just like everywhere else: increasing traffic to the services that stream porn and cat videos. But if we put jokes aside…

    • Replies: @Pericles
  125. @cacad

    HK is a financial hotspot that many godfathers, cronies, top businessmen and the like use to launder and place their wealth, as a sort of safe haven. Singapore is the other one. It’s a risky and complicated situation I would imagine, and any move like the one you suggested might lead to market turbulence, and even greater fear within, which would be bound to cause negative reverberations.

  126. Curious says:

    Blomph BTFO’d.

    And this only includes the damages to farmers, not the other industries.

    Blompf BTFO’d again.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  127. @Matra

    The UK would be excluded either away (according to current plans).

    Back in the boom days before 2014, there were British expats who commutes to and from Moscow twice a month (or similar). You might be rich, but bimonthly flights will begin to add up even for wealthy professionals.

    It’s also not true ofc that all London Russians are oligarch rich. The majority will just be well off professionals.

  128. LH says:

    How false history is created, an example from the Czech Republic. From today’s Czech language newspaper.

    Now 88 years old Czech woman claimed to be victim of Soviet gulags. At the end of WWII Soviet army dragged her away from city of Brno to Siberia. There she was repeatedly raped and saw horrors like burning sick people in sheds or burying them alive.

    In reality, she was civilian contract worker in the Urals, between years 1946 – 1964. In year 2002 Czech Republic decided to grant compensation to the victims of gulag. The old woman sensed an opportunity, and invented the story. She didn’t get the desired financial compensation (due to lack of any documentation), but she wrote a book, was invited to talk about her experience in schools and was awarded couple of medals. Being perceived as a victim of modern bureaucracy as well, many people send her money.

    However, an historian decided to verify her story and discovered that archived documents say something completely else. This year he published 15 pages long study about it.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @songbird
    , @Beckow
  129. AP says:

    How false history is created, an example from the Czech Republic.

    That’s not the creation of false history, but just one woman’s fake history. Fake story by fake Anastasia doesn’t mean that the Tsar’s family wasn’t murdered.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  130. @Curious

    Farmers are politically powerful. The fact that they need to be paid isn’t indicative that tariffs aren’t working as intended, which one would obviously not measure by their impact on the federal budget (which is the only thing the deficit obsessed Peterson Institute cares about).

    Focusing on the stock market is equally short sighted, though in fairness to the Peterson Institute here that is one of Trump’s own chosen metrics.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  131. Pericles says:
    @Toronto Russian

    I’ve heard the effect of pervasive TV was greater, but smartphones will probably take over that role (especially when combined with Netflix).

  132. Pericles says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    I don’t think the economy has reached an equilibrium from tariffs yet so it’s too soon to say.

  133. songbird says:
    @LH

    Classic probably false gulag story is The Long Walk: The True Story of a Trek to Freedom by Slavomir Rawicz.

    I began to doubt it a little when he mentioned Yeti. A pity – he spoke of participating in the last successful cavalry charge against Germans invading Poland, which would be a very picturesque scene, if it were true.

  134. Beckow says:
    @LH

    False history is created consciously because it serves a political purpose. This woman made up horror stories about Gulag, she has spent years telling them to kids in schools, including ‘sex orgies’ that were according to her very common in Gulag. She has served her role.

    To add: the woman’s mother was a Russian living in Brno since 1920’s – a common criminal by profession. During WWII she declared herself as ethnically German and was a known collaborator with Nazis. At the end of the war, she run away and moved back to her family in Russia – that’s how her daughter ended up living and working there for 20 years. No Gulag.

    This was well known by all around her and they said so, but having a teary story about Gulag was more desirable. I suspect that as with most false-flag hate crimes, a very large percentage of the horror stories taught to us are a similar combination of opportunism, lying and political expediency. It is also done quite knowingly.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  135. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beckow

    False history is created consciously because it serves a political purpose. This woman made up horror stories about Gulag, she has spent years telling them to kids in schools, including ‘sex orgies’ that were according to her very common in Gulag. She has served her role.

    It is sad that there is much lesser demand for gulag stories than holocaust stories, but this is changing.
    See the rising tide of anti-Soviet propaganda (Chernobyl, Stranger things, etc…)just in time after 30 years of fall of USSR – we are seeing the birth of Gulag Industry.

    This woman came out too early. Just few years more, and she could become world famous writer, win Nobel prize and get her story be made into Hollywood blockbuster.
    Wall to wall gore, torture and sadistic sex orgies – this is exactly what the spectators want.

  136. Beckow says:
    @AP

    not a creation of false history, but just one woman’s fake history

    You are being glib. If you look at data, a very large percentage of so-called ‘victim‘ stories is false or heavily exaggerated – often they omit key facts about their own behaviour. Today that is true about the endless hate crime hoaxes where made-up stories seem to approach 100%.

    Some of it is inevitable because people crave simplistic narratives, but intelligent discussion should stay sober, consider that people have incentives to make up things, and apply normal due diligence.

    I was once told that it’s impossible to regard a tragedy from two points of view. That was an excuse to basically lie about history. I get the point that people who have suffered – or were told that their families suffered – will insist on the right to live in their own mythology. (Ukrainians do it a lot, but so do many others.) I prefer to live in truth, the only religion worth having, other than the pageantry of the Easter mass :).

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  137. Mr. Hack says:
    @Beckow

    All of the symbolism and pageantry of the Orthodox church is there to point to some deeper truth. It’s a joy to be able to put it all together, although it’s not absolutely necessary. The most important function of the Orthodox church is to allow its community of Christian believers to congregate and take part in communion. A reading of the gospels is also a part of the mass, as is a discussion of the reading by the priest (presbyter).

    ‘The Orthodox Church is evangelical, but not Protestant. It is orthodox, but not Jewish. It is catholic, but not Roman. It isn’t non-denominational – it is pre-denominational. It has believed, taught, preserved, defended and died for the Faith of the Apostles since the Day of Pentecost 2,000 years ago.” Steven Robinson’

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