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This is a brief update to take pressure off the last Open Thread since its at 700 comments now.

I am still in London. Will be flying back to Moscow on Sunday and resuming regular blogging from Tuesday.

I was very happy to attend the Psychology Conference. Met many people whom I have long admired for their work on IQ research, ancient DNA, etc. Three people (including myself) are writers for the Unz Review. Bad news – this event is a bit “controversial”, as you may have gathered. James Thompson and I decided that it would for the best if he was the one to write about the event, with due scrupulous attention to privacy. I am mentioning this as explanation for why I will be unable to keep my promise to provide a personal report of the proceedings. While I would love to do that, the risks are too high to justify it at this time. Hopefully the current SJW hysteria passes in another 1-2 years.

London update. Distinctly less cargo cult #MeToo / BLM larping than a couple of years ago. You still see both, especially the former, but I get the impression it has more of a background feel now. These seem to have been at least partially replaced by a woke capital vegan drive (typical ad: “strong roots: your plant based friends” with photo of a couple of soggy overpriced pieces of breaded spinach or something like that). Since my last London post was from 2016, perhaps its time to do another one.

 
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  1. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny article from Slate Star Codex about his trip to the American Psychiatric Association’s annual conference:

    https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/05/22/the-apa-meeting-a-photo-essay/

    He points out that many/most of the conferences deal with political topics (climate change, immigration, racism, #MeToo). But this is not necessarily a new development: he also posts a lengthy speech from the president of APA circa 1918 arguing that the greatest threat to psychiatry at that time was…Germany!

  2. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    My heart is split.I don’t know what I want more. Should it be a post on restaurants we’ll never visit, or another update on the Game of Thrones?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  3. New developments regarding the Strache video:
    https://kurier.at/politik/inland/krass-anwalt-will-bei-ibiza-video-auf-wallraffs-spuren-gewandelt-sein/400505215

    The Iranian-born Viennese lawyer Ramin Mirfrakhai who initiated the contact between Gudenus and the fake oligarch’s niece claims to have acted on his own initiative.
    He says it was merely a zivilgesellschaftlich motiviertes Projekt (a civil society project) using legitimate methods of investigative journalism.
    Hard to take this seriously imo, though I guess the media will bury the story now.

  4. @German_reader

    Hard to take this seriously imo, though I guess the media will bury the story now.

    The story has done what it had intended to do: first, to depress the vote share in the EU elections for nationalist parties. Second, to boost the more pliable center-“right”.

    We had a similar campaign here in Sweden with SD. Suddenly there was a supposed sex harassment scandal which very conveniently blew up right before the EU elections with all the media obsessing over it. Now it is quickly being buried as the EU elections are over.

  5. Shower thought: it seems like there are far more researchers in Europe doing research on ‘forbidden topics’ than in the USA. Lynn and Vahanen were/are both based in Europe. You have Heiner Rindermann. James Thompson. Emil Kirkegaard. Davide Piffer. Edward Dutton. And so on.

    In America, I can’t think of as many names. You have people like Garett Jones who are flirting with the ideas.

    It didn’t seem like this in the past. Arthur Jensen was obviously a giant, and so was Philippe Rushton(though in Canada), both of whom made huge contributions. But North America generally doesn’t seem to be producing these people anymore, with a lot of the core research moving to Europe. This is obviously not because their academics are dumber but likely because the suppression is far greater. Or am I missing something here?

    The worst places in Western Europe for any of this is likely Sweden and the UK. I doubt Noah Carl would face as many problems if he was in, say, Finland or Austria. The UK is the most Americanised society in Europe due to the language link. Sweden have none of these researchers because the Red Guards are so far in that it is a non-starter. Ironic given that Rasbiologiska institutet in Uppsala was a pioner in race science in the interwar period and Sweden in general was doing a lot of cutting-edge research. Now we have gone full 180 with gusto.

    I am not aware that there is much research on these topics in East Asia. Though due to their mostly monolithic societies, there is probably less of a need/requirement to think about these matters.

  6. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    Did this lawyer also fund the operation, and recruit the actress who played the oligarch’s niece? Is he independently wealthy? This seems like a bad look for his law practice; I can’t imagine hiring a lawyer who does this sort of thing in his spare time.

    Does the Iranian aspect point towards a Middle Eastern state actor? Perhaps I’m being too simplistic…

  7. @Anonymous

    Does the Iranian aspect point towards a Middle Eastern state actor

    I doubt it, the lawyer is probably a secular émigré who has lived in Austria for most of his life.
    The whole affair is very odd, I don’t know what to make of it tbh. Maybe it’s really just an intra-Austrian affair, with some especially dirty campaigning by the Austrian Social Democrats or some other Austrian group; maybe some foreign intelligence service is involved.
    I don’t really believe the “investigative journalism” explanation though.

  8. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    In America, I can’t think of as many names.

    Greg Cochran? He is an academic at least, although I don’t know how much original research he does anymore. Steve Hsu certainly dips his toes in controversial areas. I admit that I don’t recognize most of the names on your list; of the ones I do recognize, it should be noted that Emil Kirkegaard is not on a university faculty and has no lab affiliation (that I know of), so I don’t know what he proves about the relative tolerance of Europe for politically-incorrect research. The recent case of Alessandro Strumia at CERN indicates that Europe can also be quite intolerant of politically incorrect ideas, however well sourced they may be.

    Regardless, academia in the US is utterly hostile to this sort of inquiry, of that there is no doubt. Bruce Lahn was a promising academic at UChicago who did some studies years ago that suggested a genetic cause for high intelligence with uneven geographic distribution; it provoked the usual firestorm of controversy and he dropped that line of research.

    I do wonder if there is some kind of international “dark web” for genetically-based intelligence research, with a group of people funded by discretely funded by oligarchs and tech companies (and maybe governments) to pursue these questions. Reading Steve Hsu’s blog I notice that he takes a lot of trips to Europe the purposes of which he intentionally leaves vague.

  9. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Yes, let’s get back to the important stuff, lengthy debates about Ukraine, World War 2 and the Orthodox Church. I feel that we are on the verge of a real breakthrough in understanding here!

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • LOL: Denis
  10. @German_reader

    There was no way he could have known that the operation would be successful. Would he spend all the money on it without knowing whether it would be successful? That’s the main problem with it being a private person.

    Then did he personally install the hidden cameras? How did he learn that skill? Has he ever done that before?

    • Replies: @German_reader
  11. @reiner Tor

    Has he ever done that before?

    He tried to sell allegedly incriminating video or photos about Strache (taking suitcases with money, consuming drugs or something of the sort) to Austrian parties in 2015, but it’s not clear what was behind that either, or if that alleged material even existed.
    I don’t find the “I was acting as a private citizen, because I’m so concerned about the dangerous right-wingers, it was just a bit of investigative journalism” explanation convincing either; but it wouldn’t be surprising imo if that became the official narrative now.

  12. LondonBob says:
    @Anonymous

    You would think he would be a cut out anyway, but then look at Jack Ruby and JFK, sometimes it is hard to find a good cut out.

  13. On the rocketing-to-fame once more of the UK’s witty and eloquent Nigel Farage, his ties to Jewish billionaires & other financial backing, & to ultra-Zionist anti-Palestinian settler lobbies –

    Canada’s rebel Jew Henry Makow has a great insight, that oligarchs and their Jewish elite partners, have two rival factions, the internationalist-globalist one symbolised by Soros, and the co-ordinating nationalist one symbolised by Netanyahu … representing perhaps real elite disagreement as to optimum strategy

    But also ensure that in any case of globalist vs nationalist tension, you always have Jewish-tied, oligarch-serving controlled opposition ready to hand for either side, to help channel things … in this case to help channel the anger of British voters over their Brexit betrayal, in ways elites favour. Re Farage:

    “Farage is an Israeli front, a most obvious one if the money trail is followed. Farage has received vast sums from Arron Banks, a British financier closely tied to the Israeli lobby in the US … other routes for funds flow from the US Israeli lobby to Farage”
    – Ian Greenhalgh, Veterans Today
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/24/may-to-resign-boris-to-become-leader-britain-to-join-in-trumps-iran-war/

    3 billionaire families dominate financing of the USA Republican party:
    – Jewish casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson & his wife Miriam
    – Billionaire brothers Charles & David Koch
    – Jewish hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer & his daughter Rebekah
    https://qz.com/1085077/mercers-vs-kochs-vs-adelsons-the-three-ultra-rich-families-battling-for-control-of-the-republican-party/

    The Mercers are the most secretive of the above; their Jewish identity confirmed in Israeli media here:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-on-times-whos-who/

    “In 2014, Steve Bannon set up Breitbart News in London with the specific intention of helping & supporting Farage’s campaign to take Britain out of the EU. The money came from Robert Mercer, the hedge-fund billionaire who would go on to become the single biggest donor to the Trump campaign.”
    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/16/why-britain-needs-its-own-mueller/

    On a lower level of wealth, Farage & his Brexit parties have been funded with millions by two UK figures, ‘insurance tycoon from Basingstoke’ Arron Banks, & ‘former diplomat & businessman’ UK-Belize dual citizen Andy Wigmore:

    “Arron Banks has rented a house in Washington DC for Nigel Farage to use when he visits the US to meet with President Donald Trump. Banks, who has donated over £1 million ($1.2 million) to [Farage parties] since 2014, has signed a five-year lease for a three-bedroom house in the Georgetown district of Washington along with fellow Farage ally & Brexiteer Andy Wigmore. Banks & Wigmore have nicknamed the property the ‘alternative British embassy’ & expect it to host a range of high-profile US politicians as Farage continues to develop his close relationship with the US President.

    Farage, Banks, & Wigmore describe themselves as the ‘bad boys of Brexit’. All three have met with Trump on a number of occasions, including when they posed for a picture with the businessman-turned-politician in Trump Tower.”
    Photo of, from left to right, Arron Banks, Donald Trump, Nigel Farage & Andy Wigmore

    https://www.businessinsider.fr/uk/ukip-donor-aaron-banks-rents-nigel-farage-house-washington-visit-trump-2017-3

    Arron Banks once famously tweeted, “I suppose there are good Jews & bad Jews, then George Soros.”

    Nigel Farage’s political vehicle was UKIP until he resigned from it in December 2018. From the Farage days at UKIP:
    There is a “strong level of UKIP involvement in a recently formed group dedicated to supporting Israel’s war crimes. ‘Friends of Judea & Samaria in the European Parliament’, has been set up in response to the Palestinian call for boycott, divestment & sanctions against Israel.

    It seeks to build a direct link between the Brussels institutions & Israeli settlers. The group was founded by Yossi Dagan, chair of Samaria Regional Council, local authority for some of Israel’s illegal settlements. Fifteen members of the European Parliament support the new group, three of the 15 belong to UKIP, the only party to have more than one.”
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/ukip-dominates-new-support-group-israeli-settlers

    There are questions & investigations as to where & how Arron Banks & Andy Wigmore got their funds for Farage’s political parties, with media notes suggesting, e.g., business contact involving a ‘Russian with Israeli – Belize passports’, and hinting that their fortunes they are able to spend on Farage, have been acquired with some ‘assistance’:

    “The United Kingdom’s Electoral Commission has referred Arron Banks, a British businessman who co-founded one of the campaigns to exit the European Union, for criminal investigation for concealing the source of $10.3 million in campaign funds that were allegedly obtained improperly.”
    https://www.axios.com/aaron-banks-brexit-referred-criminal-investigation-071153a6-6cae-46af-adab-ed05cee3c0e4.html

    “The EU has launched an investigation into claims that wealthy Brexit donor Arron Banks splashed £450,000 on a luxury lifestyle for Nigel Farage following the referendum. The European Parliament’s advisory committee will probe the Brexit Party leader for failing to declare the lavish expenses.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9126418/eu-investigate-nigel-farage-450000-donation-from-arron-banks/

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  14. @Thulean Friend

    Tatu Vanhanen started publishing really controversial stuff on IQ only after he had retired. Retired professors in Finland keep their association with their university forever and they use the honorary title “emeritus professor”. Often they still do some part-time work at the university but they’re not guaranteed any work or pay. Vanhanen became pariah at the university and he was hounded but you can’t fire a retired professor and his title-for-life guaranteed some things like access to journals.

    Edward Dutton is also pariah in academia but he has a title that’s hard to revoke. He’s been persecuted but he has also been exposed for some actually shady behavior (taking someone else’s work published in Finnish and printing a translation in foreign journals as if it’s his own work). I am not a fan.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  15. @Brabantian

    So where is the evidence connecting Arron Banks and Wigmore to Israel?

  16. @Thulean Friend

    Kevin McDonald wrote his books on Jews when he was still a psychology professor.

    You’d think tenure would make America better for that

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  17. Mitleser says:
    @German_reader

    The production of the video was supposed to cost 300k-600k Euro.

    Unklar ist weiterhin, wer den Auftrag zu der Aktion gab. Das Portal „oe24.at“ zitiert einen ehemaligen Chef des Detektivs. Demnach sollen sich die Kosten für die Produktion „zwischen 300.000 und 600.000 Euro“ bewegen.

    https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/regierungskrise-in-oesterreich-spoe-koennte-kurz-aus-dem-amt-kegeln-jetzt-nennt-die-partei-bedingungen_id_10743740.html

    I cannot not believe that the lawyer would have paid for it and let German media publish (parts of) it for free if there was nobody more powerful backing him.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  18. @Anon

    You have a lot of demands for an anon. But I made a grand total of two posts on GoT – probably the biggest ppp culture item since Harry Potter – and the brief restaurants paragraph was a direct response to another, non-anon commenter.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    , @Yevardian
    , @Anon
  19. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I don’t think any of your regular readers give a shit about GoT. Might as well write a London update.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @grey enlightenment2
  20. Well, if you’re not going to write about the psychology conference, you might as well write a newer travelogue post of London. You’re a good writer, but you tend to be too optimistic regarding your yearly output.

  21. @Mitleser

    Who installed the cameras? Who found the Baltic Russian actress? Actually who’s the actress? Do we already have a name? I haven’t seen anything about the actress, not even a picture. So I guess she probably wants to keep her privacy. What would have happened if her face was seen on a camera? It seems like a professional operation, where they expertly organized the whole thing to keep the veil of secrecy intact.

    But maybe I didn’t follow it closely enough.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  22. Dmitry says:

    Since my last London post was from 2016,

    Now (as always since summer 2016) is a relatively good time to try to invest in property in London. British pound is so low, compared to some few years ago, and the prices themselves have not increased over the last almost three years.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  23. @Dmitry

    There are adverts (for property, I gather) exclusively in Chinese on the side of London buses.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  24. Dmitry says:

    I booked a testdrive for Tesla Model X for next week. I want to try Model 3, but it is not configured on the right side yet so I will only be able to testdrive Model X.

    I will not buy a car, but it will be interesting to drive an electric car (has anyone here tried this before?).

    So far I just was playing with the cars in the shop. Both have very strange door handles to open.

    Model X feels like a bit luxurious inside, but with fake wood which reminds you of a Yamaha electric piano. Overall it seems quite large and clumsy.

    Model 3, is without any luxury at all, and has an iPad for controls.

    Model X has this fake wood.and electric piano feeling to it
    I guess Model 3 will become very popular soon.

  25. Dmitry says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    What areas of London would you recommend?

    The nicest areas of London have already become rapidly expensive. On the other hand, the cheap areas – are far too undesirable demographically, culturally and aesthetically.

    A medium-price area which is interesting in my opinion, is West Hampstead, which is still not too expensive (for apartments by standards of London prices) and has quite an acceptable atmosphere when you walk around the area, without too bad demographics or aesthetics. Probably the prices will rise in the next decades there. The problem is it is not very central in the city.

  26. @reiner Tor

    Actually who’s the actress?

    I’ve read claims that she’s a Russian-Latvian widow living in Vienna, but I don’t know if that has been corroborated.

  27. @Jaakko Raipala

    That’s fair, but Reiner Hindermann is the chair of his department in Germany and still in his early 50s, so many years left. Would that have been possible in the US? I’m not saying this research is mainstream in Europe by any stretch, it’s still very much on the margins but the fact remains that most of the core research seems to be moving to Europe.

    Sure, Steve Hsu dips his toes in controversial areas from time to time but not in a direct way like the Europeans. Jensen, Rushton and Gottfredson all did pioneering work in the past but I don’t see many younger North American researchers like you have Piffer or Kirkegaard here in Europe. Though Piffer is doing his PhD in Israel, he is affiliated to the same institute in Ireland as Kirkegaard.

    • Replies: @AP
  28. Anon[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Half of your travel hosts are something or other about the local food, and how it compares with golobohomosphere trends. Outside the US, such a way of describing a culture is expected only from a plumber holidaying at an all-inclusive.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  29. Went to the annual Indian cultural festival in Stockholm today, all done in an outdoor park near the city core. The demographics of the crowd was almost entirely either White or Indian, with a very small minority(5% or less) who were neither. Typically this non-White partner going in with their Swedish partner, most of whom were East Asian women/White man. I literally did not see a single East Asian man/woman couple, despite there being quite a few of them in Stockholm. Not a single black couple. Etc etc. Sort of tells you about the curiosity that White people have to other cultures and how it stands out. Stockholm has plenty of educated immigrant minorities but saw almost none of them here today.

    The dancing that was on display was amazing. There must have been at least 10 different dance routines and we saw probably most of them. I particularly enjoyed the Tamilian one, which was very high energy and had a large ensemble. It was also the only dance routine which featured men and as such was more aggressive and warrior-like.

    Sweden being Sweden, naturally there had to be a fashion show where all the clothes on display had been recycled in an environmentally friendly way. To nobody’s surprise, it was the only segment which had plenty of White people on stage, which sort of tells you that it was probably the Indians’ Swedish friends who crammed it into the schedule. Even many of the young Indian-looking models also had Swedish last names when they did the rollcall at the end, so it was either the offspring of some Swedish liberal dude and his Indian wife or race-mixing Indian women themselves who were influenced by their Swedish partner. This make sense, as Indians don’t seem overtly obsessed with the environment but seem very easily influenced by White people’s opinions.

