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My remont is approaching its long-awaited end – and its most intensive and costly period. To compound matters, I have also been rather under the weather these past few days. Nothing serious, but in between that and shopping all day, that has left little energy for blogging.

This will soon pass, but for now, here’s a fresh new open thread.

***

Thankfully there’s not much in the way of Big News. These Syria events are going to happen from time to time anyway, so I don’t know if it’s worth getting too worked up over them. Putin sure isn’t. In any case, I have said more or less all that I have to say about the Syrian conflict. I lukewarmly support Russia’s intervention there, but this is tempered by my perception that Russia is ultimately only there at the sufferance of Israel, Turkey, and the US. They set the ultimate rules of the game there. There is only so much (which is not a lot) that Russia can do to push them around. And Syria’s 85 average national IQ isn’t going anywhere. Fuck ups every now and then are inevitable. Some of them will kill Russians. But that’s the price of placing your training arena in the middle of a real conflict. Russia would be stupid to forget that Syria is anything more than a training arena. Fortunately, Putin is a bit smarter than certain commenters.

***

* ABC: Leave no dark corner.

I’ll admit when I first heard of early Chinese “social credit” c.2014 I thought it was just another Sinophobic fantasy. The initial scheme by Sesame Credit seemed in line with what American banks practiced as a matter of course.

But now it really does seem like it was the prelude to a hitherto unseen kind of digital totalitarianism.

You have some Chinese people saying that this will be good at tackling the problems of low trust in Chinese society, but it strikes me as a sovok maozuo solution to maozuo problems.

Anyhow, their country – their choice… at least for now. Something that you can’t say about the US, which wants to shove neoliberalism.txt down the throats of everyone in the world.

***

peppers

In lighter, spicier news, we chopped up the peppers with garlic and tomatoes, blended them, added salt and vinegar, boiled and stirred the mixture, and bottled it up.

It’s pre-ddy good. Thanks for all the recipe suggestions.

I am doing my patriotic duty to radically hotten up Russian food ways in preparation for runaway global warming and the immanentization of Tropical Hyperborea. You may not like it, but this is what peak cuisine looks like.

I found an ostrich egg at a provincial shop. Apparently there is now an ostrich farm in Lipetsk oblast. Isn’t capitalism great? We need ostriches for the coming deserts. Very scenic.

In unrelated news, I discovered Portuguese green wine at a Metro store. Also quite by accident. Kuban steak is equal to any American steak. I am not into cheeses, but from what I’ve seen, there are fully serviceable Russian equivalents to all the major French sorts (there’s a great selection at Danilovsky Market).

Anyhow, I really am amused by /r/politics-level discourse that Russians are eating tree bark. But some people really seem to believe it.

***

I am glad that German_reader has rejoined us. Thorfinnsson is an on/off sort of guy. I hope Randal and Guillaume Tell are ok.

 
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  1. Based on your previous article, A Short History of the Third Millennium, what do you think it would take for the Age of Malthusian Industrialism to become a reality? Even with worldwide dysgenic trends, it might only take a single country to create a sustainable noosphere. Suppose that there is a single small country of a few million people that successfully manages to fend off dysgenic trends and uses embryo selection/CRISPR/artificial wombs to increase the intelligence of its populace, and ends up having an average IQ of, say, 200, acting as an island of progress in a sea of idiocracy. This single country might be able to henceforth dominate the rest of the world, and eventually bring forth a technological singularity. In order for Age of Malthusian Industrialism to happen, wouldn’t increasing IQs through these sorts of technologies have to fail everywhere?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  2. Thorfinnsson has returned to save your souls from the terrible curse of poor quality products and bad investments. Happy to hear German_reader is back.

    Tesla is now officially being investigated by the Department of Justice, which is highly irregular (usually the SEC handles these things). Polish Perspective looking baggier by the day.

    That said, Polish Perspective deserves praise for his warnings on China. It seems like China actually really is–finally–in economic trouble. Capital is fleeing, there’s severe pressure on the RMB, the stock market is crumbling, and the Belt and Road Initiative appears to be turning into a fiasco. The Chinese also apparently didn’t take Trump seriously and were caught flat footed by the trade war.

    Travel Notes

    Had the interesting experience of meeting someone with a similar background to me, but a generation older. Grew up in New York of French parents. Fellow businessman. Not one of our guys politically, but polite enough to tolerate my bigoted outbursts. Karlin can perhaps relate since many of his formative years were spent in an Anglo country. I suspect our divided/weak national identities have made us more, rather than less, nationalistic. Orwell made this point in writing about the H-man.

    France has a massive plague of cyclists. Every tiny little village even in the middle of nowhere France has at least one restaurant that would be rated as excellent anywhere in America. The French, while not as stylish as Italians, are quite stylish. Meat and seafood counters at France are wonderful to explore, and now there are good steaks as well (imported from Down Under). Overall French civilization is admirable and impressive. France has appalling numbers of negroes milling around. They should be shot.

    We were originally to fly British Airways to India from the South of France (owing to my father’s bad habit of loyalty to institutions that don’t deserve it), which would’ve required going through the dreaded London Heathrow. Fortunately BA cancelled our flights. We then flew Swiss Air instead, which connected through Zurich. Swiss Air’s business class product isn’t quite as good as BA’s, but it’s perfectly serviceable. I had the pleasure of flying it first in 2014, after I was arrested at O’Hare and thus missed my Lufthansa flight (cattle class). Fortunately since I required medical treatment (cops gave me a black eye) they were required to book me on a new flight for free.

    The big advantages were a shorter trip and connecting through Zurich rather than Heathrow. Zurich’s airport lives up to all the stereotypes of the Swiss nation. Roomy, spacious, efficient, fast. Interestingly airport security in Switzerland is handled by the cantons. I have never seen such an arrangement in another country.

    India was India as usual. The Bombay international terminal is now quite nice, but there is only one first/business class lounge which is operated by the airport operator. It’s overcrowded and the bathrooms smell like piss (which bathrooms in India generally do). The resort we stayed at was very nice other than frequent (but brief) power outages. Unfortunately the beach was also strewn with garbage, but that didn’t stop enterprising Indian crabbers from hustling at 4am for their daily catch. Indian food as usual got old after about two days, though I did have a delightful fish dish which consisted of a whole fish coated in masala or whatever and grilled inside of a banana leaf.

    White God syndrome still at work in India. Visited a medieval fortress and a group of Indian mohammedan women clad in black burkas came up my father and I giggling like school girls and begged to take photos with us. Watch out Talha.

    Also my father is now reading the Unz Review and might see this. If you’re reading this don’t identify yourself or debate with me ffs.

  3. I hope Randal

    There’s been no activity on his Disqus account since May; either he suddenly decided to be done with the net or, I’m afraid, something happened to him. Pretty depressing thought.
    I also wonder if Greasy_William has permanently left; iirc he mentioned he had trouble with the IRS. I hope he hasn’t been locked away for tax fraud.

  4. Hokie says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    There is no such thing a “plague of cyclists”. Either a country supports physical exercise and public transit, or it becomes a slovenly, obese country addicted to cars.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  5. @Hokie

    How does it feel to be wrong?

    The issue with cyclists has little to do with their particular mode of transportation. Though it is an occasional issue, as they do interfere with motorists.

    The main problem with them is aesthetics. To be blunt–they look like fucking fags. I cycle to work most days, but I don’t dress like a faggot. I wear pressed chinos, an OCBD, Allen Edmonds loafers, etc. Getting on a bicycle doesn’t require me to dress like a homo-sexual, but many have this problem.

  6. Dmitry says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    I remember you were visiting your grandparents in India.

    But seriously, I vote for you to write guest post about India. This is a country which is more interesting than most things on this site. I’m sometimes hearing it’s the best country ever, and other times that it’s the worst country in the world.

    My uncle was on holiday there once (maybe 20 years ago), and only thing he says when I asked him, was it worst and most unpleasant country in the world. On other hand, cousin of my mother is visiting India and Nepal, and loves it.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Yevardian
  7. Dmitry says:

    I like how Karlin is posting photos of chilis, like it’s some rare cannabis.

    There is some uniquely weird culture of the blog, making it impossible for people ever to leave here, or find a substitute on other parts of the internet. Even Greasy will have to come back at some point.

  8. Grandparents?!

    I’m Swedish ffs. A blond God.

    But yes, you are right otherwise. Seems like I am inevitably being pushed in this direction.

    • Replies: @AP
  9. @Dmitry

    Aside from Karlin’s top quality content, it’s a matter of freedom. We post, and it gets immediately posted. Our comments aren’t censored. Powerful recipe.

    Perhaps I should invite you all to my uncensored internet forum which has been running for nearly twenty years now.

    • Replies: @newanon
    , @Pumblechook
  10. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    India is both the worst and most unpleasant country in the world and the most fascinating.

    When I first visited in 2001, I wanted to immediately leave it seemed so horrible. Nothing prepared me for it. My vision of poverty was the Bronx. I didn’t leave because it would have been too embarrassing to face my friends. I could not imagine spending 3 months there (my return flight was in 3 months).

    By the end if the trip I calmed down and had some pretty interesting experiences, but didn’t think I’d ever really return.

    Back in the dull humdrum life of boring America, I couldn’t get India out of my mind. Kept on thinking about how intense it all was. By the end if the year I was planning another trip to Asia, a much longer one this time taking in more countries.

    I never “really” returned to America.