    Sadly, I saw very little signs of overt Hindu nationalism, possibly because the Indian part of the crowd seemed to be overwhelmingly South Indian. Nearly all the dance routines were in Telugu, Tamil, Kannada according to the schedule. The few Bollywood routines in Hindi seemed to draw blank faces on the crowd, which is not surprising given that many southerners often only know their own regional language + English well (this is particularly true for Tamilians). The South is also typically cast as more resistent to Hindutva given its linkage to “Hindi imposition”, though this is not true for Karnataka.

    There was a two hour free yoga session during the morning but I consciously made sure we skipped that. I had to fight my female company a lot for that given that she is a Yoga fangirl (like so many other White whamen. It’s a fucking cargo cult). There was a henna stall which was mobbed like crazy by Swedish girls. There was a lot of stuff on sale but I’m sure it was all overpriced stuff. Curiously but perhaps not surprisingly, this was the only section where I saw the name “gujarati” or “gujarat” featured prominently. Gujaratis are stereotypically known to be entrepreneuers in India and are often nicknamed ‘gujjews’.

    The food was great and cheap. There must have been 10-12 different food trucks. I learned of a new drink today: mango lassi. The chai was also excellent. It works quite well since these drinks tend to be sweet which is a good complimentary to the spicy food. Also, why would you drink lame US soda when you can drink Indian stuff?
    Overall, a very SWPLy vibe, though still highly enjoyable. Hopefully next year there will be more Saffronisation in the crowd and less of a secular/liberal vibe with lame environmentally recycled fashion shows and more overt religious Hindu iconography.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    , @Anonn
    , @Anon
  30. Dan Hayes says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    Kent Nationalist:

    Kevin McDonald’s academic rights were defended by his institution’s president. Why? Because otherwise he would be sued by KMD.

  31. @Thulean Friend

    it was either the offspring of some Swedish liberal dude and his Indian wife

    Half-Indians are quite qt (certainly compared to Indian women) so it makes sense if they’re models

  32. Anonn says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Most models are Indian father white mother.

    In the opposite scenario you just get a basic white chick with no connection or interest in Indian culture.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  33. @Anonn

    Not true. Subcontinental father/white mother tend to be underclass and white father/subcontinental mother middle or upper middle class.

    • Replies: @Anonn
  34. Finland knocks Russia out of the final against all the betting odds, after knocking Sweden out against all the betting odds. Feels good man.

    I’m rooting for Czechs against Canada atm but sadly Canada is ahead.

    • Replies: @Matra
  35. g2k says:
    @Dmitry

    There are no cheap areas in or anywhere within commuting distance to london anymore. It’s a choice of extremely expensive or more expensive still. The only cheap(ish) satellite town is luton which is scruffy and crime ridden, but extremely well connected. Manchester is more like what you described; expensive nice areas and cheap bad areas.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  36. @Dmitry

    EVs are a better driving experience than ICE cars, I have been in most EVs but only tested the gen 1 Leaf and i3, both cars look like shit, I don’t know what Nissan and BMW were thinking design wise, but they got almost everything else right, excellentt cars if you can live with the range and the looks

    As the batteries/range gets better more people will switch to EVs, you will understand this after driving the Model X

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  37. Matra says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Did you see Canada’s great escape against Switzerland? Even when they send a third or, in this case, fourth string team never bet against Canada.

  38. @Anon

    You seem to have an incredibly high level of presumption to dictate what I should or should not post on my own blog.

    And you don’t even care to be accurate when insulting me (nowhere near half of my travel posts are about food). Or entertaining. Or informative. Banned.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
  39. Anonn says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    In london ghettos sure.

    The racial animosity against Subcontinentals for resisting christian conversion does not really exist outside the UK.

  40. Dmitry says:
    @g2k

    All London is expensive compared to other countries – even bad areas can be the same price as the posh areas in cities of other countries.

    But if you buy for an investment, and with the exchange rate unusually low now – I think West Hampstead is a good compromise. It’s still quite nice (without bad demographics or aesthetics) and the price is not insanely high (it seems cheaper than the more famous areas).
    https://www.kfh.co.uk/north-west-london/west-hampstead/nw6/properties-for-sale/

    The thing I don’t like is that it is not central enough.

    satellite town is luton

    I know the airport there (I have flown the plane from the Luton airport to Tel Aviv, Dublin and Milan) . Without trying to sound like a snob, I am not a fan of that place, of the little I saw. It’s a combination of English industrialized dystopia and Muslim people.

    • Replies: @g2k
  41. Dmitry says:
    @(((They))) Live

    Thanks, I’m not going to buy a car. But it will be interesting to see what it is like to drive an electric car.

    As the batteries/range gets better more people will switch to EVs, you will understand this after driving the Model X

    When you see the cars, you have an impression it should be like people switching to the iPhone was ten years ago. But the prices of Tesla are still far high for mainstream adoption, at least in Europe.

    Tesla Model 3, seems to me (just from sitting at it in the shop), like it would be a fashion accessory for young people or for hipsters. But price of Model 3 in Europe will be e.g. 35% higher than price of the new Honda Civic Type R (which was already considered too high price for its younger audience).

    • Replies: @(((They))) Live
  42. @Dmitry

    Cars are different to phones, some people will drive the same car for a decade but buy a new phone every six months, to change the car fleet takes a long time, just look at Nokia, top dog and then rapid collapse

    Young people tend to buy used cars so of course the Model 3 is too expensive for them

    But there is no doubt the EVs will continue to grow, I read and article on Forbes yesterday about some company with a new battery with 3 times the capacity of the current Lithium-ion cells, and also lower production costs, think about that after your Model X test drive

    Tesla may go bust or get bought by Toyota or Ford, who knows, but EVs are here to stay

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @Pericles
  43. @Thorfinnsson

    Amusing to see college costs up there.

  44. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    Does the Iranian aspect point towards a Middle Eastern state actor?

    it could be but just as likely to be a Soros-style open borders oligarch.

    however in the latter case i imagine they often use ex-spooks to do the actual job so probably at least an indirect “state actor” connection.

    (i’d be surprised if the Iranian lawyer isn’t a spook or ex-spook)

  45. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    i think operations like this (except where the video is kept for use as blackmail to control politicians and journalists) is how the banking mafia rule us.

  46. AP says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Jensen had a good career and and a very positive obituary in the APA journal. If he were 30 years younger I don’t think this would have changed.

  47. g2k says:
    @Dmitry

    West hampstead is fine. I can remember being tempted by ‘the ladders’ in harringey as one of the last places where decent terrace houses (not flats) could still be had for less than a million.

    It’s a combination of English industrialized dystopia and Muslim people.

    That was probably a representative sample then. It’s about 20% cheaper than any similar sized town town in a comparable location for a reason.

  48. LondonBob says:
    @Dmitry

    Prime London is down twenty percent in the past two years and I don’t see any reason it shouldn’t drop further, mortgages are still very cheap and employment high, yet prices drop. The global real estate boom has popped. Transactions are well down and only people realistic on price are selling. We have done two price drops, but then we bought in the mid nineties so it really doesn’t matter as we are still way ahead.

    The only properties doing well are this in shorter supply, family homes whether detached, semis or terraced in suburbs where people want to raise families like SW London (East Sheen, Barnes, Richmond, Wimbledon) or SE London if you have a smaller budget.

    The Wikipedia ethnic map of London will tell you why these areas are desirable.

  49. @Dmitry

    It’s an area near there that a friend of mine had a black youth throw a brick at him shouting an anti-white slur

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  50. Dmitry says:
    @LondonBob

    Thanks that is interesting.

    Prime London is down twenty percent in the past two years and I don’t see any reason it shouldn’t drop further

    And British pound is still close to its multiyear low since 2016. So it seems like the good time for paying for deposit for property in London, even if the prices still are far too high (by comparison to a few years ago, the situation is preferable).

    Tax policy in the UK makes it more complicated, in particular with “inheritance tax”, which is why property needs to be legally bought only by children, and excluding parents from the legal documents.

    At the same time, to maximize the profit, you need to try to attain the largest possible mortgage that is legally possible, as a larger mortgage will be repaid by larger rental income of the more expensive apartment.

    Problem is that size of the mortgage that can be borrowed from the bank, which is determined by income, and why it’s usually best to use “multi person” mortgage, to try get the largest possible mortgage.

    With Jersey or UK banks, I wonder if that’s possible for non-citizens to create multiperson mortgage with siblings with a larger income but which is in another country? In that case the size of the mortgage could be increased multiple times, but majority of income you secure mortgage from is in a different currency, which I wonder if the risk of currency movement would scare the banks from giving the largest mortgages? (Even though in reality, actual mortgage would be paid in the national currency by renters).

    Other uncertain questions are…

    1. What will happen with the exchange rate after Brexit. Pound could become even lower. In the case of a “hard brexit”, for example. And how long would this opportunity stay after brexit?

    2. How the attitude to foreigners’ taxes will change after brexit? And the problem of British tax policy.

    If Boris Johnson is Prime Minister, perhaps it will be perfect conditions next year (falling exchange rate after “hard brexit”) in relation to deposit payment.

    But risk is that additional taxes could be added to non-citizens who have bought property (this already has happened in recent years to people who buy apartments in countries like Israel).

    where people want to raise families like SW London (East Sheen, Barnes, Richmond, Wimbledon) or SE London if you have a smaller budget.

    The Wikipedia ethnic map of London will tell you why these areas are desirable.

    Within London, I prefer the atmosphere in North West of the river.

    When you go to South of the river, it feels like you almost leave the city.

    Demographically, I guess Arabs are the worst for overpricing the apartments – some areas in London like St John’s Wood seem to be insanely expensive for this reason. This is why I was surprised prices of similar apartments in West Hampstead seem a lot cheaper than in St John’s Wood. I guess Arabs have not discovered it yet.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  51. Dmitry says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    West and South West are much more expensive areas, while it’s touching on its South East and East are much cheaper areas. This is why it seems like a compromise area at the moment.

    I guess when black youths with bricks are enough kilometers away, then too many people invest and overpricing is like St John’s Wood level.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  52. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    West and South West are much more expensive areas, while it’s touching on its South East and East are much cheaper areas. This is why it seems like a compromise area at the moment.

    Oops I wrote the comment backwards.

    East and South East are much more expensive areas, while it’s touching on its South West and West are much cheaper areas..

  53. Pericles says:
    @(((They))) Live

    The smartphone market seems to be nearly over by now. Almost every potential buyer already has one, and there are no new models driving upgrades. The upgrade cycle will be years, not months. The struggle will no longer be to draw in fresh users, but to steal customers from each other.

    Apple no longer reports smartphone sales, a tell if I ever saw one.

    (Shocks like this trade war between China and the US will make life even more interesting for the manufacturers for a while.)

  54. @LondonBob

    The global real estate boom has popped

    More like taken a pause, I’m afraid. Many developing countries are not going to grow very fast in economic terms but are in population. The net result is that while the share of the rich stays relatively stable, the absolute number is rising.

    Any English-speaking country will be a huge magnet for these people this entire century since English is the global lingua franca and will remain so. London is a great city and will BTFO any third world shithole, even if they can live like kings there.

    Furthermore, if you look at the fundamentals, housing prices would need to drop something like 40-50% to be where they were in relation to median incomes back in the 1970s when housing was actually affordable for the vast majority of people. I doubt that will happen as long as the borders are open and as long as the private sector has total control over housing construction, wherein it has an inherent interest in keeping supply lower than demand to boost profits.

    • Replies: @g2k
  55. LondonBob says:
    @Dmitry

    It is common, if you have the money, to buy another flat in the name of your children, not sure about the rules for mortgages of foreign nationals.

    The claim is that the pound could drop ten percent in the event of a no deal Brexit, but I could only imagine if this did happen that it would be only a spike down with a quick recovery. The British economy has strong fundamentals compared to many EU economies and the US, and they say fair value is probably ten percent higher than it is. In the long term the pound should move back up.

    Property to avoid is ‘luxury’ apartments in bad areas of London that are marketed at Chinese investors.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  56. Looks like my retarded lemming countrymen voted very strongly for the Greens in the EU elections:

    AfD did a poor campaign (including a cringeworthy slave market poster in Berlin), but still, if the result is really 10,5%, it’s disappointing.
    Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  57. @LondonBob

    I own a family home in Wimbledon that is rented out and prices don’t seem to have declined much for properties on the same street. Although that mostly may be because there is an outstanding CofE primary a five minute walk away. Not sure how prices in places like Colliers Wood have done recently or how SW prices will fare if Heathrow expansion means a lot more aircraft noise. Kew Gardens seems to have a plane flying over every two minutes as it is.

  58. @Dmitry

    West Hampstead is cheaper because it is right by Kilburn High Road which is rather grimy and crime-prone. West Kensington is about the same price-wise, quite central and much safer.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/street-in-west-hampstead-is-hit-by-20-smash-and-grab-attacks-in-just-six-weeks-a3892221.html

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  59. @Yevardian

    ditto. don’t care about GOT

  60. @Dmitry

    I had a ride in my cousin’s Model X a few weeks ago. Acceleration is very fast, software and self-driving (and self-parking) features are impressive. The lack of an engine means you don’t need to have it annually serviced, there is a lot more space available compared to petrol cars and you have a very quiet ride. I am not sure about the build quality though and the self-driving appeared to fail at one point when we were headed towards a wall.

  61. g2k says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Yes, especially when you consider the fact that central banks have been cranking up interest rates for the past couple of years. If there’s ever a shock which might harm prices, you can bet they’ll slash them to practically nothing again, first time buyers be dammed.

  62. notanon says:
    @Thulean Friend

    it would be funny if that game was moddable to make robot nazis the good guys and horrible SJW man-women the baddies.

  63. Matra says:

    The Flemish nationalists came first in Belgium! The Walloons are continuing to vote for leftists. I hate to say it because Belgium has the beast cuisine and beer in the world and it’s easily one of the most fascinating countries ever but I think it is time for Belgium to break up.

    Meanwhile in Britain the Conservatard Party is getting its candy ass smacked down. In Sheffield 3.4% – below the Sargon Party at 3.9% – and in Newcastle – OK not exactly Tory land – 5.4%. Labour doing poorly as well.

    Tsipras in Greece has called a snap election after a disappointing night,

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  64. Dmitry says:
    @LondonBob

    It is common, if you have the money, to buy another flat in the name of your children, not sure about the rules for mortgages of foreign nationals.

    It”s really a distortion resulting from British “inheritance taxation policy” (and it’s even worse in France).

    It’s why policies like “inheritance taxation” are – aside from in principle being actually a crime (where a government is stealing the money of the ordinary people) – at best producing distorted behaviour to avoid it.

    In relation to mortgages, I know it’s possible for foreign nationals to attain a mortgage for buying property in the UK, even with a foreign income – and it’s common to do this with banks of Jersey.

    What would be interesting is if it is possible to attain a multiple person mortgage from Jersey, with multiple foreign nationals who have incomes in different countries.

    Multiple person mortgage, allows the mortgage to be much larger. And of course, this eventually results in “more free money”, as a mortgage will be repaid not with your own money, but only with the money of the people who rent the apartment from you (or through rental agency which pays you).

    The claim is that the pound could drop ten percent in the event of a no deal Brexit, but I could only imagine if this did happen that it would be only a spike down with a quick recovery. The British economy has strong fundamentals compared to many EU economies and the US,

    I’m not any expert, but I agree I think UK has good fundamentals, and after Brexit could eventually become very competitive. This especially if Scotland leaves from the UK, and the politics moves more to the right on the political spectrum (Scotland’s voters are very leftist).

    Property to avoid is ‘luxury’ apartments in bad areas of London that are marketed at Chinese investors.

    Someone said a lot of Chinese and Singaporean are investing to build student property in the UK.

  65. Dmitry says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Any apartment in the nicer buildings of, West Kensington seems more expensive though.

    The cheaper apartments there look like they are only in modernist buildings.

    Personally, I do not care at all about area, and do not care about living in cheap apartments in “dangerous” (although in West Europe this doesn’t really exist) parts of any city.

    Of course, from perspective of property price and investing people, then perception of crime is very relevant.

  66. @German_reader

    including a cringeworthy slave market poster in Berlin

    It was radical and good. Their problem is rather that they are extreme Zionist bootlickers and like many “nationalist” parties in Europe focus on Islam and attack it from a liberal viewpoint.

    But I do not believe that the current political system allows for a fundamental critique of the (neo)liberal world view. Such parties get banned. Just as genuine dissident rightist get deplatformed, doxxed, fired from their jobs and sometimes even jailed, though for minor/light sentences. That’s why the metapolitical work is far more important. Electoral politics is the final step.

  67. Yevardian says:

    Totally objective and unbiased documentary on 2018 Hungary if anyone is interested:

    Just listening to each talk, Gyurgyany seems far more intelligent than Orban, though that’s not really surprising.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  68. “Hopefully the current SJW hysteria passes in another 1-2 years.”

    if a democrat wins the 2020 election, you’ll never be able to show your face on the internet again. and you know it.

    not meant in a hostile tone of voice. text doesn’t convey tone well.

    so, no. if trump doesn’t get re-elected, you won’t be writing about any of this stuff ever again.

    yeah, yeah. you’ll be able to post in russian, on some russian site. that nobody will read. all english language internet will be wiped clean in 2 years tops, never to return again.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  69. @Matra

    The UK right-wing is a complete disaster for reasons that are beyond me. Farage has bought into the liberal attacks by making almost every poster a picture of him and a random non-White person. It really screams “liberals call me racist and I’m desperate to prove them otherwise.”

    Farage should take a hard look at who is at his rallies. It’s White as the mountain caps. That’s his constituency and he should fight for them.

    Sargon getting BTFO’d is great. His ‘muh individualism’ is unilateral disarmament and actively harmful when everyone else is playing as a team. The Tories are such a mess that one need not even discuss it.

    The only positive outcome of all of that is that it leaves the field open for a genuine right-wing party given that all the other contenders are useless.

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    , @LondonBob
  70. @prime noticer

    if trump doesn’t get re-elected, you won’t be writing about any of this stuff ever again.

    Censorship has massively escalated under Trump’s rule. He has done nothing than meekly protest/whine about it. His Justive department has refused to brand antifa as a terrorist group but prosecuted Proud Boys – who weren’t even ethnonationalists.

    Trump is a stooge of the system meant to pacify you. Free speech was objectively stronger under Obama, though not because Obama is a Based Black Man, but rather because the system itself felt less threatened when he ruled. Point I’m making here is that presidents matter way less than you think they do.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  71. Right-wing’s share is not increasing but there is radicalisation. The key question is who is in the grey bloc. Also, remember that someone like Babis is in Alde, who is quite sensible on many questions, whereas Moderaterna in Sweden are part of the EPP center-“right” and have demanded that Orban be expelled and want to introduce forced asylum quotas. So just looking at the blocs alone is not sufficient on its own if you want to draw political conclusions.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  72. @Dmitry

    Spent 2 years living in West Hampstead (until very recently). Nice middle-class area and would have been happy to stay longer but hemmed in by crap areas like Finchley and Kilburn. Family still owns a property there – 3 bed flat can go for not far off 1 million. Nice house 2 million.

    Still a surprisingly English/British feel to the place for a Zone 1/2 neighbourhood, so don’t add to the decline please 😉

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  73. @Thulean Friend

    Seems to be working. Farage has had unprecedented success with a party founded six weeks ago, run on the internet and with no political representation whatsoever. UKIP decided to become an explicitly anti-Islam party. Their leader Gerard Batten lost his European parliament seat, they did very poorly in these elections and they lost about 80% of their seats in the local elections four weeks ago. Tommy Robinson who they brought in as an adviser did so badly he lost his candidate deposit.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  74. @Ali Choudhury

    My general take is that explicit ethnonationalist signalling is a political dead end with Anglos. At least outside of Queensland and Ulster.

    Unfortunate but nothing that needs to stop us from fighting elections. The blueprint is already there having been established by (candidate) Trump and Farage.

    I wonder if Farage plans to contest the next UK general election with his new party.

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Kent Nationalist
  75. Reykur says:

    Long time reader, first time commenter. I was very surprised to learn from your twitter that you voted for UK LibDems in this EU election. Why? If not just for lulz – that I undersand as a fellow LDPR voter. LibDems look like globalist SWPL party, not insane leftist, but not based on any issue. Long time ago I read about student support for them, as they were opposed to rapid rise of university tuition. Also I recall that they had a little more sane copyright and net privacy policies than other two mainstream parties. And I have never heard any mention of them as a russophile party (or ever just pro-russian in any way). So your support for them is puzzling for me. Can you elebarate on this – if this was more than a joke from LDPR voter?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  76. Dmitry says:
    @Reykur

    Liberal Democrats are the only political party which supports UK retaining in the EU.

    Karlin has apparently British citizenship. British passport is one of the most powerful and desirable passports in the world. However, the power of this passport will be significantly reduced in the future if/when UK brexits from EU (although obviously, British passport will still be far better/more powerful than the Russian one, it won’t allow easy living or necessarily visa-free travel in the Schengen Area).

    So rational choice is Liberal Democrats, for a person with his self-interest (in addition, the general views probably align).

    • Replies: @Reykur
  77. Dmitry says:
    @Pumblechook

    It’s interesting there are a lot of English people here.

    so don’t add to the decline please

    I personally, have not live in London, so do not worry.

    So do you think it is a declining area? My idea is that is one of the potentially highly ascending areas?

    It has not reached high prices of neighbouring areas. However, I assume that in 30 years (or longest mortgage period), it will probably be on a much higher price than today.

    Nice middle-class area and would have been happy to stay longer but hemmed in by crap areas like Finchley and Kilburn. Family still owns a property there – 3 bed flat can go for not far off 1 million. Nice house 2 million.

    I only walked through, but I think its atmosphere is quite good there – a lot of young people, a lot of restaurants and cafes. And a lot of apartments in 19th century buildings. It’s not the most charming area in London, but it’s somewhere near the upper-middle ranking.

    Further central/South, St John’s Wood, it’s often already a lot more expensive, and it seems more difficult to afford for even small interiorly modern apartments that would be ideal for use by the rental agency.

    • Replies: @notanon
  78. Reykur says:
    @Dmitry

    Retaining visa-free access to Schengen Area explains the choice sufficiently. Of course, it’s more rational to vote according to this (especially for someone who doesn’t live in the UK) than to vote according to ideological preferences. As I understand, all mainstream politics in the UK is russophobic to some degree, so it’s tempting to choose the most convinient evil among different kinds of evil)

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  79. Mitleser says:
    @Reykur

    Retaining visa-free access to Schengen Area explains the choice sufficiently. Of course, it’s more rational to vote according to this

    Same applies to Paul Robinson’s choice.

    Being a British as well as a Canadian citizen, and having been resident in the United Kingdom within the last 15 years, I have a vote in the imminent referendum on whether the UK should leave the European Union (EU). Today I received my postal ballot. I intend to put a cross in the box marked ‘Remain a member of the European Union’.

    What I can be sure of is that leaving the EU would deprive my family of benefits which it enjoys at the moment. Being a citizen of the EU allows one to live, study, and work anywhere in the Union without hindrance. This is a tremendous privilege. Members of my family may wish to go to university in Europe and make lives for themselves there. Brexit wouldn’t make this impossible for them, but it would certainly make it more difficult. From a purely person perspective, I would rather that my children had access to a union of 500 million people and an area of four million square kilometres than be limited to one small island near the far western edge of the Eurasian continent.

    https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/vote-for-remain/

  80. Mitleser says:

    Austrian government voted out by the Austrian parliament.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  81. @Mitleser

    Interesting new article about the background to the Strache video:
    http://www.eu-infothek.com/ibiza-connection-die-unfassbare-einzigartige-ganze-geschichte/

    I don’t have time to write in more detail about it (all the more so since commenters here seem to be more interested in “game” and similar truly important stuff), but some key points:
    – the video was allegedly produced by employees of a security form who had fallen on hard times, on their own initiative; basically they hoped to use it for blackmail or sell it to interested parties.
    – the villa on Ibiza had already been used before for stings against organized crime by the security agencies and financial police forces of several countries; it was already bugged and had surveillance equipment in place which drove down costs. The security firm employees learned about this from their contacts with Austrian intelligence services.
    – The security firm employees tried to sell the video to Austrian parties or the STRABAG construction firm in 2017, but no one was willing to pay their price or to take the risks involved, so the video was shelved at first.
    – Then, possibly at the suggestion of Viennese political circles, they found a buyer in Germany…the Berlin-based Zentrum für politische Schönheit (centre for political beauty), an “artists’ collective” known for its open borders-activism (I wrote about them in a previous comment). The German lefties weren’t willing to pay the full price for the video (1,5-2 million), but eventually bought seven sequences of their own choice for 600 000 Euros.
    If true, that obviously raises the question where they got 600 000 Euros from…my bet is that it might well be German taxpayers’ money, since the German government showers money on all sorts of dubious NGOs in its Kampf gegen Rechts.

    Perversely, those far left open borders freaks have now achieved their goal of destroying the Austrian coalition government (though Kurz must take much of the blame for this turn of events).

  82. @German_reader

    Assuming this story is true, and that is a very large assumption, is this legal?

    Also note to self, be very careful when booking vacation rentals.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  83. South Africa in 2019. A bunch of EFF sheboons and their student sympathisers go full nigger on their university.

    In an interview, the white cuck says:

    “I was so angry and annoyed. I don’t know why, but these things affect me, so I just went and said: ‘You know what, I’m going to start cleaning up. Maybe people will join me’.”

    What is amazing is that he spent 30(!) minutes cleaning up after them. To nobody’s surprise, absolute not a single black helped him. In fact, as the article notes, many students even joined in on the EFF sheboon littering spectacle. What was his lesson learned?

    Some people on social media offered to raise money to pay for Binding’s tuition, donate money or start a possible crowdfunding campaign. But Binding said he would like to start an NGO called #StartTalkingSA.
    “We, as South Africans, have to start talking about the things that are important.”

    So instead of taking the money and emigrating ASAP, he’s now going to go on a liberal crusade. This is what I mean when I say some white people deserve to be wiped out. Possibly most whites. It’s impossible to have sympathy for people with such a blatant suicide wish.

    • Replies: @notanon
  84. @Thorfinnsson

    Assuming this story is true, and that is a very large assumption, is this legal?

    no idea tbh, maybe someone will get charged for something, maybe not. But the political damage has been done in any case.

  85. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    Interesting. I guess I don’t really consider that intelligence types would do things “on spec” (on their own initiative without guarantee of payment), but why not? These are private firms and engaged in entrepreneurial activities. We know that Fusion GPS/Christopher Steele were actively marketing themselves to the highest bidder.

    Of course there is still some element of collusion with the security services, per your account; if Austria is anything like the US I’m sure they were all too happy to help take the FPÖ down. Mission accomplished.

  86. @German_reader

    It sounds rather dubious that they engaged upon it before having a buyer interested. That also sounds like exactly what you would say if you were being careful about avoiding conspiracy (I assume something similar exists in Austrian law) charges.

  87. notanon says:
    @Dmitry

    So do you think it is a declining area? My idea is that is one of the potentially highly ascending areas?

    London is in the process of being turned into a dystopian nightmare (like New York in the 1970s except with fewer guns and more machetes and acid attacks) but (like New York) once the last (non super rich) Anglos are cleansed the people doing it will want to replace the more dangerous minority groups with less dangerous ones to be their future servant class so…

    if you’re looking for a good 50 year investment then the last few places clinging to cosy middle class now will probably be the first to come out of the dark age in two generations time.

  88. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    the video was allegedly produced by employees of a security form who had fallen on hard times, on their own initiative

    spooks

    Then, possibly at the suggestion of Viennese political circles, they found a buyer in Germany…the Berlin-based Zentrum für politische Schönheit (centre for political beauty), an “artists’ collective” known for its open borders-activism

    cover story

    If true, that obviously raises the question where they got 600 000 Euros from

    oligarch or government (or both i.e. politician bribed to give public money to an oligarch’s open borders NGO)

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  89. LondonBob says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Two of the Brexit Party founders have had to resign for some relatively mild comments they once made.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6832203/Leader-Farage-backed-Brexit-Party-resigns-anti-Muslim-tweets-revealed.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/05/brexit-party-figures-who-left-over-offensive-posts-are-still-directors

    Farage is a an extremely savvy politician, so he knows how to play the game. As for UKIP they are a joke and seem to be run by a bunch of odd bods who rant on about Islam Pamela Geller style. They got sidelined as soon as Farage jumped ship.

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Kent Nationalist
  90. LondonBob says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    I grew up under the flight path so can block it out. Heathrow expansion won’t hit the areas already experiencing noise pollution but large swathes of West London will get a nasty surprise if it ever does get built. I still don’t think expansion will happen, Heathrow is just in the wrong place, but politicians are the only people dumb and corrupt enough to approve it.

  91. notanon says:
    @Thulean Friend

    It’s impossible to have sympathy for people…

    who are genetically programmed to care about public goods.

  92. @German_reader

    they hoped to use it for blackmail or sell it to interested parties.

    And it’s legal? Is it not already an admission of an intent to commit a crime?

    – the villa on Ibiza had already been used before for stings against organized crime by the security agencies and financial police forces of several countries; it was already bugged and had surveillance equipment in place

    And it’s legal to rent out a bugged villa which the tenants could then use to illegally bug their guests? A more ordinary usage would be to organize orgies or simply have casual sex and record the thing without consent from the parties involved. Then maybe use it for blackmail, or upload it to porn sites.

    The security firm employees learned about this from their contacts with Austrian intelligence services.

    And how’s that legal? Are the members of intelligence services supposed to tell such state secrets to a group of criminals intent on blackmailing someone? Does it not make the members of the intelligence services themselves complicit in the crime?

    – Then, possibly at the suggestion of Viennese political circles, they found a buyer in Germany…the Berlin-based Zentrum für politische Schönheit (centre for political beauty), an “artists’ collective” known for its open borders-activism (I wrote about them in a previous comment). The German lefties weren’t willing to pay the full price for the video (1,5-2 million), but eventually bought seven sequences of their own choice for 600 000 Euros.

    I’m not even sure that buying such an illegally recorded video from criminals is all that fine and dandy either, though at least they probably didn’t break any laws here. Or did they? I’m not sure.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  93. @Anatoly Karlin

    Egads, get some thicker skin, man. You’re here to entertain, not the demonstrate your sheer genius.

    This is the internet, home of the clowns.

  94. notanon says:
    @LondonBob

    UKIP tried to tap into the youth vote via the “edginess” of two youtube stars but the edge online is different to the edge irl so they came unstuck.

    a lesson to be learned by any party that wants to try this.

  95. @reiner Tor

    Question of “Is it legal” isn’t terribly relevant imo, laws only matter if there’s someone to enforce them…if there’s no political will to go after those responsible for creating and releasing this video, what do laws matter?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    , @iffen
  96. @Ali Choudhury

    The Heathrow ‘flight path’ noise in SW London is nothing. You can be walking in Richmond Park, with very little noise around and a plane flying directly overhead, and still barely hear it.

  97. @LondonBob

    Farage is an egomaniac who has hugely harmed genuine British nationalism. The media have relented from seriously criticising him this election, since they saw he would say nothing about immigration. The only advantage of his success is that once Brexit is out of the way, we might get back to things which actually matter.

    The BP itself has a lot of Furedi’s Trot cultists in anyway.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  98. A fun fact about the now prominent Lib Dems is that the woman who was one of two top competitors to be the next leader (she’s had to step down since) was a half-Arab woman who sent her boyfriend to the hospital because she assaulted him.

  99. notanon says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    My general take is that explicit ethnonationalist signalling is a political dead end with Anglos.

    it’s partly the sheer power of english language media as a controlling force which is diluted outside the anglophone zone but even without that there does seem to be a thing where even if the underlying motivation is selfish it needs to be wrapped up in universalist moral terms somehow – and no one has figured out how to do that.

  100. @Thorfinnsson

    My general take is that explicit ethnonationalist signalling is a political dead end with Anglos

    It won the BNP about 5% of the vote in 2004 and 2009

  101. @German_reader

    It’s not entirely irrelevant though. First, it does matter in propaganda. I already got a normie concede to me that it was a pretty shady thing in itself. Second, the system already has cracks in it. The FPÖ could yet get the interior ministry back sometime in the future, and it might get investigated. Some people involved might get cold feet. The Hungarian secret police under goulash communism was almost entirely illegal, and it started to matter by 1989. There was a huge scandal in December 1989 called Dunagate (Danubegate), when it turned out that they were wiretapping opposition leaders, and the security services collapsed immediately afterwards.

    It could yet become a political issue later on.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor

    It could certainly have propaganda value as you say. Legally though…a video that was made in Spain (imo the purpose-built house suggests that this may be more permissible there) then sold to a German group? What do we know of this firm: is it truly Austrian, or is it one of these shady international outfits registered in Malta (or wherever)? The jurisdictional issues seem complex, to say the least.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  103. Mitleser says:

    No more Embraer

    SAO PAULO (Reuters) – Boeing Co on Thursday said that after taking over Brazilian planemaker Embraer SA’s passenger jet unit, it will call the division Boeing Brasil – Commercial, dropping one of Brazil’s most iconic company names.

    The name change comes after Boeing agreed to pay $4.2 billion to buy 80% of Embraer’s operation making passenger jets with fewer than 150 seats. Embraer will retain a 20% stake. That division is still Embraer’s most profitable and considered a gold standard of Brazilian engineering.

    Boeing has not made a decision yet about whether to rebrand the small and mid-sized planes, which currently carry the Embraer name followed by a model code.

    The new corporate name underscores a realignment of the global aerospace industry in which two dominant manufacturers – Boeing and Airbus SE – strengthened their duopoly in the $150 billion jet market by absorbing weaker challengers.

    After Airbus SE took a controlling stake in the CSeries division of Bombardier Inc, which competes directly with Embraer’s commercial jets, it rebranded the planes Airbus A220, in line with the branding of other Airbus planes.

    The twin takeovers effectively halted the aerospace ambitions of Canada and Brazil and left China as the main threat to the transatlantic duopoly, with Russia and Japan making slower inroads, analysts said.

    The Embraer name holds special meaning in Brazil, evoking its founding in 1969 as a state-run company that grew into a national champion and was privatized in 1994. Embraer is short for Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica or Brazilian Aeronautics Company.

    After the deal with Boeing, Embraer will still exist as a company focused on executive jets and defense. The deal with Boeing has been approved by shareholders but is still waiting on regulatory approval.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-drops-embraer-name-brazil-commercial-jet-division-204931925–finance.html

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  104. LondonBob says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    Or is he the only nationalist who has actually achieved anything meaningful?

    I don’t have much time for ideological purity in politics, it doesn’t lend itself to a manichean worldview. Similarly politicians are always egomaniacs and slippery. Immigration wasn’t the issue in this election and would have been a distraction, he has had plenty to say beforehand.

  105. There are now claims that the Austrian intelligence agency BVT (“Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz und Terrorismusbekämpfung”, Federal agency for the protection of the constitution and counter-terrorism) ordered the production of the Strache video:
    https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Steckt-Geheimdienst-BVT-hinter-Skandal-Video/381770100

    The FPÖ’s Herbert Kickl (the minister of the interior whom Kurz wanted to dismiss, which provoked the breakup of the coalition) also believes that the BVT could be behind the video:
    https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Kickl-ueber-Ibiza-Video-Verbindung-zu-BVT/381763805

    He claims that Kurz’s ÖVP wanted him removed to enable a cover-up.