    Since then I’ve been to India at least 10 times. It still a crazy place, but not quite as special as it was in 2001. I suppose that can be said about the whole world, as modernity advances.

    Mark Twain said after his world tour India was the only country worth visiting again, and Rudyard Kipling wanted to spend his whole life in Bombay.

    Second on Thor trip report.

  11. Yevardian says:
    @Dmitry

    If you want to read some ‘colourful’ anecdotes on India, I suggest Robert Lindsay’s blog. The man appears to have an odd personal history and his writing style suggests personal instability (eg. an odd obsession with homosexuals hitting on him, self-declared genius), but he has some great guest-posts.

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/category/raceethnicity/south-asians/east-indians/

    Here you will find some of the most vitriolic bile written about any race in the world. Unfortunately in my experience nearly everything seems correct, though I have only really dealt with Punjabis. Ironically, Robert Lindsay claims not to be ‘racist’. He’s in denial.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  12. AP says:

    So I just watched the Ukrainian show “Servant of the People”, which is on Netflix in the USA. An amusing show worth watching. It’s in Russian with English subtitles. It has a accurate depiction of Kiev, where it is set and filmed.

    Fox bought the rights to it so there will be an American remake.

    It’s also on youtube:

  13. Rosie says:

    Are you all aware of the fact that Steve King quoted Molyneux in a tweet? You could have knocked me over with a feather.

    Molyneux is right. Hillary’s accusations exactly define her & her husband’s actions. Remember when she said “we have a sexual offender in the White House”? https://t.co/T4lveDvrsj— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) September 19, 2018

  14. @Dmitry

    We’ll they’re rather special chillies since we grew them ourselves, and the tomatoes. Even if I do say so myself.

  15. @Yevardian

    I have ok relations with Lindsay but his anti-India obsession is pretty weird.

    I have personally had very good relations with Indians, so that predisposes me to an Indophile direction.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  16. AP says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    How do you like the aesthetics of this New Order album cover?

    First track is Wagner.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  17. @Thorfinnsson

    Yo thor.

    It seems like China actually really is–finally–in economic trouble. Capital is fleeing, there’s severe pressure on the RMB, the stock market is crumbling, and the Belt and Road Initiative appears to be turning into a fiasco.

    That’s not my analysis though, my position is a bit more nuanced. I’ve been a skeptic on BRI for a long time and I’ve pointed out that Chinese growth is not similar to SK/Japan after 2011 in that it is far more reliant on debt, but I still think they will rise. Just not as rapidly/smoothly as SK did over a longer time horizon.

    I also don’t think that the current trade tensions will truly faze them in any serious way. Exports only account for 18% of their GDP and the US share is just 4% of their GDP. A significant slowdown in US exports will only shave off maybe 0.5% to 0.7% of their GDP growth. Not nothing, but hardly an economic meltdown. Their debt position is of a far greater concern.

    Tesla is now officially being investigated by the Department of Justice

    Which will go nowhere.

    White God syndrome still at work in India. Visited a medieval fortress and a group of Indian mohammedan women clad in black burkas came up my father and I giggling like school girls and begged to take photos with us.

    Same in China. I was in Beijing a few years ago. It was insane how much attention you get, even now. Overall, It was surprising to me how few non-East Asians I saw, despite it being the capital. I think it boils down to the ‘exotic factor’. Same reason why blacks or other minorities will be attractive in very homogenous places but after a certain threshold, their status will fall, often dramatically. Even in the US, despite constant propaganda in the US media, black men are selected against (as revealed by OKCupid’s data before they faced too much backlash and stopped releasing it).

    You sort of wonder if there will be a similar effect for all the sexpats out there like Jeff Stryker and others who are very militant about diaspora life in SEA. Maybe money is another factor there, aside from just the exotic factor. Same is likely true in India and, to a lesser extent, perhaps even China.

  18. Talha says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thanks for reporting, glad you’re back safe and sound.

    begged to take photos with us.

    Whoa!!! Niqabis??!! That is pretty whack!

    Since this is an open thread, a related issue (fairly hot off the press):

    Also…This. Sucks. And. Ruins. Good. Memories.

    “EXCLUSIVE: Are Bert & Ernie a couple? We finally have an answer…”

    https://www.queerty.com/exclusive-bert-ernie-couple-finally-answer-20180916

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    , @Kinez
  19. @Talha

    Also…This. Sucks. And. Ruins. Good. Memories.

    Is there anything retconning can’t do?

    • Replies: @Talha
  20. Some good news out of Ukraine. And it shows – conclusively – why any comparison with Sub-Saharan Africa should be dismissed as lunacy.

    Ukraine has become the primary outsourcing market in Eastern Europe, according to Outsourcing Journal, and is top in Central and Eastern Europe by outsourcing volume. It’s the fifth largest IT services exporter [by value], according to consultancy PwC.

    “The industry has tripled over the last few years,” says Andrew Sorohan, team lead at Kiev-based VC firm UVentures. “We’ve got a young, highly skilled workforce working on projects in machine learning and big data analytics for clients like UBS, Uber, Google, Deutsche Bank, and Amazon.”

    Source

    In the last four years, according to PwC, the number of IT specialists has more than doubled, from just over 40,000 to nearly 92,000.

    In terms of available talent, Ukraine already outpaces its competitors in the region, including Poland and Hungary, and PwC believes the number of IT professionals will double again by 2020.

    Marvin Liao, a partner at the San Francisco-based venture capital fund 500 Startups who’s spent considerable time in Ukraine, believes that the conflict with Russia has had a significant impact on the country’s IT sector.

    “The natural leaning used to be towards the post-Soviet region, and for better or worse, since the war started, there’s been a massive shift to leaning towards the West.
    “More people are learning to speak English, they are much more Western leaning, and that has changed the orientation of the ecosystem.”

    Source

    There is now also a greater involvement of Israeli high tech firms, hiring Ukrainian outsourcing companies and the UA government wants to increase this.

    Incidentally, the newest human development index rankings were released a few days ago and Ukraine placed slightly below China but still ahead of Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Paraguay etc. I re-iterate my strong conviction that there is nothing stopping Ukraine from becoming a wealthy country from a strictly HBD perspective but that its failures must be seen from a primarily socio-political lens. This will not go down well with HBD essentialists/fundamentalists, but it is impossible to understand Ukraine’s trajectory post-1991 otherwise.

  21. Talha says:
    @Hyperborean

    Next thing you know it’ll be these guys…

    “Well, you know, we couldn’t use dildos because of our target audience.. so we got creative…”

    Peace.

    • LOL: Hyperborean
  22. @Polish Perspective

    Same in China. I was in Beijing a few years ago. It was insane how much attention you get, even now. Overall, It was surprising to me how few non-East Asians I saw, despite it being the capital. I think it boils down to the ‘exotic factor’.

    I have noticed that they are a lot more blatant with foreigners who have some ‘stereotypical’ trait like being tall, blonde or fat.

    On another note, there are a lot of Africans in districts with universities, they are really rowdy and often travel in packs.

    I did see a group of young male Pakistanis in Manchuria once who looked like they were buying a lot of rubbish, but usually desi tourists travel in families.

  23. @Anatoly Karlin

    I read some of the blog.

    That’s pretty intense, his opinions.

  24. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    You need a woman who can cook. Anatoly, Russia and China are getting closer. The relationship is blossoming. You can do your part by finding a nice Chinese woman to settle down with. Do like Derb and find a lifetime of happiness with a tiger wife. And remember, to Chinese woman you’ll look like Ryan Gosling so you can punch way above your weight class with yellow women. Invite Daniel Chieh to your wedding. He can entertain your in-laws with interesting conversation.

  25. @Anonymous

    Like I said before, that’s just so quaint when he has discussed the incredibly good news of iron wombs. And no genetic loss this time – the master race of Karlin clones is coming!

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  26. @Dmitry

    Our little patchwork of fond insanity.

  27. @ImmortalRationalist

    Some potentially negative news for CRISPR(reposted here).

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06642-4

    Suppose that there is a single small country of a few million people that successfully manages to fend off dysgenic trends and uses embryo selection/CRISPR/artificial wombs to increase the intelligence of its populace, and ends up having an average IQ of, say, 200, acting as an island of progress in a sea of idiocracy.

    There’s probably no hope that a seastead or equivalent is going to be able to avoid being zerg rushed/nuked or otherwise assailed in an destructive way by protagonists who, while not of the highest IQ, will be capable of effecting the assault. You probably need space travel to dodge that bullet.

    And realistically, disturbing as it might be, you’ll probably get a government that’s matching sperm to artificial wombs, and raising children in creches before you actually get to coordinate people to have children in such a fashion.

  28. Brabantian says: • Website

    Trump’s ‘election Svengali’, Steve Bannon, trying to ‘unite nationalists’ in Europe, is showing unskilled naiveté about European politics, article in Politico here.