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @reiner Tor
  106. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    this is how we’re ruled: blackmail and corruption

  107. Brexit will simply replace European immigrants with non-white migration.

    It has already lead to over a hundred thousand more non-whites already and a hundred thousand less Europeans per year.

    Intra-European migration is not a perfect situation but it is better than the alternative.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/24/uk-government-misses-net-migration-target-for-37th-time-in-a-row

  108. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hyperborean

    This is what Farage said he would prefer (albeit with the largely meaningless qualifier that the non-Europeans be from Commonwealth countries). You get what you pay for.

    This whole EU question increasingly seems to be a symbolic and largely meaningless issue. If countries accept large numbers of so-called “refugees” it is because the people or political class (or both) want to do so, not because they are “forced” to do so by the EU. And increased European integration (and homogenization) is probably inevitable, regardless of whether there is a common currency or what the supranational body overseeing the integration calls itself.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  109. BREXIT may be part of the Irish banking conspiracy I’ve realized.

    HARD BREXIT looks increasingly likely, which would end the passporting arrangements that banks in the City of London rely upon to trade Euro contracts as if they were domiciled in the Eurozone. In fact part of the reason for Cameron’s gambit was to renegotiate EU treaties in order to permanently protect the City’s status, which periodically came under attack from Continental scheming (most recently a proposed Tobin tax).

    If the passporting arrangements end, the Euro trading operations will need to relocate to the Eurozone.

    And where will they relocate? Frankfurt you say? Perhaps Paris? Ha ha ha ha ha…

    They’ll relocate to Dublin, further cementing the iron grip the Irish have over global finance.

    What, you thought it was the Jews?

    I’ve got news for you. Three of America’s five largest banks have IRISH CEOs (only one is Jewish, and the other is a Greek). The longest serving President of the Federal Reserve System was also an Irishman. And now the FED is once again under Irish control–as well as Roman control (Powell received a Jesuit education).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
  110. Karlin, you’d be within your rights to make a formal boast about your semi calling the current bitcoin bull run. I remember maybe two months ago you said it was a good time to buy, at $5k. We’re now just shy of $9k.

    Never sell friends. Buy some everytime you get money.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  111. @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Never sell friends. Buy some everytime you get money.

    Why not? Isn’t it better to buy low, sell high and buy low again?

  112. Mr. Hack says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Jesuits, Irishmen…hmmm, sound like the Vatican is somewhere in the woodwork? Mafia…Masons too? Why not finish your story?…

  113. notanon says:

    imo the main benefit from the battle over Brexit is causing cracks in the globalist system making it harder for them to stop other populist movements elsewhere.

    if Britain, France and Germany were all tightly allied and bullying the smaller countries it would be a lot harder for parties like Vlaams and Lega.

  114. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Have any of the Russian posters watched the HBO Chernobyl series? I just read this Twitter thread which was quite effusive in its praise of the show’s authenticity (be forewarned, per his other tweets the author does not like Putin)

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @Spisarevski
  115. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    No wonder Europe is so cucked. You actually cheer for these third world street shitters to come and reside in predominantly white lands. Slowly these filthy, lying, deceitful folks from their hell holes will take “leadership” positions in the west and invite ever more of their compatriots to a land they had NO rule in settling. They’ll either become zionist lickspittles like Nikki Haley or pretentious SJWs like Jaypal/ Sawant et all. Either way the conservative white majority loses.

    They’ve wreaked havoc in the US IT industry (completely destroyed it as a career option for white men) and now want to move into other professions like accounting and finance. Their penchant for ethnic nepotism is as famous as the Chinese and they are almost as ethno centric as them. At least the Chinese have lovely women.

    You must be one of those “high skilled legal” immigrants who vote for nationalism back home and advocate for more “legal skilled” immigration from the third world into the west to add to the already burgeoning illegals. You are a hypocrite and should be called out as such.

    There should be a complete immigration moratorium and and it should start NOW. Cuckservatives like Kushner want to flood the US with more of these scamsters while calling them “skilled” and make sure the white middle class gets destroyed. May be you cheer for President Kushner just as much??.

    If this is called WINNING I’d rather lose. Perhaps the time for putting the 2A to use is fast nearing. I just hope I ain’t too old or dead when it comes

  116. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    When will the Indians and other sub-continentals start leaving the UK for their nationalist homelands back home? I heard India was already becoming a super powah by now, ‘innit??

    On the contrary, these parasites would rather protest any feeeble attempt made by an already cucked Bwitish leadership to protect the white middle class

    https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/highly-skilled-indian-migrants-protest-taxing-uk-immigration-regime/article23751801.ece

    What a shameless bunch!

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  117. Gregory Hood has a good rundown of a big Pew survey on race over at Amren. This graph stuck out to me:

    It gets me thinking how much of this is cultural and how much is biological. Edward Dutton’s book on racial differences in ethnocentrism makes a compelling case that at least some of the lackadaisical ethnocentrism among whites is genetic.

    The question is how much. Even if whites are genetically crippled by a lower sense of ethnocentrism, it can’t be as bad as it is now because otherwise whites wouldn’t have survived through the ages.

    Either way, the US is not exactly on the cusp of a major “awakening” and Trump had no real effect on white racial consciousness.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  118. @Hyperborean

    Brexit will simply replace European immigrants with non-white migration.

    Indeed.


    The non-EU migration is now at levels not seen since the previous peak of 2011. It went down a lot because Indians, Pakis and Bangladeshis were engaged in large-scale visa fraud through various educational fronts, but it is now creeping back up again on looser work visas. Expect more of this.

    Intra-European migration is not a perfect situation but it is better than the alternative.

    My experience is that the 2nd gen completely melts into the White mainstream. A few holdouts will remain but are largely gone by the 3rd gen. The only surviving evidence are funny last names.

    But Brexiteers have swallowed the liberal critique and are openly bragging about increasing non-EU migration. Londonbob and others don’t seem to care much, which I believe is a serious mistake. Ideology is important.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    , @LondonBob
    , @AP
  119. @Anonymous

    a video that was made in Spain (imo the purpose-built house suggests that this may be more permissible there)

    It doesn’t follow. This house was supposedly used by intelligence agencies, but it’s not like anyone can do that. (The intelligence agencies in question were either Spanish or not – if not, then their operation is illegal, unless authorized by the Spanish agencies. If yes, it might still be illegal in Spain. Certainly not legal for private citizens, foreigners, to boot, to use it for their private purposes, like uploading videos of their guests having sex to porn sites.

    then sold to a German group?

    Since the video was illegally made and obtained, and the identity of the buyers and some of the others is well known, it’s possible to start an investigation. These are European Union members, so it’s not like extradition or examination of them is impossible for the Austrian authorities.

    The jurisdictional issues seem complex, to say the least.

    Not so very complex. The victims were Austrian citizens, and Austrian law (some or most of which are probably part of European Union law, like right to privacy) was broken. The Austrians can definitely start an investigation. They can request the German or Spanish authorities to allow them to interrogate the German or Spanish witnesses, or to examine the house. Again, it’s the European Union, it’s not like the suspects and witnesses all live in Tajikistan or Mongolia or North Korea or something.

    However, not only the Austrians can start an investigation. It happened in Spain, and I’m pretty sure Spanish law was broken. So they can investigate, too. Germany might also start investigating, since the video ended up in the hands of German citizens (there’s a possibility that they obtained it illegally), and I’m pretty sure German law was broken.

  120. @German_reader

    That actually sounds pretty likely. I would always have thought the Austrians themselves are the most likely to do something like that against an Austrian politician, but previously some anonymous members of Austrian security services asserted that it must’ve been an intelligence agency (and a foreign one), and I thought they would avoid commenting on the issue if they did it themselves. I mean, initially many people thought it could be some private operation (people even here still find it possible), so why draw attention to the fact that some experts think it must’ve been an intelligence service? (Other than those anonymous Austrians, no one seems to have mentioned this possibility, so probably most people would’ve thought it was some investigative journalist or NGO or whoever who did this.)

    But now that the possibility has been raised, well, yes, they are pretty likely suspects. It’s also a very sad reflection on the state of the West, like the Trump investigation and now this – they’d never dare do this against a mainstream politician, only outsiders like Trump or Strache.

  121. @Thulean Friend

    Londonbob and others don’t seem to care much, which I believe is a serious mistake. Ideology is important.

    Yes. If you want a white (or in this case white British) country, you should talk about wanting a white (or a white British) country. If you talk about something else, which you intend to use as a proxy, you risk ending up with that something else, without getting what you really want. Farage might get Brexit, but with increased nonwhite immigration that’s not a positive accomplishment. Maybe that’s what he wants, but if so, then how’s he any better than the Bremainers?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Dmitry
  122. LondonBob says:
    @Anonymous

    Nonsense, some neocon ‘Conservatives’ said that. Farage just highlighted the contrast between treatment of non EU immigrants as means to blunt ethnic minority hostility to Brexit.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  123. LondonBob says:
    @Thulean Friend

    No they are two entirely separate issues, there is a good reason the people least likely to vote Brexit are ethnic minorities. European immigration has been almost as bad as non European immigration, we can deal with both once Brexit is completed.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48244663/nigel-farage-breaking-point-poster-transformed-politics

    The EU has been a funnel for non European immigration anyway.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  124. Fundamentalist Environmentalism – Space Edition.

    http://theconversation.com/lunar-gold-rush-is-about-to-start-and-we-could-exhaust-the-solar-system-in-fewer-than-500-years-117450

    But is it a good idea? A new study suggests that, to avoid material exhaustion of the solar system, humans ought to limit ourselves to developing just one-eighth of the available resources. As we may be witnessing the start of a new lunar gold rush of sorts, this new proposal may be put to the test sooner than we think – and the moon will serve as an early test bed.

    […]

    In other words, once we reach a point where we have consumed one-eighth of the solar system’s resources, it would take only three doubling times to consume the rest. At a modest rate of 3.5% growth per year in material consumption of space resources, the one-eight point would be reached after 400 years. However, at this point it would take less than 60 years to use up all the remaining resources in the solar system, creating an enormous problem for any future space economy – and leaving very little time to find a solution.

    The paper therefore suggests keeping the remaining seven-eighths of the solar system as a “wilderness”. Such areas would be free for humans to explore, but not exploit.

    Let’s cut off nearly 90% of space resources in our solar system, after all, why ever not?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  125. LondonBob says:
    @Anon

    You know Britain was the main country blocking liberalising intra-company transfers with India during the EU trade negotiations.

    https://theconversation.com/is-brexit-an-opportunity-to-revive-the-eu-india-trade-deal-113780

    https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/britons-ready-to-sacrifice-trade-deals-than-allow-higher-levels-of-immigration-from-indianon-eu-states/article26449136.ece

    Naturally those interest groups pushing immigration aren’t going to allow Brexit to stop them, quite what this has to do with Farage or people who voted Brexit is beyond me. I just don’t think think people understand the debate here and see it through a distorting media lens.

  126. notanon says:
    @reiner Tor

    there’s three teams in the Brexit thing

    1) EU globalists
    2) atlanticist globalists larping as Brexiteers
    3) brexiteers

    the second group are the same as the first group except they want UK to be part of the US empire instead of the EU one.

    some of the odder aspects of Brexit make more sense when you take this into account.

    the most likely outcome (imo) is Brexit happens but then gets hijacked by the second group however in the meantime it prevents unity between France/Britain/Germany which should help elsewhere.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  127. Ray P says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Trump was always seen as a civic nationalist by white -racial advocates. A few thought he might be a Trojan-horse. It turned out he was – for Israel.

  128. LondonBob says:
    @notanon

    Agree with that, but the implosion of the Conservative Party has given group three a real chance of winning this. The post Brexit foreign policy aspect has been the most disappointing, I guess most Brexiteers are like me and favour a sort of Swiss style isolationism but the neocon Atlantacist faction is dominating the media discussion.

  129. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    … laws only matter if there’s someone to enforce them…if there’s no political will to go after those responsible …

    Does Jussie Smollett ring a bell?

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  130. AP says:
    @Thulean Friend

    What is true of Brexiteers and what they have done is also true of those Euroskeptics who want to keep Ukraine out of the EU.

  131. @LondonBob

    I guess most Brexiteers are like me and favour a sort of Swiss style isolationism

    Not those among Tory politicians

  132. @Hyperborean

    No one in space can hear a Green scream.

  133. Dmitry says:
    @Hyperborean

    Social position of low income EU immigrants in UK and Republic of Ireland, is almost like Mexican immigrants in the USA.

    Poles in UK/ROI are usually jobs like waiters, hotel staff, shop cashier, nurses, prostitutes, building houses, cleaning, driving buses, washing cars, etc. Part of their income is then returned to their home country as remittances.

    Political attitudes to low income EU immigrants, will be very similar to American political attitudes to low income (non-elite part of the) Mexican immigration.

    Liberal bourgeoisie and service-oriented business owners can have positive attitudes to low income EU immigrants for intelligent and rational reasons. As a result of this immigration, they can have access to better construction and higher quality services, higher human capital employees – nicer waitresses and better house repairers – for often lower prices than paying native English people workers.

    However, native English workers, have more competition from the immigrants, as well as more diluted access to government amenities and housing, and lose their monopoly over many types of job.

    It is the same as with Americans in relation to Mexican immigrants – political attitudes will reflect this: native working class will be opposed to EU immigration, while liberal bourgeoisie and business owners can be very supporting it.

    I’m not sure which side is correct – on one hand, it seems obvious they should invest in the native workers, so they can raise their level to be competitive, instead of importing immigrant. But on the other hand, it can seem not very realistic to expect native workers can be as motivated as imported workers – and competition of low income EU immigrants itself can be a motivating stimulus to native workers.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  134. @Dmitry

    I’m not sure which side is correct…

    I don’t know, what’s more correct: taking care of extended family or indulging in more extensive greed while replacing the native population? This is indeed a perplexing moral question.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @iffen
  135. notanon says:
    @LondonBob

    the implosion of the Conservative Party has given group three a real chance of winning this

    yes

  136. Dmitry says:
    @reiner Tor

    However, EU’s pan-European identity requirement, is also just incompatible with the precondition of 19th century romantic nationalism, and this view of the state as a self-expression of a unique people, is what still often which motivates people (in countries like Japan) against too much immigration.

    Belief of the 19th century, “small country nationalism”, where states should be divided according to self-determination of unique peoples.

    Whole system of EU, relies on a concept of pan-European identification and dissolving of the importance of different nationalities within Europe.

    Immigration is just one symptom of this, although it’s not only in the free movement of the population between EU countries, but also expressed in the financial subsidies between countries.

    You can also see with the subsidization of one countries’ population, or another countries’ population.

    This is the same as in the USSR – Russian money has subsidized all the Warsaw Pact countries, as well as USSR constituent Republics like Baltic States.

    Psychologically, populations can only be accepting this situation, by thinking of themselves as all being “one people” – and in the USSR there was a concept of family of nations.


    This interstate subsidization policy itself requires an assumption that Europe is some single, supra-nationality, to become psychologically acceptable to most voters.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  137. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    This interstate subsidization policy itself requires an assumption that Europe is some single, supra-nationality, to become psychologically acceptable to most voters.

    In the subsidizing countries (the countries subsidized do not require this ideology, as they are being asked to pay the money for another people, but rather to receive it).

  138. Dmitry says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Polish workers (who are supposed to be good) in UK and ROI, might raise the overall living standard in the countries, for a lot of the native population. So it’s not a simple question to answer – there is also a problem where this kind of immigration has practical benefits, but more subtle and long-term costs (such as costs to a country’s level of cultural capital or distinctiveness).

    Practically, if the same level of worker is not available natively – and assume that salaries will be the same – then the alternative after refusing EU immigrants, would be to invest in higher labour mobility within the native population.

    For example, unemployed coal miners who conflicted with Thatcher, could even become the hotel staff, which Poles are often in UK and ROI. However, this kind of labour mobility, would require large investments in hospitality training, and there might be a limited number of native unemployed and suitable people available before there will some combination of “wage-push inflation” and deterioration of quality of services in the industry (and if you look at .e.g hotel industry, it is counted as largely export industry, so removing Polish workers could make an export sector of the economy less competitive).

    • Replies: @AaronB
  139. @LondonBob

    The EU has been a funnel for non European immigration anyway.

    Are there are any numbers about that? I’ve read claims that entire communities of Somalis have relocated from the Netherlands to Britain, but never seen anything about the scale of the problem.
    East European immigration has obviously been much too high, and also brought some highly problematic groups like gypsies to Britain. Still, the scale of immigration by Poles etc. was also due to political decisions in Britain itself. Germany restricted East European immigration in the years immediately after the accession of the new members in 2004, as did many other EU countries. It was a deliberate decision by Blair’s government not to do that.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  140. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    According to utu, this kind of admirably dispassionate and rational analysis of the situation is one of the foundations of Western civilization.

    I’m inclined to agree with him.

    • Troll: German_reader
    • Replies: @AaronB
  141. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    There is just no pleasing German Reader 🙂

    I thought you would have appreciated my newfound appreciation for dispassionate rational analysis.

    Tough crowd.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  142. Mr. Hack says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thorfy, let me know if you’re being held-up somewhere in South Boston? I still may have some Ukie friends in the neighborhood that might be able to bail you out (ouch, tough neighborhood though!). 🙂

  143. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @LondonBob

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/22/nigel-farage-immigrants-india-australia-better-than-eastern-europeans

    I have to confess I do have a slight preference. I do think, naturally, that people from India and Australia are in some ways more likely to speak English, understand common law and have a connection with this country than some people that come perhaps from countries that haven’t fully recovered from being behind the iron curtain.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @sudden death
  144. I just looked up the stats, the whole area is 44% white British – http://www.ukcensusdata.com/west-hampstead-e05000145#sthash.d6b1vEBU.dpbs – indeed not bad for zone 1/2 London as absurd as that may sound. My own bloc was around 60%, with around 20% being other euros. Apartment building had a good sense of solidarity and we knew our neighbours well. All long-term residents back from when my own parents lived there.