    For his new vehicle, ‘The Movement’, headquartered in Brussels, Steve Bannon has selected an organisation actually founded in 2017 and remaining headed by, a prominent but eccentric Belgian-Jewish politician and lawyer, Mischaël Modrikamen, quite tied to Israel … having an in-your-face Zionist as head of a ‘pan-European-nationalist movement’ is not exactly brilliant

    Tho certainly the European ‘right’ is mostly tied to Israel, its leaders typically doing the ‘wear a Jewish kippah head cover at the Jerusalem wailing wall’ submission routine … Europeans also tend to have a quiet residual intellectual soft spot for Palestine-Arafat etc, and cannot easily see a flying-to-Israel Jew as their ‘nationalist leader’ … Europeans won’t say much but they will tend to stay away from Bannon, as the Politico article hints they are inclined to do

    Bannon’s new ‘leader’, Modrikamen, is a central figure in Belgium’s Jewish community and in ties to Israel, and heads a small Belgian ‘People’s Party’ (‘Partipopulaire’) with one seat in Belgium’s national parliament, and which has ‘an implacable struggle against radical Islam’ as one of its key agenda items – video of Modrikamen below … Europeans will sense he is as much interested in Israeli agenda items as ‘European nationalism’

    Also listed amidst the direction of ‘The Movement’, is French politician Ms Laure Ferrari, who has been living in Nigel Farage’s posh Chelsea home, and can be seen doing a body-grind dance intimately with him at a party, in a funny video on the Sun website, also linked below … tho Farage has said the Sun & Daily Mail suggestion she is his lover, is “crackers”. Laure Ferrari had been a candidate for France’s right-wing ‘Arise France’ (Debout La France / Debout la République) party, and had been directing the IDDE euro-sceptic think tank, now seemingly wound down, after being the subject of some critical inquiries for allegedly dodgy political fund disbursements

    One quote amidst the articles on Nigel Farage and his ‘houseguest’ Laure Ferrari is a comment the Brexit leader made on Brussels philandering:

    “What happens in Brussels, stays in Brussels, and it needs to be that way.”
    - Nigel Farage

    ‘Nigel Farage grinds his French politician girlfriend Laure Ferrari on the dance floor at Brexit anniversary party’

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3879002/nigel-farage-dances-girlfriend-laure-ferrari-brexit-party/

    Here is Steve Bannon’s organisational founder, Mischaël Modrikamen, speaking at the 2016 Leaders’ Summit in Jerusalem (11m15s):

  29. @Daniel Chieh

    Clones are vulnerable because of their uniformity. The Great Pestilence destroyed a third of the population in Europe, but if we were all clones, it’d have either destroyed nobody or the whole population. So while moderate hits are rarer with a good quality clone population, wipeouts are more common, and you only need one of them to destroy you for good.

  30. My remont is approaching its long-awaited end

    Just a small question: this is at least the 2nd column in which you have used remont for what I would call “refurbishment” or “renovation”. Is this a Russian word taken from French, like мебель for “furniture”(although Fr. remonte doesn’t really have this sense)?

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  31. szopen says:

    Hehehe, In Polish internet slang people sometimes tend to miss the “ł” letter (the “w” as in “wind” sound) or replacing it with “u”, so instead of writing “mało” or “zło” they would write “mao” or “zuo”. Mao zuo. Mało zło. A ungrammatical, pidgin for “little evil” :D

    Wonder whether it would work the same in Russian :D

  32. @szopen

    Unfortunately not.

    But that’s hilarious!

  33. @for-the-record

    Is this a Russian word taken from French, like мебель for “furniture”(although Fr. remonte doesn’t really have this sense)?

    Yes.

    https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82

  34. @szopen

    I’ve heard that in the past the Polish ł letter used to be pronounced like a regular l, is this correct?

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
  35. @AP

    Image doesn’t load.

    That said New Order is the best New Wave band.

    I listen to Blue Monday every day when I brush my hair in the morning.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  36. @Polish Perspective

    Agree on trade tensions, but a potential straw that breaks the camel’s back situation.

    You can’t possibly know that the DoJ investigations of Tesla will go nowhere, and to be fair neither can I. All we can do is wait and see. If nothing else the Tesla saga is interesting.

    Selection against black men exists but is lesser than selection against other non-whites. It was stronger before Kim K mainstreamed mudsharking. And there’s a fraction of females who prefer black men.

    Money is always a factor. Even American white girls respond to money.

    • Replies: @Neal
  37. @Anonymous

    Disgraceful and disgusting advice. You should be sent to a concentration camp.

    As Weihan Zhang says, “No mix species grandparents cry am NOT ALLOW”.

  38. neutral says:
    @Polish Perspective

    but it is impossible to understand Ukraine’s trajectory post-1991 otherwise

    Is there anything in their history that shows them as anything but a docile, compliant and unremarkable people? If this is their entire history then HBD is a factor here, it is in their genetics, and it cannot be excused with political reasons.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    , @AP
    , @notanon
  39. @Thorfinnsson

    after I was arrested at O’Hare and thus missed my Lufthansa flight (cattle class). Fortunately since I required medical treatment (cops gave me a black eye)

    Can you elaborate?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  40. @Hyperborean

    I’ve heard that in the past the Polish ł letter used to be pronounced like a regular l, is this correct?

    Probably. Pronouncing ‘l’ as ‘w’ is a common speech impediment in Russia.

  41. @neutral

    There’s really no such thing as a ‘Ukrainian people’.

    Ukraine is a flat expanse of land right on the confluence of Western Europe, the Eurasian plain, Middle East and the Balkans.

    This explosive combination means it was always a contested, ruinous land. The people there are a mystery mix of various tribes who passed to and fro in between periods of depopulation.

    A powerful nation can take the place and hold the borders for a while, but often soon realizes it is not worth the trouble.

    Another period of depopulation and ruin is coming soon. It’s just the circle of life in the place.

  42. idemidov says:
    @szopen

    Hmm. Russian little children in their 3 or 4 years who cant pronounce “l” properly speaks wrong and exactly the same way — missing “l” or speaks “u” or “w” instead of.
    Like:
    “Maen’koe” instead of “malen’koe”.
    “Zuo” instead of “zlo”.

  43. Nznz says: • Website

    Assuming that no silver bullet is found which magically raises human IQ in the foreseeable future, how should the government in developed countries deal with technological unemployment, government subsidized mass make work jobs?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @notanon
  44. @Nznz

    Universal Basic Income, most likely, possibly with a makework component. Technological unemployment is probably overstated, the human brain is capable of flexibility in a way machines aren’t and therefore is actually more affordable for an entire range of work.

    Its why I joked once that the future will be silicon intelligences utilizing carbon-based intelligence for slaves, since there is a possibility that specialist roles will be mechanized, but low return variable input work will be humanized with large supply of cheap labor.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @iffen
  45. AP says:
    @neutral

    docile, compliant and unremarkable people

    Frequent rebellion, anything but docile and compliant.

  46. @Thorfinnsson

    My brother did the same when he was going through his American Psycho fandom phase.

  47. The USSR was mean and evil: it put its opponents into psychiatric institutions with bogus diagnoses. Fortunately, you have to fear no such things in the free and liberal European Union.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-20/marine-le-pen-must-undergo-psychiatric-evaluation-french-court-rules

    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @Mitleser
  48. @reiner Tor

    When I read that today I had exactly the same thought.

  49. Talha says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    future will be silicon intelligences utilizing carbon-based intelligence for slaves

    I thought they were going to use us as batteries, no?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  50. UN medium-variant population projections for 2100:

    Nigeria 794 million

    Europe* 653 million

    * includes all of Russia, I believe.

    This of course understates the discrepancy, since a substantial proportion of European population will be non-European.

    https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Publications/Files/WPP2017_KeyFindings.pdf

  51. @Talha

    Ludicrously inefficient. But I actually am contemplating a pretty cool idea very vaguely circling this for a story.

  52. @Daniel Chieh

    You have mentioned you were an artist of a kind in the past. Are you a writer or do drawings or…?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  53. @Hyperborean

    I’m primarily a writer, but I also do a little bit of digital art and drawing. I’ve mused about doing caricatures of some of the regulars here once, kind of what was done in Salo Forums(probably as close to a right-wing art group as I’ve ever found).

    • Replies: @iffen
  54. @for-the-record

    Lots of flights were delayed owing to weather, so I went to the United lounge along with many other people.

    Around midnight they shut down the bar, but we didn’t want it to close. So I went behind the bar and started serving everyone. About 45 minutes later the cops showed up. I tried to escape but was unable to.

    Woops.

    NBD as the cop didn’t show up to court so the charges (disorderly conduct, resisting arrest) were dropped.

  55. Talha says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Ludicrously inefficient.

    Totally agree. I remember when that was proposed in the movie I thought to myself – well, that’s thinking outside the box – totally unrealistic, but I’ll play along for fun.

    Humans are totally inefficient for labor. A few of us brothers got together for an event at the construction site of a new mosque. We moved thousands upon thousands of bricks around. It took us a couple of hours to do what a forklift could have done in a few minutes.

    Peace

  56. Kinez says:
    @Talha

    They should do a survey investigating men’s attitudes on restricting women’s ever more revealing clothing choices. Large European cities, east and west, give the impression of an open air whorehouse during the summer months. Men are also dressing much more vulgarly than they used to.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Talha
  57. @Kinez

    We should go traditional with codpieces.

    • Replies: @iffen
  58. Talha says:
    @Kinez

    I’d love to see that survey. I will generally avoid any college campus during summer time unless I have to go by necessity.

    Men are also dressing much more vulgarly than they used to.

    That too. Perhaps because fashion trends for men are also being set by homosexuals…?

    Peace.

  59. Kinez says:
    @Polish Perspective

    I’m sure there are plenty of intelligent, capable and competent people in the Ukraine. Unfortunately, that’s not sufficient for building a prosperous society. Institutions, (geo)politics, demographics, migration trends, the international environment etc all play a very important role. Otherwise, people’s standard of living would already be equal to that in Russia or Poland.