    Not a declining area no – that was a tongue in cheek reference to you moving there. In my own experience, it’s on the up yes. Plenty of yuppie bakeries, butchers, wine bars as well as older/scruffier eating places. It does lack a good selection of pubs due to strong family element, though the Black Lion is as good as any during the summer. I also don’t think location is bad – 20 mins to central by tube. All in all, one can live a nice life there – I’ve since moved out of London altogether but am sometimes tempted to return. If you can find a good digs in certain suburbs like Richmond, life is as good as it gets once you’ve passed 21; gorgeous but cosy architecture, excellent pubs/restaurants, pushy mothers who the local council dare not upset with things like slow rubbish collection, parks/lakes and surprising amounts of local culture/arts.

    But then I stumble across some shithole and realise I don’t want my future children thinking it’s normal to have fat waddling Somali matriarchs take your seat on the underground 😄

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  145. LondonBob says:
    @German_reader

    There might be information on this but I have enough anecdotal experience to know it is a phenomenon.

    Yes Blair was utterly catastrophic, prior to Blair immigration had been pretty much closed down by Thatcher for almost twenty years.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Kent Nationalist
  146. https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/iisc-team-provides-video-evidence-of-superconductivity-at-room-temperature/article27271786.ece

    Yuge.

    A material is said to be a superconductor when it conducts electricity with zero resistance to the flow of electrons. Though superconductors will help build very high efficient devices leading to huge energy savings, it has not been possible to exploit it for everyday use. This is because scientists have been able to achieve superconductivity only at temperatures far below 0°C.

  147. I just looked at Trump’s twitter account:

    [MORE]

    Interesting priorities.

  148. Beckow says:
    @LondonBob

    …favour a sort of Swiss style isolationism

    Swiss style is a globalist style. Switzerland is already about 20% Third World – not being formally in EU makes little difference.

    The only decision for Britain is about whether they prefer to remain a white European country – inside EU or outside. London is no longer a European city, neither is Birmingham and most other larger cities. It could already be mathematically too late, or it will be in 10 years. Go to Heathrow and see the incoming South Asians – large families – being checked into UK by also mostly South Asian officials.

    If Brexit would allow Britain to control its Third World tsunami, then it is good. If it doesn’t – or even in a weird way makes it worse with fewer Poles, but more Pakistanis – then it is a pointless distraction. South Asian Britain is of little interest to Europe. Actually, the risk for us (in V4) is that the endless ‘British’ Third Worlders start using their British status to migrate to our still-white-European countries. At that point we might want Britain to leave. We have never signed up for being a part of the misguided British post-colonial Raj. This intra-EU confrontation is coming: Western Europe sold us a bill of goods, and then switched to something else.

  149. @Anonymous

    Farage here was obviously obfuscating the main issue – probably nobody in their sane mind is giving shit about harmless and desirable Canadian, New Zealandian, Australian or even Indian immigration into UK but zero words from him about the real problems such as Pakistanian immigration which is absolutely incompatible with UK values such as common law, constitutionalism etc? If he and other British nationalists really think that european easterners are less compatible with UK than Pakistanis they are truly obviously insanely and irreparably cucked to the very core.

    • Replies: @notanon
  150. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    I predicted that Trump might do a bit of political judo and use his support of criminal-justice reform against a Democratic opponent (I thought it would be Kamala Harris). It won’t win him any votes but it’s funny in an ironic way. The Israel stuff–putting aside any actual solidarity Trump might feel with them–is simply a way to troll the left, especially Ilhan Omar, and goad them into making more provocative statements that might alienate Jewish voters in Florida. If I were advising Trump I would be supporting that line of attack 100%.

    The wall is a dead letter; Congress refuses to cooperate and the courts have blocked him at every turn (leading Ann Coulter to make the galaxy-brain proposal that Trump should simply ignore the courts). Trump lost on that issue, badly. And that applies to almost any serious attempt at immigration reform: he can’t get it through Congress and he can’t get it through the courts. He is powerless in the face of political gridlock, just as Obama was.

  151. @German_reader

    Is Biden such a real threat to Trump reelection that he gets his attention so early, not even having yet won Democrat nomination?

  152. @Beckow

    Switzerland is already about 20% Third World

    Is that true? I know Switzerland has a very high foreign-born population, but I always thought many of them were from the Balkans or other Europeans (though Switzerland also does have serious problems with certain groups of “refugees”…Eritreans seem to be prominent).
    Longterm its feature is bleak of course, like with all of Western Europe.
    Found this on Twitter…from Ireland of all places:

    • Replies: @Beckow
  153. @Beckow

    Switzerland is already about 20% Third World

    Is that true? I know Switzerland has a very high foreign-born population, but I always thought many of them were from the Balkans or other Europeans (though Switzerland also does have serious problems with certain groups of “refugees”…Eritreans seem to be prominent).
    Longterm its feature is bleak of course, like with all of Western Europe.
    Found this on Twitter…from Ireland of all places:

  154. Beckow says:
    @German_reader

    As with all Western European countries, the numbers of actual resident Third World migrants are hard to know because they are manipulated. E.g. naturalised migrants are suddenly ‘Swiss’, people living in the country permanently are often not counted because of their illegal or visa-overstay or ‘student’ status. But officially in 2012, 35% of Swiss had ‘immigrant’ background.

    You are right that many were from the Balkans, esp. Albanians from Kosovo – a Third World population by almost any standard. 20% is close enough – in big cities like Zurich, Geneva, Basel it seems about 1/3. Among younger people it is a lot more – many urban schools in Swiss cities are 50-75% migrants.

    There are older white people living in remote areas – same is true in England or Ireland. But if the metropolitan areas are taken over by recent arrivals from the Third World, if schools are heavily multi-ethnic, the culture is non-European – all else will follow in due course. My point is that being outside of EU is not a panacea – Britain needs to decide what kind of a country or civilization they want to be (or remain), and act accordingly. Leaving EU and becoming Bangladesh West would be a sad ending.

  155. Dmitry says:
    @LondonBob

    Thatcher perhaps made errors with Falklands crisis, where many British ships were lost. But overall it seems like she was good in most areas, so I’m not sure why she is so unpopular on websites like this (I know this is a crazy website – so views are not representative – but her policy was even good in relation to immigration)

    Some illiterates are claiming “neoliberalism” supports open borders immigration policy. But in real life, all the neoliberal leaders (Pinochet, Thatcher – or today, Malcolm Turnbull, or Orban, Netanyahu, if these are the few still existing neoliberal leaders), are against open borders immigration policy, except with Fujimori where this was not part of the policy package.

    And exception of one neoliberal leader not enacting more restrictive immigration policy, is only Fujimori in Peru, probably because nobody wanted to immigrate to Peru before the Fujishock.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  156. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    This Tweet from Trump, is an action of Trump to help save Netanyahu from another election. Israel have asked Trump to pressure Lieberman to join the government.

    Israel had an election only a few weeks ago. But they cannot form a government, because Lieberman refuses to join. If Lieberman does not join the government (within 24 hours) before Wednesday night, they have to repeat an election because the politicians cannot agree to create a coalition government.

    Repeating the election – will cost hundreds of millions of taxpayer money and paralyze their government until September.

    Lieberman is refusing to join the government, because the government are otherwise compromising with the religious Jews.

    Soviet immigrants are the forefront trying to fight against religious coercion in Israel. On the other hand, the costs of this stubborn position (repeating an election) are clearly idiotically high.

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  157. @Dmitry

    A lot of people blame the demise of British heavy industry on Thatcher. This includes people who are not socialists and otherwise approved of Thatcher’s privatization and union-busting. At the same time that Britain’s industries were being privatized Sterling soared in value (owing to North Sea oil as well as her monetary policies), making their products less competitive.

    On the immigration front Thatcher skillfully used rhetoric to drain support from the National Front while annual inflow was around 50,000 per year. This is better than post-Blair Britain, but hardly what Enoch Powell had in mind.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  158. @Dmitry

    I don’t care about Israel’s domestic politics. And I don’t see why the US president should. Or why he should do this idiotic “Look how pro-black I am, I’m releasing lots of black criminals” pandering.
    Trump for some perverse reason seems to care least about people who actually voted for him.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @iffen
    , @notanon
  159. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    indulging in more extensive greed

    Greed is a universal, cosmic “bad thing,” but you know that.

    • Replies: @notanon
  160. Dmitry says:
    @Pumblechook

    If I remember, it is a mix of different nationalities, but it is definitely a lot more white people than brown people?

    Not a declining area no – that was a tongue in cheek reference to you moving there.

    Lol ok. Well, I won’t move to London anyway, so you can have no fear.

    Yes. In terms of aesthetics, atmosphere and architecture, I think it is rather around upper-middle ranking for London.

    I thought I saw quite a lot of young people there, as well. Some of the more expensive areas in London, have less young people in the evening.

    Plenty of yuppie bakeries, butchers, wine bars as well as older/scruffier eating places. It does lack a good selection of pubs due to strong family element, though the Black Lion is as good as any during the summer. I also don’t think location is bad – 20 mins to central by tube. All in all, one can live a nice life there

    Yes it’s mainly a middle class area, and its architecture is just an atmosphere of the Victorian epoch, with this cool red brick buildings everywhere.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@51.550853,-0.191423,3a,75y,164.86h,101.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbTTzTacxk2NP1XrQI5agAQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    But then I stumble across some shithole and realise I don’t want my future children thinking it’s normal to have fat waddling Somali matriarchs take your seat on the underground 😄

    Number of Muslim mothers, with hijabs (scarfs) in the UK, is really a culture shock.

    Still, I don’t have a completely pessimistic feeling UK is “going down” like France.

  161. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Lol someone has “woke on the wrong side of the bed”.

  162. Beckow says:

    …“neoliberalism” supports open borders immigration policy.

    We get caught up in terminology. There is no such thing as ‘neoliberalism‘, or other terms we have invented to avoid calling things by their original names. Neoliberalism is simply capitalism – that’s what capitalism is. (I also find the term ‘financial capitalism‘ strange given that the words capital and finance are largely interchangeable.)

    What we have are politicians who like and promote capitalism, from Thatcher to Orban. Capitalism has its positives, but it also comes – inevitably – with open labor markets meaning sooner or later open borders, massive polarisation of incomes and wealth, obsessive push for more productivity defined as people working harder for less, and a gradual monetization of everything. That is capitalism, good, bad and ugly. There is a reason our great grandparents wanted to change it, soften it, introduced social restrictions – capitalism didn’t work all that well first time around either.

    As long as we pretend that we have a ‘new world‘ – and using new terms makes it look like it is indeed a ‘new world‘, we will run in circles like chickens with their heads cut off. What we have is capitalism, this is the way it looks like – it was appealing enough after a few generations of ‘socialisms’ of different kinds to go back to. When Western elites decided to reintroduce capitalism with a vengeance they needed to destroy the power of labor – with open borders, some technology, lack of alternatives and a lot of forgetting they succeeded. Now we have it in its full metastizing glory, this time we might not escape. This could be it – a global man-eats-dog hyper-competitive overcrowded world with most people too confused or self-serving to resist the way their ancestors did.

    Things move faster now – better, faster technology. But people are more stupid if one defines stupidity as behaviour that has no long-term chance to succeed. In other words, have one own’s children that can keep it going. It is not smart to know how to ‘work harder’ if that work serves no real purpose, or simply helps someone else to accumulate assets. Evolution punishes stupidity, and that’s where we are – too busy to slow down to think.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @notanon
  163. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    You are a learned person, but you know squat about politics in the US. Or, if you do know, you are being disingenuous.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  164. Pharmakon says:
    @German_reader

    Beckow is, in all likelihood, correct – if not with the exact numbers, then certainly with the prevailing trends.

    In 2017 I traveled extensively all-over Switzerland and I was surprised to discover that their large urban areas have been flooded with Middle-Easterners, South-Asians and, best of all, Africans. Specifically, Zürich, Basel, Bern, Lausanne and Geneva felt like aspiring multicultural paradises such as Berlin, Frankfurt, Milan or Genoa.

    One could tell that Middle-Easterners and South Asians were, at least, economically active (small-shop owners, car dealers, etc.) while the Africans projected that very typical aura which combines, both, a great sense of entitlement and complete uselessness. They were walking around town like they owned it. Good for them.

    Border control cannot save you from Africa since this has never been a question of border control (or border enforcement) but a question of “charitable” ideologies. While I could understand the capitalist logic of depressing the native labor by importing cheap substitutes, this same logic holds no explanatory power with regards to recreating Africa on European soil. So it seems pretty clear that the Swiss elites have fallen for the same suicidal ideology as the rest of the collective West.

  165. notanon says:
    @Beckow

    Actually, the risk for us (in V4) is that the endless ‘British’ Third Worlders start using their British status to migrate to our still-white-European countries.

    this is very important – with free movement it only takes one of the constituent countries to betray the whole continent.

  166. Dmitry says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    A possible criticism of Thatcher, is that it seems like some serious errors in the Falklands crisis, although I’m not sure how much responsibility would be for Thatcher (perhaps not her responsibility at all, except in the largest way that she said yes to this war, and war which was a success overall).

    Although the UK has successfully won this war – including achievements like the longest distance bombing attack in history – British Navy has lost a significant number of ships (“2 destroyers, 2 frigates, 2 landing ships and 1 container ships”).

    Have you seen the video of the attack on the British landing ship by the Argentina air force, while they were unprotected waiting to go to the beach?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  167. @iffen

    but you know squat about politics in the US

    Maybe, not really any of my business after all. And it’s of course true that pro-Israel sentiment is popular among many of Trump’s supporters. But do you really want to tell me that anybody voted for him because of “criminal justice reform” (instead of all his promises about infrastructure programmes and immigration restriction, none of which has happened)?
    Tweeting such things as “1994 was a dark period in American history”…lol. The man is quite simply an utter and irredeemable moron.

  168. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beckow

    The term “neoliberal” encompasses not just open-borders ideology but also symbolic social issues (gay marriage, trans rights) as well as more traditionally “liberal” positions such as drug decriminalization. I fail to see having a bunch of pot-smoking gay-married workers helps capitalists (in the case of liberalization of drugs laws it would harm capitalists more than it would help them). Atomization isn’t necessarily a road to consumerism: there’s a lot of consternation in US industry about how millennials aren’t buying houses or cars and are cancelling their cable TV subscriptions. Families are much better consumers than legions of lonely single men who mostly consume porn and video games.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  169. notanon says:
    @sudden death

    it’s the only way to get around the power of the BBC

    but

    you’re right, being forced to say stuff like this to survive politically constantly reinforces the BBC’s imposed moral frame so is ultimately self-defeating.

    if UK had a PR system parties could be more honest and still get a tiny foothold they can grow from but in the UK they can’t – they have to grovel to the BBC.

  170. @Dmitry

    In light of the fact that the HMS Ark Royal (a real aircraft carrier with an angled flight deck and F-4 Phantom fighters) left service before Thatcher came to power, it’s hard to blame her for any of the losses during the war. I understand that the UK’s own vacillating stance on the Falklands may have encouraged the Argies to attack in the first place, though in fairness to Britain they could hardly have expected them to do something so ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  171. @German_reader

    His embrace of “criminal justice reform” is especially amusing in light of his own demonstrable past support for extensive capital punishment. Actually only a few months ago, shortly after signing Jarvanka’s plan to release a lot of incarcerated drug dealers, Trump suggested heroin dealers be executed Duterte-style.

    I don’t have any problem with encouraging fissures within the Democrats’ absurd coalition or calling attention to their constantly changing views and how these contradict their previous positions.

    Naturally I do have a problem when this leaves the realm of propaganda and enters the reality of policy.

    I can’t bring myself to dislike Trump and can point to positive things, but the inescapable conclusion is that his Presidency is a failure if judged by what he campaigned on.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  172. Okechukwu says:

    Is Biden such a real threat to Trump reelection that he gets his attention so early, not even having yet won Democrat nomination?

    Biden is a huge threat to Trump. Hillary was a singularly terrible candidate, yet Trump barely eked out a victory over her. The rust belt will decide the presidency and Biden should be much stronger than Hillary there. Keeping in mind that Hillary, despite her weaknesses, barely lost PA and MI. In fact remove Green party candidate Jill Stein from those ballots and Hillary would’ve won both states. Libertarian Gary Johnson probably took as many votes from Trump as he did from Hillary so I don’t know what effect his absence from the ballots would’ve been.

    There are certain states that are hard blue or hard red. California (blue) and Texas (red), for example. The respective candidates don’t even have to campaign or spend money in those states because nothing is going to flip them. In comparison, the rust belt states are swing states, meaning they could go either way. To become president all Biden has to do is turn PA (his home state) and OH blue. That will give him 270 electoral votes to Trump’s 268. That is assuming that Trump hangs on to FL, another swing state that could go either way. There is actually a credible scenario under which Biden trounces Trump in a landslide by re-taking all the states Obama won in 2008 and 2012 that Hillary failed to hang on to: OH, IN, PA, FL, IA, MI, WI, NC.

    Literally, all Biden has to do to beat Trump is get the same percentage of the white working class vote that Obama got and Hillary failed to get. That shouldn’t be a Herculean task for an actual white guy, presuming they’re not as moribund or as lazy or as unable to speak publicly or as bereft of a campaign theme as Hillary was. Biden has roots in the rust belt and, frankly, there is a great deal of Trump fatigue nationwide. People are tired of the unpresidential and unprofessional behavior, and they’re tired of the constant drama.

    At this point, almost every Dem in the field can turn those states blue. But voters see Biden as more of sure thing — a known quantity who can beat Trump. That is why he is up by more than double digits in all the polling.

  173. @Thorfinnsson

    The problem imo is, when you’re writing something like “1994 was a dark period in American history”, you’re basically validating the progressive view of American history as completely bad.
    If even as recently as 1994 (! not 1904 or some other similarly remote date, when there were actual lynchings) was a “dark period” of racial oppression, when exactly was America ever really great? And how is this different from the view that the American past was all about racism and that white America has to atone for that?
    Trump through his own stupidity is basically reinforcing the racial grievance framing, instead of shifting it.
    Personally I care rather more about his diastrous foreign policy, but if I were American and had voted for him, that kind of nonsense would bother me.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @Okechukwu
  174. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    things as “1994 was a dark period in American history”…lol. The man is quite simply an utter and irredeemable moron.

    It’s not very complicated to understand. He wants to depress African American voting enthusiasm for Biden.

    Maybe he could attempt this in a way more sophisticated, but objective is rational – as a strategy for winning the 2020 election – and more objective way for us to see whether he is a moron will be his results in the election of next year.

    “criminal justice reform” (instead of all his promises about infrastructure programmes and immigration restriction

    Topic of African Americans and cynical politics aside, there must be something very wrong in the criminal justice system of the “land of liberty”. Reform of this system is at least necessary so that the image of America as a country of freedom does not become a complete joke.

    And it’s of course true that pro-Israel sentiment is popular among many of Trump’s supporters.

    As I explained already if you will read it, this is in response to requests by Israel, to pressure Lieberman to join the Israeli government.

    Lieberman avoid joining the government – because he refuses to compromise with religious politicians. In less than 24 hours, if Lieberman does not compromise, Israel will have to repeat its election and have no government until September.

    Trump is presenting a peace-plan for the Middle East, and this will be one of his main “foreign policy achievements” in the 2020 election. This “peace-plan” will require there to be an Israeli government formed, for it to engage with the plan.

    Trump’s peace-plan for the Middle East, is all supposed to be presented this year, so that he can use it in the 2020 election.

    In addition, for Trump’s 2020 election, he will use his re-establishment of US-Israel alliance, as part of the propaganda in his election, to motivate his base of supporters (who are very pro-Israel and were anti-Obama). This plan for marketing in the 2020 election, would depend on Netanyahu. (If another government forms in Israel without Netanyahu, then of course the plan could fail, as the new Israeli government might avoid any public statements or showing of support for Trump).

  175. Beckow says:
    @Anonymous

    …“neoliberal” encompasses not just open-borders ideology but also symbolic social issues

    I would call those simply ‘liberal’. If we want a qualifier, how about liberal capitalism?

    …I fail to see having a bunch of pot-smoking gay-married workers helps capitalists

    It doesn’t in the long run – but it is built into the system, they get little choice. People are not individualistic heroes actively forming society’s destiny – people, including capitalists and liberals, simply act within the constraints of the realities around them. There is no master plan – we simply get consequences of myriad individual decisions, all made in conformance with the rules of the system.

    Capitalism wants ever cheaper labor – having atomised single individuals competing with everybody around the world advances that inner dynamic of capitalism. Families might be better consumers and overall better in the long run – but they are also in the short-run more expensive, so the pressure to limit them is inexorable. All act within the system, our personal preferences are almost irrelevant. Trying to go against the logic of capitalism (or liberal capitalism) is like swimming upstream – eventually you give up.

  176. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    Trump for some perverse reason seems to care least about people who actually voted for him.

    he’s been compromised
    – back tracking on all his campaign promises
    – media starting to go easier on him
    – corporate donor funding that switched to Clinton in 2016 coming back

    they got him.

    like Strache, this is how we’re ruled.

  177. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    not really any of my business after all.

    It’s not a question of whether it’s your business or not. It is a question of a basic understanding of where the election of Trump fits into American politics.

    FWIW, many of us believe that it is stupid to lock up people for extended periods of time for drug possession. It would be best to execute anyone found in possession of illegal drugs, but that is not an option.

  178. notanon says:
    @iffen

    greed may be universal but the degree of restraint varies significantly.

  179. Okechukwu says:
    @German_reader

    Longterm its feature is bleak of course, like with all of Western Europe.

    How did this racial superiority shtick work out for you under Hitler?

    • Replies: @German_reader
  180. @Dmitry

    Trump is presenting a peace-plan for the Middle East

    That “peace plan” will be a total sham anyway and will be rejected by the Palestinians. And it’s not even clear that Netanyahu is genuinely interested in it, since he probably would prefer continuing with his current policy of creeping annexations.
    Why anybody outside of Israel should care about Israel’s difficulties in forming a government is beyond me…maybe Israelis should reform their political system and reduce the influence of fringe parties, if they’re that bothered by potential costs of repeating elections.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  181. @Okechukwu

    How did this racial superiority shtick work out for you under Hitler?

    Because starting a war against the entire world is just the same as not wanting to give your country away to Africans.
    Are you really that stupid?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  182. Okechukwu says:
    @Dmitry

    It’s not very complicated to understand. He wants to depress African American voting enthusiasm for Biden.

    Indeed. Trump is trying to derail Biden in the Democratic primaries because that’s the candidate he fears the most. I don’t know how effective this crime bill thing is going to be, however. Black voters will simply hold their noses and vote for Biden. They want to get rid of Trump and see Biden as their best hope.

  183. @German_reader

    The problem imo is, when you’re writing something like “1994 was a dark period in American history”, you’re basically validating the progressive view of American history as completely bad.
    If even as recently as 1994 (! not 1904 or some other similarly remote date, when there were actual lynchings) was a “dark period” of racial oppression, when exactly was America ever really great? And how is this different from the view that the American past was all about racism and that white America has to atone for that?
    Trump through his own stupidity is basically reinforcing the racial grievance framing, instead of shifting it.

    In Trump’s own shoes I would be releasing reams of meticulously gathered federal data about race which undermines the official narrative, ending affirmative action where the federal government has the power to do so, boosting our media, etc.

    That said, I do none the less see tactical value in encouraging Democratic infighting regarding their past positions. You can be sure that Biden (who is the strongest Democratic candidate) will be set upon by his primary opponents for being insufficiently “progressive” in the past (or even last week).

    No doubt one could however do so without endorsing the “progressive” narrative. Simply asking the question for instance, sharing past video clips, and so forth.

    But I’m not going to beat up an officeholder for not being one of us, for the same reason I don’t resent ordinary people for not being dissidents.

    Personally I care rather more about his diastrous foreign policy, but if I were American and had voted for him, that kind of nonsense would bother me.

    I have less of a problem here. I will be voting for Tulsi Gabbard in the Democratic primary, but thus far Trump has yet to launch any new wars. By this time in his Presidency Obama had joined France and Britain in their dubious Libyan adventure (notably this was on the advice of Hil-dawg, while Diamond Joe Biden counseled against it).

    There has been some progress on North Korea, and the Iran thing may now be cooling down: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/27/donald-trump-welcomes-japans-offer-of-mediation-with-iran

    Of course his style of dramatically escalating tension before cooling matters off can be alarming, especially if he ever does unleash the ghouls Pompeo and Bolton.

    The real problem with Trump is that he’s been totally useless on immigration. The situation in Europe actually looks a lot better than here now. Illegal immigration has been substantially reduced in Europe, whereas in America the problem is now worse than it has ever been.

  184. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    But do you really want to tell me that anybody voted for him because of “criminal justice reform”

    no but “dems are the real racists” is a standard GOPe talking point.

    it doesn’t work of course because it reinforces the moral frame of their opponents that “racism” (aka disparate outcomes) is the only sin.

    it’s designed that way cos GOPe wants open borders for cheap labor and therefore the people crafting GOPe’s memes *want* to reinforce the racism uber alles frame.

    campaign Trump was the opposite, always talking outside the frame to get the media riled up and talking about him but the swamp got Trump with Mueller and now everything he says is just standard GOPe.

  185. Okechukwu says:
    @German_reader

    The problem imo is, when you’re writing something like “1994 was a dark period in American history”, you’re basically validating the progressive view of American history as completely bad.

    What are you blabbering about? Everybody agrees that the crime bill was a bad idea that has had devastating consequences for the country. Detractors include conservatives, who love their country. It’s not necessarily a liberal thing.

    Should we really be sending people to prison for decades for stealing a candy bar? Or devastate entire neighborhoods and entire generations by criminalizing drug activity in a racially discriminatory fashion?

    It’s our country, not yours. So shut the fuck up.

  186. Pericles says:
    @German_reader

    Ireland seems to be lost, refugee mania, abortion mania, gay half-Indian prime minister … Globohomo steamrollered them pretty easily. So welcome into the fold, Irishmen. Perhaps you’d like a few ten thousands more vigorous young arabs and negroes to liven things up?

  187. @LondonBob

    immigration had been pretty much closed down by Thatcher for almost twenty years

    It was closed down by Callaghan not Thatcher, she just maintained the policy. If anything, it began to pick up before Blair (obviously nothing like as bad) during the end of that Tory government.

  188. @Thorfinnsson

    The criticism (I don’t know how fair) is that she insisted on the taskforce being assembled in too short a space of time.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  189. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Why anybody outside of Israel should care about Israel’s difficulties in forming a government is beyond me

    1. Trump needs there to be an Israeli government, for a Middle East peace-plan proposal next month, which he will use as one of his foreign policy “achievements” to present in 2020 election. If Lieberman does not join, then there will be no government until elections in September. So actually Israel won’t form a government until around December 2019.

    2. Trump needs Netanyahu not to lose his position, for the 2020 election marketing campaign that Trump has re-established US-Israel alliance. Netanyahu is already publicly supporting Trump and Republicans, so he can’t suddenly become bipartisan in 2020.

    Netanyahu’s position is also threatened by police investigations into corruption. So if Lieberman does not join the government, the risk increases that a government will form without Netanyahu, or a government will form which does not give immunity to Netanyahu (so there is increased possibility he won’t be there in November 2020, so part of Trump’s marketing will be unavailable).

    By the way, remember both Trump and Putin campaigned for Netanyahu to win the election (if only for visual reasons), so they both will be like people who wasted resources on him if a government doesn’t form. Trump recognized Israel as owner of Golan Heights especially for Netanyahu’s re-election, and Putin found the body of an Israeli soldier from 1970s was in Syria and presented it with Netanyahu in a special ceremony to boost his votes a few days before the election (in Israel, there is a national religion about finding dead bodies of soldiers- this was a calculated plan to boost Netanyahu’s election votes).

    • Replies: @German_reader
  190. @Dmitry

    or a Middle East peace-plan proposal next month, which will be one of his foreign policy achievements to present in 2020 election.

    I’ve already told you in my previous comment that this “peace plan” will come to nothing, the Palestinians will reject it, with good reason. So there will be no “foreign policy achievement” to campaign on.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @notanon
  191. notanon says:

    It’s not very complicated to understand. He wants to depress African American voting enthusiasm for Biden.

    i’m sure a lot of people inside GOPe believe this but i don’t cos their pollsters must know it never works.

    i think the real reason is GOPe’s softest demographic are part-liberal GOP leaning soccer moms who the media bully by constantly accusing GOP voters of “racism.”

    (apart from anything else the kind of black people most inclined to vote GOP will be the most anti-crime)

    i could see the old Trump using Biden’s past decisions to try and stir division among the Dems with a few spicy tweets – a very good tactic – but actually letting out huge numbers of extremely violent criminals is insane and not even GOPe tier stupid – it’s Javanka tier neoGOPe stupid which will get huge numbers of innocent people hurt.

    (they’re in jail for possession cos it’s hard to get convictions of violent gangstas for violent crimes in the context of “snitches get stitches”)

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  192. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Yes I can read, but your comment did not make sense.

    Trump will want his peace-plan to be between all Arab governments and Israel. (Currently, only Egypt and Jordan have peace with Israel, so there is potential for other Arab governments and Israel to end their formal war and boycott). In addition, the plan will surely be designed in a way which simply tries to open negotiations,.

    So what we will see is – if Trump is successful – is that they have “restarted negotiations” between Israel and Arab leaders “towards peace”, and various leaders will be meeting for talks during 2020.

    This will be like what’s happening with North Korea and USA now.

    In 2020 election, if the negotiations are able to begin, Trump will use the marketing as an important part of his foreign policy achievement.

    In some way it’s preferable if negotiations are simply opening at this stage – as with North Korea, America have not yet given to its demands, but the present stage can be used for marketing, saying it is showing some kind of movement “towards peace” which voters like.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  193. @Kent Nationalist

    With the benefit of hindsight, this appears unwise as it turned out the Argies couldn’t be arsed to reinforce, fortify, or even dig-in. So a more leisurely pace of assembly would’ve allowed for a more robust taskforce and thus lower losses.

    But since a minimally competent opponent would be expected to do those things, speed was of the utmost importance.

    You could also criticize Thatcher for not getting a peace treaty with the Argies that acknowledge British sovereignty. After retaking the Falklands Britain could’ve threatened to bomb Buenos Aires, mine the River Plate, sink or seize Argentine merchant shipping around the world, drag Chile into the war, etc.

    But such maximalist objectives are also risky.

  194. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    the peace plan is for a similar reason as the crime thing – it’s to shore up the softer end of their vote.

  195. @Dmitry

    In 2020 election, if the negotiations are able to begin, it will be an important part of his foreign policy achievements.

    What are you even talking about, there will be no “negotiations”. Trump’s administration has given up any pretense of being an honest mediator, this entire business is about either imposing some diktat on the Palestinians or depicting them as unreasonable intransigents, if they refuse (which they most likely will).
    This surely will play well with the pro-Israel crowd in the US, but nobody else will be positively impressed. Most people simply won’t care.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  196. Dmitry says:
    @notanon

    Bill Clinton was very popular with blacks. Then Obama was even more popular.

    However, with Hillary Clinton, there was no voting enthusiasm of blacks, and this could be a reason was not able to win in some important areas.

    So Trump should try to push Biden more to the Hillary Clinton lack of popularity with blacks, and hope he does not have a Bill Clinton/Obama popularity with this demographic.

    i think the real reason is GOPe’s softest demographic are part-liberal GOP leaning soccer moms who the media bully by constantly accusing GOP voters of “racism.”

    Yes, surely a large proportion of the Republican voters will be “anti-racists” in their self-view.

    This is why Hillary Clinton has tried to depress their enthusiasm for Trump, by calling them deplorable people.

    When Trump is friends with Kanye and Kardashian, it is boosting his popularity partly for this reason (blacks might not vote for him, but can increases enthusiasm of his anti-racist Republican supporters).

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Okechukwu
  197. notanon says:
    @Dmitry

    Topic of African Americans and cynical politics aside, there must be something very wrong in the criminal justice system of the “land of liberty”.

    the elites imported millions of young men from poorer, more crime prone countries to work as cheap labor (which at the same time pushed a lot of the black population out of the labor force and into dealing drugs).

    same thing is happening in Europe now with the prisons bursting at the seams and the police told to ignore as much crime as possible.

  198. notanon says:
    @Dmitry

    blacks might not vote for him, but can increases enthusiasm of his anti-racist Republican supporters

    exactly

  199. notanon says:
    @Beckow

    There is no such thing as ‘neoliberalism‘, or other terms we have invented to avoid calling things by their original names. Neoliberalism is simply capitalism – that’s what capitalism is.

    i think you’re missing a step.

    after the Russian revolution the paleo form of capitalism (in the West) got scared and gradually morphed into the mixed economy social-democratic form of restrained capitalism we had up until the 1980s (ish) – less efficient maybe but at least intended to be more cohesive.

    then after the Soviet Union collapsed they went back to the old form red in tooth and claw and this is where we are now.

    so yeah it’s not really neo in a 200 year time frame but it’s neo in a post-war time frame imo.

    (there’s also the changes in technology which allows globalist capitalism to exist whereas in the recent past capitalism was mostly constrained to national capitalism by tech limitations.)

    • Replies: @Beckow
  200. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Negotiations will be between Israel and all Arab governments. Of course, there will occur negotiations and meetings between these governments, and of course Trump will market it in his re-election, as his foreign policy.

    Israel will surely not make a peace agreement with another Arab government before 2020, but Arabs and Israel will try to at least pretend there is movement in this direction – with Netanyahu, there will be a strong motive to impress or help Trump before 2020 re-election by attending these negotiations.

    With Israel’s current politics (unlike in the 1990s), Israel are probably not completely gullible idiots like they were in the past, and will not sign agreements like Oslo Accords (which established PLO, which was previously in Libya, as leaders of the West Bank and Gaza). But they might this as an opportunity to try to improve relations with other Arab governments which are supposed to be at war.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  201. @Dmitry

    Negotiations will be between Israel and all Arab governments.

    One gets the impression that the Palestinians don’t exist in your analysis, they have no reason to go along with this charade and would be stupid to do so.
    Anyway, if Trump has no greater achievement than fake “peace” negotiations in the Mideast, it just shows what a failure his presidency is.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  202. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Arab governments view Palestinian as precondition for peace with Israel, but there will be likely distinction between their public and private view (where Palestinians are more important for a public view than a private view).

    Palestinians are ruled by PA in West Bank, and Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza.

    Gaza – so 1/3 of the Palestinians – are not part of any negotiations, as they are ruled by Hamas (who won in an election in 2006 and then killed the PA members in Gaza, who were supposed to rule Gaza)* and Islamic Jihad, and Israel does not recognize these, or vice versa. Egypt just negotiates stops of fire between them and Israel every year.

    PA (which is West Bank) is dependent on Arab governments which finance them, and its leadership is really appointed. There have been no elections in PA since 2006.

    PA leaders will just benefit from keeping a status quo – the main worry is Hamas rebellion in West Bank (if there is an election then Hamas would win).

    “Low hanging fruit” for Israel-Arab peace negotiation, will be if a peace, or some “normalisation”, will be developed between Israel and some more liberal Arab states like Oman. If I was Trump or Putin, I would focus on these easier peace negotiations first.