    92,000 people working as IT specialists is of course much better than none, but for a country of (supposedly) 42 million it’s a drop in the bucket. Per capita Ukrainian exports of goods and services were about four times lower than Bulgaria last year (~$5,400 vs ~$1,300)! It’s not impossible that one day, in several decades, the situation will look completely different – but it will be a long road. In the meantime, people are leaving, the infrastructure is in an awful state, corruption continues unabated etc.

  60. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    I’ve mused about doing caricatures of some of the regulars here

    Don’t forget the self-portrait.

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
  61. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Leave it to the monarchists.

  62. @Thorfinnsson

    France has appalling numbers of negroes milling around. They should be shot.

    How you enjoy any respectability on here, I can’t get through my head. The “playful” facade fools no one. If it looks like a Nazi, swims like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, then it probably is a Nazi.

    (And a … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder)

  63. @Swedish Family

    If you don’t mind my asking, what is your approximate age range?

    • Replies: @Swedish Family
  64. Talha says:
    @Swedish Family

    You have to be able to catch good-faith attempts at trolling on Internet forums. Too bad Greasy isn’t here, he was a fairly good extremist Jewish troller – would call all sorts of people subhuman while talking about their women being hot.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Swedish Family
  65. Couple at centre of Novichok scare [PUTIN TRIED TO KILL ME] are suspected drug dealer and £4,000-a-night high-class escort

    The man at the centre of the latest Salisbury Novichok scare is a suspected pusher of cocaine, ecstasy, diazepam and ketamine.

    Alex King, 42, is charged with 12 counts of possession with intent to supply class A, B and C drugs and is on bail until his trial next year.

    King and Russian wife Anna Shapiro fell violently ill whilst dining in the Wiltshire town on Sunday but both have been discharged from hospital.

    The glamour model told friends recently that she was a “honeytrap spy” tasked with seducing men for Israeli spy agency Mossad.

    The Mirror can also reveal she is a high-class £4,000 a-night escort…

    Anna claims she and Alex were fleeing their Central London home via Salisbury to avoid being hit by Russian assassins, like ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-centre-novichok-scare-suspected-13275555?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1537399231

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
  66. Worst case scenario would be Russia joining totalitarian Sinosphere, and Greater Visegrad joining totalitarian neoliberalism.txt. In this case, kiss European civilization goodbye for at least 3 generations. And have American troops in Gdansk face off PLA troops in St. Petersburg.

    This is probably what the globalists have up in their sleeves. Its up to Visegrad and Russia to resist joining neoliberalism.txt (and social and economic integration with America in this process), for the former, and Sinosphere (and social/economic integration with China, Golden Horde 2.0 with 21st century Chinese characteristics), respectively

    • Replies: @KA
  67. @Thorfinnsson

    You have always strongly reminded me of a guy who used to post on the phora – he left it before I started posting (between 2010-11) his username was Thomas something and he was a high-powered, heavy-lifting high-IQ Swedish-American lawyer and an unapologetic WN (though an apologetic one would be a bit absurd…).

    Anyway, good travel notes on France and pretty similar to my own observations. I was at a wedding in the depths of Normandy last weekend (a village some 3 hours west of Paris by car but easily reachable by train and has thus become very popular with wealthy types from the western suburbs with enough cash to buy a weekend cottage) – no more than 1000 souls but a bakery the equal to anything I could find in London or New York, nothing but natives (even handing out wedding canapés) and of the many farmers visible in the fields, many of them under 40 with children helping.

    But this strong and healthy rural base of France makes the state of the cities even more of a shame – the serious cities with serious economies and serious culture which are 80%+ euro are not many – maybe Rennes, Nantes, Lille(though now it’s probably below that) and the crown jewel Bordeaux. The last one is a beautiful city for those who haven’t visited – a great base for exploring the wine country and also the underrated regions of Armagnac/cognac either side of it, magnificent architecture (it was a wealthy slaving city) and a centre stuffed with atmospheric pubs, bars and clubs – going out with my cousin in Bordeaux we always came back home with a girl! Even the local Arabs and blacks are a lot more chilled out – though many still find it hard to resist finding a good street corner to glare at natives from, they know deep down that they are lucky to live there!

    • Replies: @AquariusAnon
    , @Yevardian
  68. @Pumblechook

    I know that France as a whole is probably sitting just at 80% white. From the google street view I’ve seen of many of the cities, it just feels like a decaying, moribund country.

    Wonder how will France bottom out as. There’s a pretty big chance chance that they’ll be in their 6th republic very soon.

    • Replies: @Pumblechook
    , @Dmitry
  69. notanon says:
    @neutral

    the Indo-Europeans started in what is now Ukraine

    being so far inland i expect they suffer from iodine deficiency which may not have mattered so much in the past when they had the horses and everyone was dumber.

    • Replies: @AP
  70. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    ” Syria’s 85 average national IQ isn’t going anywhere. Fuck ups every now and then are inevitable. Some of them will kill Russians”

    That is exactly what your Jewish boss has told you to offer as an explanation for the stupidities of Russian behaviors.

    Thanks for obliging the master.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  71. notanon says:
    @Nznz

    all industrial countries should completely halt immigration with very limited exceptions for the clearly exceptional and let the population decline till it’s in balance with technology

    and in the interim a mixture of make work and universal basic income

  72. @anon

    But how do you know that Unz’s mind waves aren’t making you post this as well?

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  73. @AquariusAnon

    You really think so re: decaying cities? Apart from the banlieues I don’t find that tonne the case.

    Whilst what I said about serious cities is true (although of course if you are living in good areas of Paris it is a dream city – I lived a year in a catholic middle-class quarter and you would never know you were 30 mins from utter shitholes) – the beauty of living in France is the choice of small/medium cities of great quality of life, beauty and history/culture – Tours, Dijon, Lorient, Amiens, Reims, Strasbourg, Orleans etc. I live in the UK and the city equivalents of the same size are places like Coventry, Stockport, Portsmouth, Hull etc – take a google map of those and get back to me!

    I think the truth is that France will do ok for a long time. Even 80% of euros is enough to keep things ticking over for a long time yet – and for sure, intermarriage allows the absorption of willing foreigners into the French ranks. On that side of my family I have three 2nd cousins with 1-2 grandparents from outside Europe but they pretty much look, act and feel French/euro. For me it’s enough. the size of the place also means that unlike Germany, U.K. or Benelux, you can still escape the problems for now

    Italy is the best for this category of small cities though – Verona, Siena, Bergamo citta alta, Pescara, Perugia, Latina, whatever the list is endless.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
    , @Matra
  74. Dmitry says:
    @AquariusAnon

    French civilization was already declining from First World War.

    The final lowest point, was Hitler’s invasion of France in several weeks, and walking parades of German soldiers along Champs-Elysees of Paris – which as a national humiliation, the confidence was never recovered from.

    I recommend to read a biography of man like Sartre, to see how strange 20th century history of France was, in any cultural and political level. And remembering that by time Sartre dies in 1980, he was already viewed “old fashioned”, insufficiently radical, relic of history by intellectual circles.

    In terms of standards of living, industry and high economic development, France’s high point was in a post-war epoch. But the high culture, was incredibly deep in nihilism and self-conflict at the same time already by the 1950s.

  75. AP says:
    @notanon

    the Indo-Europeans started in what is now Ukraine

    What is now eastern Ukraine, southern Russia, and parts of Kazakhstan.

    being so far inland

    This region borders the Black and Caspian Seas.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @notanon
  76. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @AP

    You just can’t help but continue to spill your tribal poison. It’s only a matter of time when you get what’s coming.

  77. @Dmitry

    It’s easy to point towards the stereotype of the nihilist, over-intellectualised French philosophers and the sentiment of national decline (and to be honest, I often do so myself – but currently I feel like defending the French a little).

    But how do you explain then the popularity and rise to power in the latter half of the 20th century of de Gaulle, a man so obviously patriotic, with a strong sense of destiny and will to power? How can one explain the hawks of the Academie Francaise (who are part of the high culture sphere), who defend the French language from Anglo incursions? How can one square the obsession at top government levels of promoting natalist policy with a culture of nihilist defeat?

    Not saying I disagree entirely, but I don’t think the French are these days particularly more nihilist than any other Westerners

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  78. @Daniel Chieh

    Interesting fact:

    In the original Wachowski brothers screenplay, the machines were using human brains as wetware CPU to solve the problems that human intelligence is good at.

    So, about as realistic as AI dystopias get.

    But the faggots responsible for sales scotched the idea because they argued people wouldn’t understand it, and replaced it with batteries.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  79. @Polish Perspective

    I don’t know much about IT but I can tell something about Ukrainian artisans. They disproportionately dominate Etsy, even though their government artificially keeps them behind by banning Paypal. It’s one of like 3 countries in the world where you’re not allowed to receive money from abroad via Paypal (you have to pass it through a middleman company), and in Russian-language handmade forums there are constant complaints about that idiocy. Stuff Ukrainians sell usually shows amazing skill and effort. Just a couple examples:

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/viktoriyasilk

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/BeadedJewelryVirunia

    It’s not an advertisement of my friends, I don’t know these women personally – but definitely wouldn’t mind if some of you supported them by buying.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  80. iffen says:
    @Swedish Family

    If it looks like a Nazi, swims like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, then it probably is a Nazi.

    You write this like it is a bad thing.

    Anyway, Thor can’t be a Nazi, he has a sense of humor.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  81. @Anatoly Karlin

    In the original Wachowski brothers screenplay, the machines were using human brains as wetware CPU to solve the problems that human intelligence is good at.