    *
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)

    • Replies: @German_reader
  203. Okechukwu says:
    @German_reader

    Because starting a war against the entire world is just the same as not wanting to give your country away to Africans.

    It is the same when your appeal is based on the same Nazi racial superiority ideology that almost got your entire country wiped from the map and was a source of death and suffering for millions of Germans.

    Btw, Germany is one of the least diverse countries in the world. In most parts of Germany, you will rarely if ever see a non-white person.

    Are you really that stupid?

    A stupid person is someone like you who doesn’t learn from history. Everyone knows you Germans are very susceptible to being manipulated into a frenzy of hate by any tinpot demagogue dictator that might come along. If that happens again, I think this time Germany will be permanently divided into numerous permanently and harshly occupied zones.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  204. @Dmitry

    “Low hanging fruit” for Israel-Arab peace negotiation, will be if a peace, or some “normalisation”, will be developed between Israel and some more liberal Arab states like Oman.

    lol, Israeli-Omani peace…what a success!
    The core of the conflict is the question of Palestinian statehood and control of the holy sites in Jerusalem. Trump’s administration with its unconditional support for hardline Zionist positions has all but assured that there will be no meaningful negotations about those issues, at least as long as Trump is president.
    Those “peace” negotiations with Arab countries, if they happen, won’t advance a genuine solution of the Palestine conflict one bit. But that probably isn’t their intention anyway, I suppose it’s more about forming an anti-Iranian coalition.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  205. AaronB says:

    Its laughable to think the Arabs will make peace with Israel anytime soon. Certainly not with an Israel as it is, only 8 million strong, and rather small, and with its main backer America dwindling in power.

    Arabs are a proud and self confident people, and think long term. They have a religion which trains them to take the long view, and gives them strength.

    No, what will happen is that Israel will start expanding. There is already serious talk of annexing the West Bank or large portions of it.

    While Israel has greatly benefited from its alliance with America, it’s also acted as one of the main restraints on Israeli policy. As America dwindles in power and a rising amoral China reshapes international politics in a less moralistic and more pragmatic fashion, this restraint will no longer be so severe.

    Israel will expand, and its population will grow. It already has above replacement TFR among its Jewish population. A significantly larger Israel with 30 million people, is far more likely to be accepted, however reluctantly, as a permanent feature of the region.

    I also expect many diaspora Jews to return to Israel, as the climate in the West grows more nationalistic and less hospitable.

    Already, there is a small bit noticeable trend for Christian and Muslim Arabs to volunteer in the IDF. Evidently, there is a growing sense in these communities that Israel isn’t going anywhere, and is rising. Its quite touching to hear them declare heartfelt loyalty to the Jewish state.

  206. @Okechukwu

    The fact that spooks are undesirable residents of Germany, or any other country, doesn’t require Germany to invade Poland.

    On that note, is it okay for Poland to exclude shines, or are Poles also susceptible to being manipulated into a frenzy of hate?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  207. @AaronB

    There is already serious talk of annexing the West Bank or large portions of it.

    That raises the question of where the Palestinians will go.
    I suppose Israeli right-wingers imagine they can just expel them, or pay them to move to Jordan or Europe (preferably Germany I’d imagine). Good luck with that, such a move is certain to kill off any remaining sympathy for Israel in western countries, probably even among most Americans.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @AaronB
  208. @German_reader

    They don’t actually need to go anywhere and can simply be a subject population with limited rights.

    • Replies: @notanon
  209. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    I do believe that’s the plan.

    As I said, it depends on international politics becoming more pragmatic and less moralistic, and the power of Europe and America diminishing.

    Further, you’re forgetting the rise of the nationalists in Europe, Europeans beginning to experience Muslim violence first hand for the first time, and the moral capital accruing to Israel from continued Palestinian rejection of peace.

    Things are changing. Slowly, but they’re changing.

    Israel is already getting away with stuff that would have been literally inconceivable in the 90s, which I remember well. If the recent events in Gaza had happened in the 90s, the blowback against Israel would have been fierce.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  210. @AaronB

    If utu reads your comment, it will confirm his view that Islamic mass immigration to Europe is due to Jewish machinations for expanding Israel, by generating an anti-Islamic backlash in Europe.
    Anyway, I think your hopes for a greater Israel are foolish and won’t end well. But my main concern is of course to prevent the immigration of Palestinians to Europe.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @AaronB
  211. Okechukwu says:
    @Dmitry

    Bill Clinton was very popular with blacks. Then Obama was even more popular.

    All Democratic candidates for president are popular with blacks.

    However, with Hillary Clinton, there was no voting enthusiasm of blacks, and this could be a reason was not able to win in some important areas.

    She got more black support than she deserved. Sure, if she had fired up more black voters she would be president. But if she had gotten the same percentage of the white vote as Obama, even while slightly underperforming in the black vote, she would be president.

    So Trump should try to push Biden more to the Hillary Clinton lack of popularity with blacks, and hope he does not have a Bill Clinton/Obama popularity with this demographic.

    First of all, that won’t work. Black voters will hold their noses and vote for Biden. There’s going to be a strong grassroots effort, a very big push to get get out the vote.

    One reason Trump is president was the expectation that he didn’t have a chance. Many people stayed home and didn’t bother voting. They didn’t bother volunteering or working for the Hillary campaign. There was also a lot of complacency among voters and within the Clinton campaign. There was a genuine lack of passion and enthusiasm due to the premature anointing of Hillary. None of that is going to happen this time around. From the get-go, there’s going to be a fierce effort to vote Trump out of office.

    Also, the battle is for the white vote, particularly the white working class vote. All Biden has to do is replicate Obama’s white vote performance and he will be president.

    Yes, surely a large proportion of the Republican voters will be “anti-racists” in their self-view.

    That doesn’t make any sense. Trump isn’t trying to drum up support among Republican anti-racists. I think you mean Republican moderates, btw. That ship has probably sailed though due to Trump’s conduct and juvenile tweeting.

    This is why Hillary Clinton has tried to depress their enthusiasm for Trump, by calling them deplorable people.

    Moderate and mainline Republicans knew that that wasn’t directed at them. It did fire-up the deplorables which was a bad thing for Hillary. It probably cost her the presidency.

    When Trump is friends with Kanye and Kardashian, it is boosting his popularity partly for this reason (blacks might not vote for him, but can increases enthusiasm of his anti-racist Republican supporters).

    This is just a horrific take. You sound like some functionary in the Kremlin who is trying (and failing) to decipher American politics.

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Dmitry
  212. Discussing Trump’s reelection chances seem a bit pointless to me – in practical terms, he hasn’t really been so different from any other American president.

    There won’t be any clean salvation of the American system.

  213. @AaronB

    I would prefer if you took up the sacred task of replacing Greasy William instead of your past traditional and stereotypical Subversive Jew act.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  214. @German_reader

    Palestinian Christians aren’t bad.

    They shouldn’t go to Germany, but in reasonable numbers they would not be out of place in the Balkans, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and France.

    Though it would be a real tragedy for Christians to depart the Holy Land.

    American Christian Zionists are nuts to think God promised Israel to the Jews after they crucified Christ. The obvious Christian solution is the restoration of Outremer.

  215. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    Yes, but utu thinks empty corn fields are signs of Jewish machinations for expanding Israel.

    Well, in the long enough run nothing ever ends well. One must figure it out as one goes along. Besides, greater Israel is not world conquest or even regional conquest – its ambitious, but not megalomaniacal (which is perhaps it’s only fault).

    Unfortunately, if you are stupid enough to take in Palestinians, Israel will try and send them tour way.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  216. @Thorfinnsson

    Palestinian Christians aren’t bad.

    I wouldn’t even be that opposed to their immigration, but they’re a dwindling minority, most Palestinians are Sunni Muslims.
    We’ve already got a few of them in German politics, like those two:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawsan_Chebli
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raed_Saleh

    I don’t need more of them.

    The obvious Christian solution is the restoration of Outremer.

    Great minds think alike:
    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#comment-2215631

  217. AaronB says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Palestinian Christians are increasingly integrating into Israel and serving in the IDF. They cannot quite be equal to Jewish Israelis, but they are welcome.

  218. AaronB says:
    @Hyperborean

    I don’t think I can live up to Greasy’s legendary name.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  219. @AaronB

    Besides, greater Israel is not world conquest or even regional conquest – its ambitious

    How ambitious exactly?
    30 million Israelis sounds like a bit much even if the entire West bank were annexed.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  220. @AaronB

    I don’t think I can live up to Greasy’s legendary name.

    Try, just meditate a bit and get into the right mindset.

    • LOL: AaronB
  221. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    Its hard to say – one must exploit circumstances as they arise and respond to shifting political climates, which are unclear as of yet.

    Probably beyond just the West Bank, but certainly not most of even Israel’s immediate region.

    30 million will take decades. It’s a long term plan spanning generations, of the kind that begins to make sense once you accept religion.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  222. @AaronB

    Probably beyond just the West Bank

    That will only be possible, if the entire post-1945 order with its restrictions on annexations by conquest breaks down.
    Maybe it will happen anyway, but imo it’s a dangerous thing to hope for.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @notanon
  223. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    That order was only very strong in Europe. In other parts of the globe it never really held. And Israel has already annexed the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem.

    It will probably remain as a useful framework, but exceptions will occur and be tolerated on a case by case basis, depending on circumstances.

    I don’t imagine Israel will simply seize parts of neighboring countries without provocation.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Dmitry
    , @Yevardian
  224. notanon says:
    @Okechukwu

    One reason Trump is president was the expectation that he didn’t have a chance. Many people stayed home and didn’t bother voting.

    yes, little remarked on but when Clinton got sick during the campaign and had to take a week off the media covered for her by putting out that fake poll showing her with a 99% chance of winning and saying she wasn’t campaigning for that reason.

    This is just a horrific take. You sound like some functionary in the Kremlin who is trying (and failing) to decipher American politics.

    he’s saying GOPe politicians get themselves photographed with black people for their white soccer mom voters, not for black voters – which is correct.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  225. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Also, the post 1945 order only held because there was one power strong enough to enforce it, America. Ultimately it depended on strength, not goodwill, and not a gentleman’s agreement.

    It was not a replacement for the tragic principle of strength that has always undergirded international affairs.

    America will continue to be very strong, but its supremacy is no longer unrivalled.

  226. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    i think the plan is

    1) create the pre-conditions for ethno-sectarian civil war in the west
    2) create global economic crisis
    3) expand border and cleanse while civil war rages elsewhere

    • Replies: @AaronB
  227. notanon says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    The obvious Christian solution is the restoration of Outremer.

    yes

  228. AaronB says:
    @notanon

    That wasn’t the plan, but we’ll take it under advisement.

  229. notanon says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    if you dip your toe into zio-twitter now and then it’s pretty clear they already decided on cleansing – just waiting on opportunity.

    although i can imagine a double wall kind of deal with a Jewish only inner wall and an outer wall around the serfs.

  230. Okechukwu says:
    @notanon

    he’s saying GOPe politicians get themselves photographed with black people for their white soccer mom voters, not for black voters – which is correct.

    Except Kanye and the Kardashians would repel moderate Republicans and Independents. Trump’s people wouldn’t be dumb enough to think that these people could actually attract the white soccer mom vote. It just adds to the clown show in an already clownish administration.

    I do like Kanye musically. I consider him a musical genius.

    • Replies: @notanon
  231. Okechukwu says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Funny that you should mention Poles. Ironically, most of the disquiet surrounding immigration in Western Europe is focused on Poles and other Eastern and Central Europeans and NOT Africans. I dare say that most Germans would welcome Africans over Poles.

    Racist American alt-right clowns like you continue to be chagrined that Europeans don’t share your universal white brotherhood bullshit.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @Pharmakon
  232. notanon says:
    @Okechukwu

    it’s not so much about attracting the non-GOP white soccer mom vote exactly – the women i’m talking about are naturally GOP leaning but soft female voters who the media try to bully into not voting GOP by constant accusations of the racisms, the GOP does the pandering stuff as a response to try and counter that media bullying.

    i don’t know if it works. i think they’d be better off doing what bestTrump did and just constantly attack the media so their voters stop paying attention to it.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  233. @Okechukwu

    Doesn’t answer my question, not that I expected one. And the rest of Western Europe doesn’t have the same immigration discourse as the United Kingdom (or Germany). Matteo Salvini is not Nigel Farage.

    As for universal white brotherhood…lol.

  234. Beckow says:
    @notanon

    …i think you’re missing a step

    Why introduce more complex terminology? Neo-liberalim is simply capitalism. There are nuances and of course the technology and demographics – maybe even the weather 🙂 – are different, but the basic setup is the same: laws customised to promote selling, endless search for the cheapest possible labor, and gradual monetisation of all activity – it is the same basic system: capitalism. It works well to generate stuff to consume and it has an element of meritocracy (not much, but more than most historical systems). But it also bores to death any half-intelligent being because living in it is quite dull and exhausting.

    If you prefer you can use the terms paleo-capitalism and neo-liberalism, I agree with your 20th century summary – the reality is that capitalism run by elites that are not scared is a pretty lousy system. It was the fear that made late 20th century bearable and while the fear lasted it was quite a good overall system. The fear is gone, what now?

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @notanon
  235. notanon says:
    @Beckow

    Neo-liberalim is simply capitalism

    yes, i guess the distinction i’m trying to get at is 1920-1980 was one era and post 1980s has been another.

    It was the fear that made late 20th century bearable and while the fear lasted it was quite a good overall system. The fear is gone, what now?

    on current extrapolation my guess would be a one way trip to hell

    but we might get lucky.

  236. Okechukwu says:
    @notanon

    it’s not so much about attracting the non-GOP white soccer mom vote exactly – the women i’m talking about are naturally GOP leaning but soft female voters who the media try to bully into not voting GOP by constant accusations of the racisms, the GOP does the pandering stuff as a response to try and counter that media bullying.

    I don’t know about the media bullying anyone into voting against the GOP. There are all kinds of mainstream media in the United States, with Fox at one end of the spectrum and MSNBC at the other end, with everything in-between. Liberalism or progressivism in the US context would be considered conservative politics elsewhere in the world. For the most part, America swings from center-right to center-left politically. The so-called liberal media is only liberal relative to extreme rightwing alternative media. And the same “liberal” media is actually conservative relative to extreme leftwing alternative media.

    I’m not one that thinks that conservatism is synonymous with racism. I know hardcore rightwing Republicans who are rabid anti-racists. Trump may not want to alienate these people. But on the other hand, these people may have nowhere else to go. We don’t have a parliamentary system where voting for a minor party is not a wasted vote if that party can take part in a coalition government. We are limited to the two party system, and often we are voting on the basis of the lesser of two evils. So that soccer mom who is turned off by racism will probably vote for Trump anyway since the totality of the Republican platform and the principles for which the Republican party allegedly stands compensate for whatever misgivings she has about Trump. Besides, a lot of these voting patterns are baked in and handed down from generation to generation. I know someone who votes straight Democratic in every election. Don’t even try to talk to her about the issues. She doesn’t know and doesn’t care. She just votes Democrat because that’s what her family has always done.

    I really don’t know what Trump’s real racial attitudes are. It doesn’t really matter. The American presidency is exceedingly weak domestically, being powerful only with respect to foreign policy where they seemingly have unlimited discretionary power to wreak havoc. Whatever his racial attitudes are, keep in mind that Trump has always had black friends. And I think he genuinely wants to be beloved by black people. Being a megalomaniac, I think he would like to get a larger share of the black vote than his Republican predecessors. So Kanye is not some token vote-getting scheme.

  237. 93.9% of NRIs in the US support Modi’s re-election.

    80% of Indian-Americans support the democrats. This blatant hypocrisy is not unique to Indians, but it is a telling reminder of what a complete joke multiculturalism is. The only people who are true believers in deracinated individualism are white people – and literally nobody else. But for how much longer will whites remain that exception? Apparently until extinction.

    • Replies: @Anon
  238. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    core of the conflict is… control of the holy sites in Jerusalem.

    Israel gives control of the holy site in Jerusalem to the Muslim world (“Jerusalem Islamic Waqf”).

    So this claim doesn’t make sense.

    core of the conflict is the question of Palestinian statehood

    If that was true, why there conflict with the Arab world before 1967, when the West Bank was Jordan. And why is there conflict with Gaza after 2005.

    A concept of a separate Palestinian statehood was developed by Arab conferences and the USSR after 1964, and it became prominent after the main conflict was resolved (between Israel and Egypt, and between Israel and Jordan). The larger part of the conflict is historically between Israel and the Arab world, and not the more recent idea of Palestinian nationality which became predominant from the 1970s..

    The conflict with Palestinian Arabs, has killed 12,000 Palestinians since 1948. So this is equivalent to 5% of the deaths between FARC and the Colombian government, in the Colombian civil war, or maybe 0,5% of the deaths in the Sudanese civil war – it’s not a significant conflict by international standards.

    However, conflict between Israel and Egypt was more serious, dangerous and destructive for the world (Israel killed up to 30,000 Egyptian soldiers in 1967 and 1973), and this resulted in things like the Arab oil embargo that had damaged the American economy in the 1970s.

    Those “peace” negotiations with Arab countries, if they happen, won’t advance a genuine solution of the Palestine conflict

    The main conflict is between Israel and Arab and Muslim governments. PA is funded and controlled by the Arab governments.

    Hamas and Islamic Jihad are more independent, and part funded by Iran. But they are not involved in peace negotiations anyway.

    lol, Israeli-Omani peace…what a success!

    Countries like Oman are much more significant and more powerful, than PA – which is partly funded and appointed by the Arab League members. Middle East peace will only happen when Israel and Arab governments reconcile. PA is controlled by those Arab governments.

  239. Dmitry says:
    @Okechukwu

    All Democratic candidates for president are popular with blacks.