    It would have been interesting as the simulation would literally have the humans “puzzle solving” life situations which would then be valid for the AI harvesters. But of course, low IQ has to prevail.

  82. @Dmitry

    Germany is obviously more defeatist, nihilist, etc. than France today. Though many here would agree that French (relative) vigor is often misdirected.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Dmitry
  83. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    We don’t seem to have any French commenters. Why do you suppose that is? Don’t they care about saving humanity?

  84. Re-Ukrainian IQ.

    I originally guessed that it would be halfway between the Balkans and Russia, with a possibility that it was closer to the Balkan level. However, AP pointed out that the Ukrainian schoolchildren in the TIMSS results I based these guesstimates on were almost a year younger on average than Russians and Balkanites. Moreover, that recent study of Russian IQ shows historically Ukrainian heavy regions such as Stavropol, Krasnodar, and Primorye to only be a couple of IQ points behind the Russian average. So perhaps Ukrainian IQ is similar. A couple of IQ points behind Russia. Belorussia is probably similar to Russia. What paltry IQ tests have been carried out in Belorussia suggest that that is the case.

    Anyhow, both the Ukraine and Belorussia are participating in PISA 2018 for the first time. We’ll have a much better idea come December 2019.

  85. @iffen

    Guillaume Tell was great. I hope he’s doing ok. Alt Right writer Guillaume Durocher comments from occasionally.

    There’ve been a few active French commenters here in the past, though none are active at the present time.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  86. @Daniel Chieh

    If you don’t mind my asking, what is your approximate age range?

    I’m in my mid-30s, just like Thorfinnsson, so it’s not a generational thing.

  87. @Talha

    You have to be able to catch good-faith attempts at trolling on Internet forums. Too bad Greasy isn’t here, he was a fairly good extremist Jewish troller – would call all sorts of people subhuman while talking about their women being hot.

    Peace.

    Trolling can be that, sure, but this kind of dehumanizing speech is getting commoner here by the month — it’s pretty well background noise at this time — along with Nazi apologism.

    And Nazi apologism does say something about a person. A commenter over at Sailer’s blog, New Dealer, laid this out well a month ago:

    Hitler is the culture’s personification of evil, now, and long ago in the postwar years of my unlettered childhood. Later, as a young adult, I devoured mountains of political literature, from Ayn Rand to Karl Marx, including Mein Kampf. I was surprised to find that the text was not only evil but, to borrow an idea, banal. Mediocre, tedious, boring, inferior. And ever since I’ve known that anyone inspired by Hitler, seriously or ironically, is not just flirting with evil but is intellectually and spiritually stunted as well. That’s a good reason for people to try to read MK, I think.

    Reading the responses to Unz’s recent postings is educational as well. There are rational and debatable views, based on argument and evidence, about ethnocentricity, fair dealing, influence on foreign and immigration policies. But there is an atavistic racism from other commenters. The kind based on visceral revulsion, overgeneralization, dehumanization, and destructive malice. The kind we should all reject for the sake of social peace, but that has been dangerously trivialized by SJWs to win silly virtue points, for example by besmirching friendly people as Hitlerian for asking a new acquaintance where they are from. The actually irrational anti-Semites are obsessed, repetitive, tiresome, self-refuting; the “revisionists” are gales of pure nasty id clouded by capitalizations, obscure personal neologisms, and idiosyncratic epistemological principles. It’s probably best for a curious person to learn that on their own than it be forbidden fruit that one is only told about second-hand.

    Free speech needs to be defended, but Unz’s recent method of doing so “lacks elementary social skills” and is self-defeating. The meaning of a word or action is not just what one intends but also what others understand. To open a webpage full of heterodox views that headlines Mein Kampf has a social meaning, regardless of the poster’s intent. SJWs in bad faith constantly exploit the gap between personal intention and preposterously alleged social meaning in order to bully and dominate others. But whatever the eager amiability of your soul, if you tattoo your face with knives, dice, babes, and dripping blood, for some reason people will start staying away from you.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/a-most-expected-backlash/

    • Agree: AaronB, Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @Talha
    , @utu
  88. @Daniel Chieh

    And realistically, disturbing as it might be, you’ll probably get a government that’s matching sperm to artificial wombs, and raising children in creches before you actually get to coordinate people to have children in such a fashion.

    Introduce the straight no-braces-needed teeth gene and add high IQ in the package. Parents will line up for that.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  89. @iffen

    Anyway, Thor can’t be a Nazi, he has a sense of humor.

    And Göring didn’t?

    If I didn’t have a sense of humor, how could I stand this trial now?
    [Nuremberg, 27 May 1946]

    Thor apparently comes from Swedish nobility; my one connection with Swedish nobility was playing tennis regularly in Geneva with a member of a Swedish noble family that had a rather unfortunate link to Göring. I’m sure Thor knows who they are.

    • Replies: @iffen
  90. @Anatoly Karlin

    Guillaume Tell was great

    But he wasn’t French.

  91. Anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    White God syndrome still at work in India. Visited a medieval fortress and a group of Indian mohammedan women clad in black burkas came up my father and I giggling like school girls and begged to take photos with us.

    Cool man, got any more made-up stories for us?

  92. iffen says:
    @for-the-record

    Thor apparently comes from Swedish nobility

    I try not to hold that against him. For that matter, I do the same for some of the others that have problematic ancestry.

  93. @for-the-record

    Next scene: two chihuahuas of Russian gay rights activist living in exile in Salisbury die of Novichok poisoning in Putin-backed hate crime.

    Because the walruses weren’t enough:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/21/two-walruses-die-at-vladimir-putin-backed-oceanarium/

  94. DFH says:
    @iffen

    Probably has something to do with French not being very good at English, compared to other Euros outside of Southern Europe.

  95. Dmitry says:
    @Toronto Russian

    Lol I don’t we are the most likely demographic for buying Ukrainian embroidery.

    It’s interesting though. With exchange rate, this kind of Etsy business is probably very viable

    This one https://www.etsy.com/shop/BeadedJewelryVirunia

    700 sales over 3 years. I guess just Etsy sales could receive them around a national average income?

  96. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I’m not sure. But there are many different angles.

    For example, in France 35 hour working week. And industrial action to protest any attempt to reform labour market.

    I’m not sure Germany is perfect, but they can work 48 hours. They are not so famous for constant protesting.

    German philosophers and intellectual culture, seems less radical (again – this can be subjectively interpreted in different ways, as healthy or unhealthy).

    Even German modern art I don’t dislike strongly – like Anselm Kiefer and Gerhard Richter. It’s still a productive culture.

    Of the two countries, I think I would prefer to live in Germany for various reasons. (Actually German culture is still superficially attractive for me if I am honest).

    • Replies: @AaronB
  97. Neal says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Call me a conspiracy theorist but every time I heard Elon speak, I always thought of him as a spokesman for some major organization rather than an innovator. They not only selected him as a spokesman but also provided him with a strong braintrust that will guide him in his endeavors. People would say that he’s genuine because of his background and he’s not the smoothest in term of public speaking but, for me, that just make the fake more credible to the public.

    How much of his achievement that were credited to him are his actual work and how much are the result of a hidden braintrust, we really don’t know. I supposed his original work on Paypal is truly his own and it reflects his true personality of an introvert. After that either he underwent a major metamorphosis or some organization recruited him to be their frontman. They got him a makeover and completely change his image. They gave him free publicity everywhere even going as far as naming him as the inspiration behind Ironman. If his name is a product, then someone must have spent a fortune in promoting it.

    His accomplishments are phenomenal. He can multitask like crazy in managing multiple companies such as Tesla, SpaceX, The Boring Company (As an aside, I feel like this is a veil attack on his SpaceX competitor: The Boeing Company on multiple levels – devaluing their brand and attacking it as a boring, unimaginative company. At least for me the name association stuck: Boeing Boring, Boeing Boring), and projects such as Hyperloop. Not only from a high level but even involved himself in solving low-level technical manufacturing stuffs from rocket design to manufacturing the Model 3. He seems to have more than 24 hours in a day compare to a normal person because his energy is incredible. Either he’s truly a better modern day version of Nikolas Tesla or they are overselling their hand.

    I sense that he’s not “real” but I do like him as the spokesman and I do like his mission. All the things that Elon does, I wholeheartedly agree with. They make America stronger while weakening everyone else from Venezuela, Saudi, to Russia, to China, and in some respect even Germany and Europe. If all of his visions come true, America will always be great.

    For this very reason, I don’t buy Thorfinnsson’s (yours) thesis and all your negativity.
    I won’t short Elon. I go long on him.

    Then again I could be totally wrong and the guy is about to crash and burn (as evidences by all the latest crazy publicity stunts).

    =============================
    Either that or he’s from the future (because he remembers being in this simulation before).
    You can outsmart even the smartest if you already know what the future has been.
    I know, this theory is even weirder than the conspiracy theory. So, I put the odd as less than 1%.

  98. @Pumblechook

    What does it mean to be no more nihilist than other Westerners? The French are dying out.

    French people don’t have children, and the number of French people is therefore declining. The rate of decline will accelerate as each cohort of women of childbearing age gets smaller, as in Germany, Sweden, England, Italy, etc.

    • Replies: @Pumblechook
  99. @Toronto Russian

    Except that a very small percentage of parents are likely to be able to afford such genetic engineering. Most at least in the USA and Europe will be struggling to pay for food and housing, let alone good medical and dental care.

  100. ussr andy says:

    German philosophers and intellectual culture, seems less radical

    a writer said something to the effect that Germans are more indifferent wrt things like muhfreedom etc because unlike in France sh** just always worked.

  101. Talha says:
    @Swedish Family

    but this kind of dehumanizing speech is getting commoner here by the month

    OK – I cannot argue with this and the observations of that guy you quoted. I guess it doesn’t bother me as much for two reasons:
    1) I kind of consider myself as one of the out-group here so maybe I’m not so surprised by this kind of behavior (and even being at the receiving end) – I would go bonkers if I heard this kind of talk from Muslims- that would really piss me off!
    2) God will crush the racists in the end – the White to the Black – so there’s that…

    I see this more as a reflection of an extreme reaction to the push against Whites by the SJWs; my hope is that it will eventually die down and normalize once the pendulum starts swinging the other direction and Whites don’t feel under siege in the public sphere.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @iffen
  102. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    You should start writing for Weekly Standard and Ynet. Those are better places for you . Your ideas need to reach deplorables dregs of morons who inhabit the world of Breitbart ( of Tel Aviv ) who think in terms of IQ and see through the prism of the East European aspirations .

    The fascination with IQ shows the true East European animalism and lack of civility But also explains the relentless desires to join the Americanized world without succeeding towards contributing anything . Your entitlement to carve a niche for yourself in the thinking rational world of western civilization on the basis of looking white will not come to fruition . The focus on IQ will send your tribe and your family back to 1500 AD.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Daniel Chieh
  103. @Neal

    Or, he could just be a combination of brilliant and brilliant bullshitter. That’s an incredibly effective combination, though it usually leads to tears because very few such actors know when to stop.

    How familiar are you with Silicon Valley out of curiousity?

    • Replies: @Neal
    , @Anonymous
  104. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    Germans write more seemingly spiritual works, but they take themselves and life very seriously indeed. This heavy ponderous quality betrays lack of profundity.

    Since the essence of spirituality is frivolity, and that is the most intelligent and profound attitude one can take to life (everything else is childish illusion), I would have to say the French are more spiritual and intelligent than Germans.

    The grim, heavy, seriousness of the Germans, the seriousness of their striving, used to infuriate poor Nietzsche – he saw it as the quintessence of stupidity, anti-spirituality, and a childish inability to see past illusion. The sad irony is that later, poor Nietzsche himself became way too serious with his ridiculous Superman idea.

    One of my main criticisms of this fine blog is that so many here lack what the French call esprit, and have that ponderous heavy German lack of humor. People here actually get angry at me :)

    So in short – vive La France.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  105. @Neal

    Space X has a different CEO than Musk.

    The Boring Company has to date done more or less nothing. It “won” the bid to build a high speed rail link from the Chicago Loop to O’Hare. Said rail link will never be built (at least not by The Boring Company). Color me skeptical that Elon Musk will figure out how to dig a tunnel ten times faster than the Swiss can do it (remember the fully automated alien dreadnought with 20x linespeed?).

    Boeing is the most successful aerospace corporation in history and is once again outselling Airbus. The stock has doubled in price since 2017. Profits have doubled in five years. The Boeing 787 is the most revolutionary airliner since the Boeing 747 (long known to frequent flyers as The Queen of the Skies).

    In fact Boeing has a stunning list of aeronautical achievements:

    • Boeing Monomail–first cantilevered monocoque aluminum monoplane airliner
    • Boeing 247–first cantilevered monocoque aluminum monoplane airliner in commercial service
    • Boeing 314 Clipper–first transpacific flying boat
    • Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress–first four-engined heavy bomber
    • Boeing 307 Stratoliner–first transatlantic landplane airliner and first pressurized airliner
    • Boeing B-29–nuked Japan
    • Boeing B-52 (first intercontinental jet bomber)
    • Boeing 707–first successful jet airliner
    • Boeing 747–first jumbo jet and first wide-body airliner
    • Boeing 767–first twin-engine jet certified for transatlantic service
    • Boeing 777–first twin-engine jet with transpacific range
    • Boeing 787–first composite airliner

    And this is just Boeing. Boeing also acquired North American Rockwell (P-51 Mustang, XB-70 Valkyrie, B-1B Lancer) and McDonnell Douglas (as storied as Boeing until a generation ago).

  106. Dmitry says:
    @anon

    IQ test score studies are not very “East Europe”.

    I think the main interest and publication in this topic, is from America, precisely.

    Karlin’s historical destiny is probably to introduce this topic, or at least promote it more, in Russia.

  107. @anon

    The focus on IQ will send your tribe and your family back to 1500 AD.

    Time travel is how Mecha-Karlin conquers the world.

    • Replies: @DFH
  108. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Interesting, but not surprising, that you hold people here to a lower standard than your fellow Muslims. I guess I can understand that.

    Behavior of people here is understandable as an overreaction to anti-white sentiment, and Chinese people in the other thread to national humiliation etc.

    Lots if that going in these days, and you gotta cut people some slack.

    It would be nice though to see a genuinely superior reaction to these things though :) People who rose above the fray.

    But that would require high levels of frivolity, and the modern world simply doesn’t produce those kinds of superior people.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Talha
    , @Silva
  109. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    In lifestyle, there is a strong distinction – and the lifestyle of Latin countries is obviously distinct.

    But I’m not sure this “Latin vs German” distinction is so strong in the intellectual and written sphere.

    It’s not like e.g. Sartre’s philosophical texts are so much “lighter”, than some German-speaking contemporaries. And post-Sartre authors in France, become, often, even more difficult or heavy to read.

    French language, I do not know, and neither do I know German. But I try to read in Spanish. Generally, I find Spanish more “heavy and ponderous”, polysyllabic language, than English.

    English actually feels like a quite light language, at least for foreigners. And with this understanding of sarcasm and full of sense of humour (it’s also like this in Russian writing), which I guess might not be common in Latin languages.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @RadicalCenter
  110. @Pumblechook

    Portsmouth and Coventry were bombed to pieces during WW2 while most of France was spared that by surrendering early. There are plenty of great small towns and cities in the UK e.g. Stirling, Windsor, Solihull, Altrincham, Harrogate, Chester, Glossop, Durham, St Andrews, Bath etc.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Pumblechook
  111. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    The French Existentialists were influenced by German writers and were in some ways a symptom of the decline of French intellectual seriousness – they were no longer capable of frivolity. Although Camus had an elegant style.

    But if you read a writer like Mauppassant for example you will see a very different sendibility – one that is rarely found among German or English authors. Its inimitably French and achieves a sublime frivolity. He starts a book about aimlessly wandering the Med Sea on his small boat by saying he simply couldn’t stand the sight of the Eiffel Tower. A German would “explain” things.

    Some Irish writers, like Wilde, come close, and strangely, some Scandinavian writers, like Knut Hamsun, remind me of this French esprit. Also Conrad, a Pole.

    These differences aren’t racial, but civilizational – levels of profundity and penetration of the illusion of life rise and fall.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  112. iffen says:
    @Talha

    I would go bonkers if I heard this kind of talk from Muslims

    I think that you should reconsider this view in light of your attempt to balance the demands of your faith with allegiance to ‘Murica. It doesn’t do your faith any good any more than it does our country.

    America doesn’t benefit from overt racism and its public expression any more than it benefits from the war on whites.

    But that doesn’t really cover us here in the comment section. Nobody’s watching or listening to us except maybe a few GRU people keeping an eye on AK.

    • Replies: @Talha
  113. @RadicalCenter

    I don’t argue it – but I just don’t think the cliche of the nihilist French philosophe is particularly true or reflective of French national psyche more than others.

    But native French fertility hovers around 1.7 – the generational cohorts will become less small and more slowly than any other large Western European people, with only the English close behind.

    I closely follow birth rates across Europe (most nations are releasing stats on a monthly basis) and the situation is better than a few years before. Czech at 1.7, Slovaks/Hungarians/Poles over 1.5 for the first time since 1995, baltics around 1.7, Romanians the same. Russia is disappointing last 1-2 years but still hovers at 1.65

  114. utu says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    More French were killed by British/American bombings of France than British died because of German bombings.

    Actually by looking at the numbers and using French data one may wonder whether the official numbers of Germans killed by British/American bombings of Germany might be deflated unless British/American raids on France were much more effective in killing civilians than raids over Germany.

    Coventry is a flag ship of British propaganda on German atrocities. 568 people were killed in Coventry.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_France_during_World_War_II
    In all 1,570 French cities and towns were bombed by Anglo-American forces between June 1940 and May 1945. The total number of civilians killed was 68,778 men, women and children (including the 2,700 civilians killed in Royan)

    The cities that saw the most destruction were the following:

    Saint-Nazaire (Loire Atlantique): 100%
    Tilly-la-Campagne (Calvados): 96%
    Vire (Calvados): 95%
    Villers-Bocage (Calvados): 88%
    Le Havre (Seine-Maritime): 82%
    Saint-Lô (Manche): 77%
    Falaise (Calvados): 76%
    Lisieux (Calvados): 75%

  115. iffen says:
    @AaronB

    Exactly how many moonbeams in a jar have you carried home, AB?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  116. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    you hold people here to a lower standard than your fellow Muslims.

    I’ve been to my non-Muslim friends’ houses and seen liquor in the their cabinets or fridges – it’s not a huge deal.

    Whenever I’ve come across the same in a Muslim house, I have a visceral reaction and it makes me want to puke.