    Level of enthusiasm changes wildly. Bill Clinton and Obama had enthusiasm of blacks – Hillary Clinton, not very.

    You sound like some functionary in the Kremlin who is trying (and failing) to decipher American politics.

    You can complain about foreigners not understanding American politics, but everything I predict about American politics, becomes far more accurate than anything I read from other people in the internet, or in American media.

    I know that Trump was going to win the election immediately, and what all his policies would be, while clowns here are claiming that Trump is not matching “his promises” (only if you cannot understand what he was saying already in 2015).

  240. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    Since 1967 – with exception of South Lebanon security zone -, Israel has only been giving away land (land for peace policy). In de facto terms, Israel’s policy is opposite of annexation German Reader talks about, as Israel controlled twice as much land in 1967 as now.

    In the future, the most that will happen, is that Israel will not give away more land that it has.current control of

    As for Israeli Arabs – I’m not sure the idea of expelling them, is any less fantasy than people who say that British might expel the British Indians in the UK.

    It seems like a fantasy conversation.

  241. Pharmakon says:
    @Okechukwu

    “I dare say that most Germans would welcome Africans over Poles.”

    My observation as well. This tendency must continue to be encouraged as it will, both, enrich Germany (this is what the vast majority of Germans want – our German reader notwithstanding) and strenhgten Poland and the other EE nationalities by encouraging their people to ramain and make do at home.

    It is a win-win situation for as long as there is no spill-over effect into EE. Now, this would be a real problem.

  242. More on the Brexit mess.

    Farage has been on record promoting more commonwealth immigration, which in practice means more pakis and nogs. As our friend Mike P observes, why should we believe this is strategic cucking? Magatards said the same thing with Trump. Oh, it’s just a ploy for the gallery, just wait until he activates his 4D chess plan. We all know how laughable that turned out.

    Brexit was never an explicit referendum on a ethnic-majority British country. It was an implicit one on immigration, disguised through terminology like “sovereignity”, but it got mired in legalism and degenerated into a dry discussion on trade deals. There’s a lesson here. If you don’t make your demands explicit and fight elections on those demands, you’ll never get what you want even if you “win”. Strategic cucking doesn’t work.

    Farage’s election rallies are almost entirely white but in his ads, he consciously has made it a point to pose mostly with non-whites despite the fact that those people don’t vote for him. It signals weakness and an anxiousness to please those who dislike him over his own base. Once again, very Trumpian. Let’s see if his supporters are as retarded as Trump’s.

    • Replies: @notanon
  243. notanon says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Moike is good most of the time but he’s missing something here.

    The critical point of Brexit isn’t Brexit, it’s blocking an alliance between the globalist ruling elites of Britain / France / German that would be strong enough to bullycide Hungary, Poland, Italy etc.

    More on the Brexit mess.

    Brexit is going great – the more of a mess it is and the longer it takes the better.

    The only thing better than a long, drawn out ongoing mess is a clean break – which seemed extremely unlikely until the EU election but now looks like it might actually happen

    because

    Farage doing so well and the Cons doing so badly has brought him within a hair’s breadth of potentially taking their entire party off them so they’re being forced to consider hard Brexit and as soon as possible to save themselves – which is a turn of events i wasn’t expecting at all.

    it would be funny if the media attacks on Ukip, TR and Soygon distracted them from attacking Farage just enough for Farage to win this big.

    Soygon saves the world (by accident).

    #

    as to Farage himself i’ve always assumed he was initially recruited by MI5 to block the growth of ethno-nationalist parties like the BNP but he’s a bit of a Flashman character so i wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up making himself king.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  244. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Not surprising. Modi is on the hard right in India. Unabashedly Hindoo first all the way. Unapologetic as it gets. His ministers have a visceral disdain and hatred for anything not indigenous which they wear on their sleeve. So good for the Hindoos

    In the US, the democrat party is unabashedly anti-white, unabashedly pro immigration (although RINOs are converging on that) and unabashedly pro multi-cultarism. And dot Indians are a cunning Juu like people (at least the upper castes) and are as loquacious, as slippery and as shifty as (((them))). So the democrat party it is for them. After all, they still want to bring their cousins and their half brothers and their other “skilled” relatives and friends and settle them here by the million. That sick bugger Kushner is gonna make it easy for them

    I was wondering I still see a rather ambivalent attitude in Europe about “skilled” immigration and it looks like Europeans are still drinking the libertarian kool-aid. Perhaps they need to have one of their prime industries taken over by a hostile ethnic group who are notoriously nepotistic and clannish (like with the Indians in US tech) for them to get the picture. I still find many cheering for “skilled” immigration. Too bad they don’t understand that no matter the “education”, immigrants from low trust corrupt nations will most likely be very VERY ethnocentric. And the high IQ ones from there would be even worse. Imagine a high IQ deceitful charlatan. Many in the US tech industry have seen companies like Oracle and Cisco become complete Indian fiefdoms and as such now only gravitate towards startups with distinctive Caucasian founders and staff.

    I hope western Europe doesn’t learn this the hard way (like the US did when it invited these charlatans for a little ‘helping hand’ in the late 90s)

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
  245. @notanon

    The critical point of Brexit isn’t Brexit, it’s blocking an alliance between the globalist ruling elites of Britain / France / German that would be strong enough to bullycide Hungary, Poland, Italy etc.

    I was always in favor of Brexit as conceived of by the people who voted for it. The ethnic British people. I don’t see they saw it as a vehicle to help foreign countries but rather their own.

    Just as I supported Trump not because of the man per se but rather what he represented. So when I see a total betrayal of the base in either case it annoys me. Brexit was a golden opportunity to say the hell to it all, and chart their own path with minimal immigration, Basically splendid isolation 2.0. Instead we got a globalist “no we can take MORE pakis and MORE blacks and we’ll do this many rotten free trade deals where we sell out our industrial heartland even more”. Did people in the Midlands vote for that? I doubt it.

    The point here is that being explicit matters. If you are vague or allow self-proclaimed leaders like Farage to do strategic cucking what you’ll end up is that you get hosed with nothing to show for it. ‘Trusting the plan’ is the worst advice ever, as shown by Trump and now by Brexit.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  246. Yevardian says:
    @AaronB

    I don’t imagine Israel will simply seize parts of neighboring countries without provocation.

    The real AaronB comes out, the man behind the troll! This sentence is so far removed from reality it’s not even worth arguing about.

  247. @Yevardian

    Yes, though I was waiting for a few more data points before mentioning it myself.

    Anyway, I would normally not discuss the personality of commenters and similar, but AaronB always makes any discussion about psychoanalyzing his interlocutors, so I don’t think it’s illegitimate in that case.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  248. @Yevardian

    Yevardian, I wanted to ask you about the axe murderer Azeri officer. Are you aware of the story? Is it very much in Armenian consciousness? I think letting him out before serving his sentence was one of the most shameful acts of Orbán, and I don’t know how much Armenians think about it. It was actually a bit strange that they unveiled a few smaller monuments to the Armenian genocide within a year of letting him out, maybe as a gesture (they were not built by the government, rather by municipalities, churches, etc.), though some had apparently been scheduled long before, so it was at least partly a coincidence.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  249. @Anonymous

    (Not Russian, but then again neither is this Malamud guy)

    An “authentic representation of life under communism” shot in Lithuania 30 years after the fall of communism . I’m sure that Pripyat in 1986 looked just like the dilapidated buildings in the show after decades of abandonment and disrepair.

  250. @Thulean Friend

    Instead we got a globalist “no we can take MORE pakis and MORE blacks and we’ll do this many rotten free trade deals where we sell out our industrial heartland even more”

    But that was so easily predictable even before Brexit hysteria it is hard to believe it comes now as some kind of surprise.

    There was absolutely unpleasant but strategic choice – either you are getting a lot of Eastern european immigration, and yes many of them being white thrash, prone to petty criminal deeds, but having very weak national identity and being easily completely assimilated in the long run even without assimilational politics or either you are getting mass muslim immigration from multihundred million population states such as Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. which actually outnumbers whole Eastern Europe and has people who are absolutely not capable to assimilation in the long run.

    But it seems many even were/are not capable or simply refusing to realize the very existence of such choice.

  251. notanon says:
    @Thulean Friend

    I was always in favor of Brexit as conceived of by the people who voted for it.

    then you’re in luck as since the EU election it’s become much more likely (by accident).

    The point here is that being explicit matters.

    i agree but Farage has never been remotely explicit so nothing’s changed.

    he’s never claimed to be any kind of nationalist or populist leader – people project that onto him but he’s always tried to keep things as single-issue as possible. the media don’t believe him and suspect he might turn into one *after* he wins and maybe he will – or maybe he’ll be Thatcher 2.0, who knows.

  252. AaronB says:
    @Yevardian

    I guess you think Israel will seize parts of neighboring countries without provocation? Maybe, if political constraints allow it.

    The real AaronB is a work in progress, but I know this is an unfashionable position here where all is innate, in a simple fashion.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  253. AaronB says:
    @reiner Tor

    All is fair in love and war.

    Discussing motives and psychology is essential to understanding someone’s position – you would understand that if you weren’t such an abstract deracinated Enlightenment type 🙂

    • Troll: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  254. aloisius says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Nobody knows what post-brexit britain will look like, but first thing is to make it happen. Nigel Farage will probably not be deciding Britain’s immigration policy after brexit, so whatever he now says won’t matter much. He can be useful in getting there, after that everything is up for grabs.

  255. @AaronB

    The real AaronB is a work in progress, but I know this is an unfashionable position here where all is innate, in a simple fashion.

    Assuming you are sincere (perhaps a somewhat dubious prospect), I would prefer to put up to your insane stream of consciousness over you snapping and shooting up your workplace or overdosing on psychedelics or something else.

    Actually, even (or should that be especially?) if you’re just playing an elaborate joke, I still worry for your mental health.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  256. AaronB says:
    @Hyperborean

    Sanity is overrated.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  257. @AaronB

    Sanity is overrated.

    That’s easier to say when not having to deal with the fear of actual insanity emerging.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  258. @AaronB

    All is fair in love and war.

    This is neither. It’s a comment board where the only utility of participating is to write down my positions for myself, and also learn from other smart commenters.

    You are a troll who tries to prevent us from using the comment board. Anyway, the only reason to answer to you is to write down my position for myself, or for other commenters.

    you would understand that if you weren’t such an abstract deracinated Enlightenment type

    Then thank God I’m such type. I use comment boards for what they are for, and not try to psychoanalyze or wage warfare (?) or fall in love (?) with other commenters.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  259. I freely admit I know nothing about jets, so I can’t judge which jet is best for Hungary’s needs – but I am quite certain the Hungarians can. Which is why it annoys me that our government is so utterly retarded that we’re not only on the cusp of losing a major deal but also to a country I like.

    I ultimately hope this is just empty posturing, but if we keep baiting the magyars, you never know. The Jewish Bonnier media has been on an insane incitement campaign against Hungary and our PM is desperate to bootlick them every step of the way. I can’t count the times I’ve heard them attacking Orban for “anti-Semitism” for daring to name Soros. In our EU debate, we often ended up debating Hungarian internal affairs more often than what we wanted of the EU and the future path it should take. Insane.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  260. AaronB says:
    @reiner Tor

    I admire your “disinterested pursuit of knowledge” 🙂

    Anyways, my foolish young European friend, truth emerges through the crucible of passionate opponents arguing it out, not some useless and limp twisted “disinterested pursuit of knowledge”.

    I serve an invaluable role for you – it is only by contrasting your self with me and people like me that you can know what you believe.

    Plus, I make you angry, and passion brings you closer to truth 🙂

    • Troll: reiner Tor
  261. AaronB says:
    @Hyperborean

    Ate you saying I am so rooted in sanity that I have no fear of insanity emerging, so can say that?

    I hope not. There is a saying – too much sanity is its own kind of insanity.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  262. @AaronB

    Ate you saying I am so rooted in sanity that I have no fear of insanity emerging, so can say that?

    I hope not. There is a saying – too much sanity is its own kind of insanity.

    Think about it, and you’ll know the answer – or perhaps not, and it is a useless exercise.

    Either way, the result will be clear eventually – which is its own learning experience.

  263. The scientists also found that neither an increase in juvenile or adult survival rates, nor a strong decrease in fertility rates, were likely causes for the long decline seen in Neanderthals. Instead, they discovered that Neanderthal extinction was possible within 10,000 years with a 2.7% decrease in fertility rates of young Neanderthal women — first-time mothers less than 20 years old — and within 4,000 years with an 8% decrease in fertility rates in this same group.

    “The disappearance of the Neanderthals was probably due to a slight decline in the fertility among the youngest women,” Condemi said. “This is a phenomenon that is limited in scope that, over time, had an impact.”

    https://www.livescience.com/65594-neanderthal-fertility-led-to-extinction.html

    • Replies: @notanon
  264. notanon says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    i think it may come down to body heat – neanderthals having a very high metabolism to keep themselves warm and as the globe warmed that gradually became a burden.

  265. Putin is not interested in being part of the Axis of Resistance. It might be smart, but maybe not so very smart, I don’t have a firm opinion here.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/putin-has-rejected-irans-s-400-missile-request-over-soaring-gulf-tensions

  266. @Thulean Friend

    The Swedish “conservatives” are the main push behind kicking Orbán out of the EPP. Orbán now tries to get back by changing lots of things criticized by the EPP. He also doesn’t seem very interested in joining Salvini or Le Pen. It’s obvious that Hungary (or any V4 country) is too weak to resist the West much.

    Regarding the fighter jets, I think it’s obvious that renewing the lease of the Gripens (or leasing new ones) would be the best option for Hungary. We don’t need a more modern jet (which would be the F-35), as it would be much more expensive to purchase and to operate, nor do we need a slightly better jet (the F-16 for much higher purchase price, albeit similar operating costs), for our needs the Gripen is just perfect. (If we weren’t in NATO, some Russian or Chinese jets might be options for us, though maintenance is usually easier with Western jets due to somewhat higher manufacturing quality and the requirement that they be maintained by maintenance crews consisting of sub-Saharans and the likes.)

    But yes, buying weapons is always going to be a political decision, and so Orbán is probably right that we shouldn’t be buying from a country openly hostile to us and trying to enrich us with diversity. It’s also going to be hilarious watching leftists who have accused Orbán for two decades now of having made a corrupt decision (it’s alleged that some intermediary bribed him) by buying Gripens (which obviously was the very worst decision), they are now going to accuse him of being corrupt for not buying the very same Gripens again…

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
  267. @reiner Tor

    S Korean Samsung FA 50 ?

    It’s Co developed and supported by Lockheed Martin and can fire NATO standard AMRAAM/sidewinders. Probably cheaper than Grippen too…

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  268. @Vishnugupta

    I think there are costs to switching technology, so probably the Gripen should be cheap enough. The Gripen is also at least a proper multirole fighter aircraft, so its weapons load is probably larger. The FA-50 is theoretically just a trainer, albeit it has supersonic speeds etc. normally attributed to normal fighter jets. Its speed might still be too low for an air policing role, though, if an airplane with a high subsonic speed enters our rather small airspace, we need a relatively large speed difference.

    But yes, I’d consider it, too.

  269. @Hyperborean

    I was half expecting to find Iran inserted into this as the prime example of an anti-LGBT oppressive regime. I guess it’s the main reason for this farce.

  270. Yevardian says:
    @reiner Tor

    Honestly you probably know more than me, as like the majority of the world’s Armenoids, neither me or my folks were born anywhere near the Caucasus region. I’ve also been too preoccupied the past month to follow any news items closely. The opinion of Armenia (the country) on the world stage means squat, any attention it gets at all is only due to powerful ethnic-lobbies in Russia and France. This latest scandal won’t change much in that Armenia has no relations with Azerbaijan anyway.

    OT, I’ve nearly finished Bryan Cartledge’s The Will to Survive: A History of Hungary, the author has quite a few anecdotes showing what a naive dimwit Horthy really was, whilst being fundamentally decent. Some of the highlights was Horthy sending Hitler a bowl of Hungarian fruit (complete with preparation instructions) with an apology note after he’d just recently stunned the Fuhrer badly asking if Hungary could retreat all its troops from Russia. Or him trying to impress Hitler with his pet idea of attaching manned kites to U-Boats for observation purposes.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    , @Yevardian
  271. Yevardian says:
    @Yevardian

    Well I’ve read a bit more into the aftermath of Safarov’s acquittal and nothing really surprises me, up to him being elevated to a national celebrity in Azerbaijan. This is the state that ordered the demolition of Armenian Cemeteries and Churches across the country after all.

    Apparently while in prison the murderer translated Magda Sabor into Turkish (Azeri is just pre-Kemal Ottoman Turkish), I wonder if that had anything to do with his release..

    As for reactions, you probably saw something like this in the news already, but Hungary isn’t very popular. Thanks to proximity to Turkey and its own retarded Turanist movement, most Armenians still have the perception that Hungarians are related to Turks, even though that dumb theory has been disproved over and over again.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  272. Yevardian says:
    @Yevardian

    This latest scandal won’t change much in that Armenia has no relations with Azerbaijan anyway.

    To clarify, something I thought I mentioned but didn’t: Safarov was promoted to an army Major a while ago after already being promoted to Colonel sometime after he murdered Magaryan.

  273. @Yevardian

    Yes, I’ve seen that scenes like that, it was widely reported in the press. (A lot of it was sympathetic, actually. People can understand why Armenians were angry.)

    that dumb theory has been disproved over and over again

    Both dumb Hungarian and dumb Turkish nationalists still believe it, so Armenians do have a point.

  274. @Yevardian

    Gyurgyany seems far more intelligent than Orban

    I might’ve written about it elsewhere. There was a short TV show about the both of them in 2006 before the election (when they were the top candidates for prime minister), and they showed their homes. Gyurcsány’s home was full of bookshelves, while Orbán didn’t have any at his home.

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