    I think this is one way that perhaps the cognitive dissonance is mitigated for someone, as myself, that genuinely leans a bit on the liberal side (at heart) when one considers oneself to be justifiably part of an exclusionary in-group; holding one’s group to a higher standard and expectations than one holds the out-group.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  117. @Ali Choudhury

    Yes of course – of those towns you list, I went to university in one and grew up 10 mins away from another. Uk indeed has a lot of such pleasant and bustling market towns.

    But these are towns and not cities of approx. 150-300k like the ones I mentioned. It is much more impressive for a city to retain charm and serious quality of life, as the possibility of mistakes being made greatly increases.

    In the UKs defence, I forgot Edinburgh, imo a world class small city

  118. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    No, I’m not really criticizing. It’s not so much “your group” as simply people who should know better, being exposed to Islam. And to the extent that it’s your group, it’s natural to care more.

    In theory, Judaism is supposed to work that way, in a perfect world. Perhaps it did, once.

    I similarly do not expect much from the serious people of the world :)

  119. AaronB says:
    @iffen

    Moonbeams in jars, iffen, would be a crime.

    • Replies: @iffen
  120. Talha says:
    @iffen

    It doesn’t do your faith any good any more than it does our country.

    I agree here. I never said I found it acceptable, it isn’t – from either side. In fact, it’s considered a variation on the sin and rebellion of Iblis (Satan). When God asked him why he refused to bow before Adam (as) as he was commanded to do this was his response:
    “He said, ‘I am better than him. You have created me from fire and him from clay.’” (38:76)

    I’m hoping I can provide an example through my actions and words of an alternative approach of how one can save one’s people from the identitarian poz alliance without going in the opposite direction.

    At the end of the day, I consider this forum to be a bit like Mr. Karlin’s club house – he decides who gets let in. Who am I to judge? If it was mine, things would be different.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  121. Matra says:
    @Pumblechook

    Italy is the best for this category of small cities though – Verona, Siena, Bergamo citta alta, Pescara, Perugia, Latina, whatever the list is endless.

    Bergamo is full of Africans. Leave the train, enter the station, and immediately there are African eyes – all male, all fairly young – on you, both to your left and right. Push through the doors into the Marconi piazza or whatever it’s called – across from the McDonald’s – and there are more Africans, in groups, sitting about checking out everyone who leaves the station. On streets in the lower town there are Africans standing alone, sometimes one on each side of lonely streets, babbling away on their phones but watching everyone who passes. Looking for targets, maybe?

    On the way from Bologna to Bergamo I noticed at even rural stations that our train went right through without stopping large groups of Africans hanging about with no seeming purpose. Salvini has a lot of work to do before medium-sized towns in Italy are anywhere near as European as they are in central and eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Pumblechook
  122. Mitleser says:
    @reiner Tor

    We live in the USSR 2.0, fellow EUropean citizen.

  123. iffen says:
    @AaronB

    Moonbeams in jars, iffen, would be a crime.

    And you claim to be spiritual. Pffftt!

  124. iffen says:
    @Talha

    That’s not in my Bible.

    • Replies: @Talha
  125. utu says:
    @Swedish Family

    Mein Kampf. I was surprised to find that the text was not only evil but, to borrow an idea, banal.

    I beg to differ. I do not think anybody even Hitler could top the banality of Sailer and Karlin who see the world as a string of numbers lined up on an axis. The world of Karlin and Sailer is one dimensional . Actually, on some occasions Hitler or whoever wrote his books have some good insights into the human nature and the workings of social forces.

    As far as the Mein Kampf and Hitler’s Second Book I do not find them really evil. In 1920s people in Europe talked and thought like Hitler. There is nothing extraordinary in Hitler. Unless if talking about other races and group of people in objectifying and instrumental way is especially evil. But if we adopted the Kant’s II Categorical Imperative as delineation between good and evil and extended it to the sin of talking then Karlin, Sailer and all the IQists here at UR would qualify as evil. Then there is more evil things said in one week on Karlin and Sailer blogs than in the whole of Mein Kampf.

    The person you cited (I looked his comments up) is an exceptionally pompous windbag who does virtue signaling all the time and signaling how smart he is like stating that some Jews told him he must be Jewish because gentiles do not come that smart.

  126. Talha says:
    @iffen

    I know, that’s why it’s in the Qur’an. ;)

    Peace.

  127. iffen says:
    @utu

    I don’t know why AK lets you comment here.

  128. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Frankly, I don’t know why he lets me comment here; he seems fairly open to publishing diverse views. That is a mark for him.

    Peace.

  129. @Thorfinnsson

    As I recall it is Herrenknecht AG which makes some ridiculous (75%?) of the world’s big deep tunnel boring machines, and it’s a German company based in the Rhineland.

    But I agree ofc, seems rather unlikely that Musk will make a quantum leap over the people who’ve been doing this for decades.

    PS. One thing I have mused about is the idea of atomic boring machines, though you’d need some serious cooling for that (pump in liquid nitrogen through an inbuilt heat exchanger?). If there’s any way to radically improve boring productivity there I suspect it’s somewhere along such lines.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @ThreeCranes
  130. @Swedish Family

    We need men like Thorfinnsson around; he makes the rest of us look like respectable moderates.

    • LOL: Talha
  131. utu says:
    @iffen

    Perhaps because just like Ron Unz he has high tolerance quotient and some perhaps misguided belief in freedom of expression. Ron Unz keeps you yet this is what he thinks of you:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/#comment-2409710
    Since 2015, he’s been one of the most frequent commenters on this website, averaging a couple of thousand comments per year, but generally rather bland and mediocre. I think he claims to be some sort of Christian Zionist living in the Deep South, which may or may not be correct. He certainly does defend Israel an awful lot, and mostly supports the Official Narrative but from a conservative direction. Okay.

    So we have a very prolific, pro-Israel commenter, who generally defends the Official Narrative but does so from a rightwing perspective, and attempts to ridicule elements of this highly controversial article by pretending to have read extremely long books he very clearly hasn’t.

    Presumably, he’s supplementing his meager Social Security or Disability checks by doing some commenting work for the ADL or the SPLC or that sort of thing…

    • Replies: @iffen
  132. Dan Hayes says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thorfinnsson:

    You have chronicled Boeing’s spectacular historical achievements. But on a down note, Eamonn Fingleton in a 2014 Forbes article opined that Boeing had given Japan its wing-making secrets, long regarded as its crown jewels.

    A question. Was this just a one-off or was it symbolic of Boeing’s eventual demise as a major entity? (BTW, Fingleton has apparently ceased being a UR contributor!)

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  133. Eighthman says:

    Russian joke:

    Putin walks through the Kremlin and encounters the ghost of Stalin. Stalin says, “I have two pieces of advice – kill your political opponents and paint the Kremlin blue !”

    Putin replies, “why blue?”

  134. KA says:
    @AquariusAnon

    What choice does Russia has in todays world? The system is pervasive ( neoloberlaism fragmentation
    and social atomization ) and it touches everybody from US to Sweden and from Papua New Guiene to remote place in Chad . No one can escape . Unless Russia – China come up with new economic financial ideas, the resistance is doomed that includes military resistance as well. The delivery of the same polices through new BRICKS Asian Bank or Chinese Belt and Road will not change the problems common folks are facing .

  135. @iffen

    We don’t seem to have any French commenters. Why do you suppose that is? Don’t they care about saving humanity?

    Most of them probably traffic French sites instead. There are some of them who will also do translations from English.

    http://grandfacho.com/articles-disponibles-en-francais-de-counter-currents-publishing/

    http://grandfacho.com/new-york-times-la-religion-de-la-blancheur-menace-la-paix-mondiale/

  136. iffen says:
    @utu

    Like I give a f*** what you, R. Unz, and the horses you rode in on think of me.

  137. @Dmitry

    English IS, in large part, a Latinate language.

    On one hand, the most commonly used, basic words in English are mainly Germanic words. But the great bulk of the entire vocabulary of the English language comes from Latin, not Germanic roots. There is a good short video on hooktube.com on this topic, from “Paul” of LangFocus.

    I appreciate your impressions of English, though, and your comments generally.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @anonymous coward
  138. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    Reflects elite culture of the writer probably, rather than intellectual attitude of average cattle in the country.

    Its inimitably French and achieves a sublime frivolity.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @AaronB
  139. Dmitry says:
    @RadicalCenter

    A large part of vocabulary in English, is from Latin origin.

    But the grammar is really different. And English generally, seems more informal. (And of course, English people themselves, seem to write with a lot more jokes and humor).

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  140. @Anatoly Karlin

    I brought up the Swiss owing to the Gotthard Base Tunnel. The Boring Company presently relies on Herrenknecht machines like everyone else.

    The use of atomic bombs for tunneling might well be feasible, though you still need to remove material which is a problem. I suspect hydraulic fracturing techniques could be scaled up for tunneling as well.

  141. Question to the Construction/Fitness Chads here

    I am looking to install a calisthenics unit at my apartment. Possibly to be followed by a weight bench in half a year, but not now.

    Which of these choices is best?

    (1) I don’t want to buy a horizonal/parallel bar combo machine that attaches directly to the wall.

    This model however hangs off hooks. Hang it up high, its a pull up machine. Hang it lower, and rotate 90 degrees, and you can do leg raises.

    Not much space to put it, but I’m thinking of placing it directly beneath the air conditioner. Pretty appropriate location.

    Disadvantage – takes up a bit of space. Also one guy into this stuff claims these complex units are liable to break catastrophically.

    (2) I like the idea of a Swedish wall (wall bar), but I don’t have the space for it in my main room. The walls on my balcony that are perpendicular to the windows are too soft for them; meanwhile, if I put them opposite the windows on my balcony, which has a solid concrete wall, I won’t have space to do leg raises from them, annulling one of their biggest features.

    (3) I can buy one of those selfstanding machines that have built in horizontal and parallel bars, and bars for pushups, and put it on the balcony parallel to the windows.

    Plenty of space in that direction, but I don’t like these self-standing machines. They tend to shake a bit. And some functions are only available at the back. My balcony is too narrow to be able to easily access the back.

    (4) Just an ordinary pull up bar at the entrance to my living room. Seems like a solid idea, even if a female friend says it will look like crap.

    (5) Adjustable horizontal bars, which can be folded up to save space.

    If I get them I’ll attach them to the concrete wall opposite the windows on my balcony. It will allow me to do those vertical pushups (how is that exercise called anyway?), but as I said, there’s no room on the balcony for leg raises. (The wall perpendicular to the windows can’t support those things either).

    Is it also possible to use these things as pull up bars? E.g., hang them not just at waist height, but 210 cm above as well. I see no reason why not but maybe I’m missing something.

    (6) Pull up bar with central support

    Classical pull up bars with two supports are too wide to fit on the concrete wall of my balcony. There’s only 80cm from the soft wall to the window between the main room and the balcony.

    However, I can also attach this specific pull up bar with central support 60cm-70cm along the concrete wall to the window. As above this will allow me to do pull ups on the balcony, but not just “inwards” ones like in 5, but the classic ones where the forearms face outwards.

    So my options are:

    (a) Buying (1) is cheap and will allow me to do all exercises including leg raises. But it occupies limited space in my main room and doesn’t look all that great tbh, and friend claims its not too reliable.

    (b) Selfstanding machine as in (3) is more expensive and will also allow me to do all exercises, and will make good use of the balcony. But having this beast in a narrow balcony will be awkward and I also plain don’t like them.

    (c) The balcony walls aren’t suited for supporting any of these structures, even Swedish walls (which mainly rest on the ground), because they are covered by 10cm worth of soft insulation.
    If you have any idea of how to make proper supporting walls out of them, then I’m all ears.
    In principle, shouldn’t it be possible to just create another wall out of concrete blocs (my balcony is solid concrete, it can support literal tons) and hammer the Swedish wall in?

    (d) 4 and 5, or 5 and 6, or 6 by itself. At least this will utilize the balcony somewhat. I still have no good use for it – and I have two of them.
    (The kitchen balcony is too small to be of any use for any of this).

  142. iffen says:
    @Dmitry

    rather than intellectual attitude of average cattle in the country.

    Just as well, we don’t write all that much anyway.

  143. @Dan Hayes

    Boeing has acknowledged that too much of the 787 was outsourced and that this was chiefly to blame for its unexpected delay in entering service. For the 777X program Boeing invested one billion dollars to produce the plane’s carbon-composite wings and wing box (which for the 787 are produced by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan) in a new 27 acre factory in Washington.

    Additionally, while the 787 outsourcing was excessive (and not only to Japan), the selection of Japanese companies as tier one vendors to American aerospace manufacturers should be understood as part of an American industrial strategy to prevent Japan from entering the wide-body airliner and fighter markets (though the idiot Dave Obey screwed up the latter by preventing the F-22 from being sold to the Japanese).

    The Japanese repay us in turn by ensuring that Japanese airlines exclusively source from Boeing, something which was quite useful in the ’00s when Boeing was asleep at the switch and Airbus overtook them. The Japanese are also keeping up their end of the bargain. They’ve entered the regional jet market, but are avoiding the big birds. These arrangements also involve technology transfer from Japan back to the United States (e.g. all Japanese technology developed for the FSX program was transferred to America).

    If the Europeans had been offered similar arrangements in the 1960s it’s possible that Airbus never would’ve come to be. And then there would still be an independent McDonnell Douglas company producing airliners, and Lockheed Martin might still be in the airliner business.

    The future competition to Boeing (and Airbus) will come from the joint Russian-Chinese venture to enter the market.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  144. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Was this triggered by the commenter that called you fat?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  145. @iffen

    No. This has always been my plan for when I moved into my own apartment.

    I am actually not overly concerned about my current state of being overweight. Extremely rapid weight loss is trivial given the right approach. Reverting to keto/IMF/cold exposure program from mid-October, I expect to be back at optimal levels by early spring.

  146. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    Probably somewhat true – the relationship between an elite and the people is complex and often antagonistic, but not entirely independent.

    There is an amusing Japanese syndrome where young people come to Paris having imagined it as an exquisite fairy tale based on elite culture only to suffer a mental breakdown upon encountering actual French people and Parisian conditions.

    And for some strange reason Czech people these days are converting to Judaism and studying it in college – I remember a few years ago in Israel meeting these poor idealistic Czechs who were visiting Israel after studying Judaism in college and being stunned by how unintellectual and physical it was. They had expected Kafka

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @RadicalCenter
  147. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I never had one of these.

    But personally I would have the one with a punching bag – so you can practice boxing as well. (maybe not convenient for apartment size though)

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  148. Dan Hayes says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thorfinnsson:

    Thanks for your most informative response to my query.

  149. @Dmitry

    You’re right on both counts.

  150. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    We discussed about the Japanese syndrome in Paris here before. I probably was the one who told you about this.

    I feel like this when I first visited Paris. I was about 8 years old, and the whole area of Paris were in was half Arab people.

    Even aside from the Muslim people (who I remember we were saying, were actually more friendly for us there than the real French) – I don’t think the Japanese are reacting negatively to French cattle.

    French elite are just as snobby or rude, as French cattle. People are not more friendly in Deauville. I remember an old French woman who we rented a house from for a few days, and when we gave her back keys, she was shouting at us for no reason.

    I appreciated Paris more when I visited as a teenager. It is kind of spectacular piece of territory, if you explore it without preconception it should be like Disneyland or anything romantic.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Thumbhead
  151. @AaronB

    Judaism is a racial supremacist ideology mixed with both profound, beautiful observations, practically useful rules for living, and absurdities.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @AaronB
  152. iffen says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Judaism is a racial supremacist ideology

    Really. Is it the same as WN racial supremacist ideology?

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @RadicalCenter
  153. @Dmitry

    I think punching bag is mainly for illustration purposes. Main point of those things is that you can attach all sorts of other things to them.

    My main concern is that my main room is crowded enough as it is (bed, sofa, coffee table, my office, bookshelves). Having the exercise station there too would be hardcore.

    Especially since I have yet to figure out what to do with either of the two balconies, both of which I had insulated.

  154. Thumbhead says:

    Come on, Hitler was an incredibly dull monomaniac bore. His writing is almost unreadable. “Hitler’s Table Talk” makes him seem even duller and dumber, given his obsessive ranting about Czechs being racially Mongolian and why vegetarianism made the ancient Romans so powerful. He wasn’t any smarter than a /pol/ shitposter.

    Trevor-Roper correctly points out that Hitler’s unique genius was his extreme willpower, not his dull trashy 4chan-level ideas.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Hyperborean
  155. @Anatoly Karlin

    FWIW I’m currently trending strongly towards (d).

    In particular, the classic entryway pull-up bar (4) and perhaps the adjustable horizontal bar for the balcony (5).

  156. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    I read about before I was on this site. Its well known phenomenon.

    The truth is nothing lives up to our fantasies or expectations, or at least, not in the ways we expect them to.

    I had fantasies about “spiritual” India before my first visit that were ludicrously out of touch with what the place is actually like. But in a completely different and unexpected way, I did eventually find something if what I was looking for there.

    Maybe the Japanese did too, with Paris. I like Paris and French culture, but Haussman criminally destroyed the charm of old Paris in my view. People raved about Paris in the 19th century because with its wide geometric boulevards and lighting, it was perhaps the first modern, rational city. But my tastes run to the gothic, the medieval, the crooked.

  157. AaronB says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Sort of. There’s some truth to that, but its complicated.

    Someone born Jewish can make the best of it and emphasize the beauty in it. But I think there are better spiritual traditions to convert to, if one is dissatisfied with modernity. But who knows – perhaps not for some people. Each religion seems uniquely adapted to specific mindsets.

  158. DFH says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    That was literally the plot of Empire Earth, except the nationalist ruler of Russia only had to send himself back in time after he had already conquered Earth and needed to defeat the robotic alter-ego he had created

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
  159. notanon says:
    @AP

    What is now eastern Ukraine, southern Russia, and parts of Kazakhstan.

    right – from Ukraine to the southern Urals

    This region borders the Black and Caspian Seas.

    yes you’d think so but

    https://www.unicef.org/ukraine/activities_11389.html

    National research conducted in 2003 by the Ministry of Health Care of Ukraine with support from UNICEF and USA Centre for Disease Control confirmed mild iodine deficiency in population in the whole territory of Ukraine. 80% of children are born and develop in conditions of iodine deficiency without consuming necessary amount of iodine with food.

    i was thinking it might be due to distance from the oceans (hence inland) but maybe it’s something else, rainfall, wind direction? – either way it’s a big problem in Ukraine.

  160. notanon says:
    @Swedish Family

    If it looks like a Nazi, swims like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, then it probably is a…

    fed.

    • Agree: Rosie
  161. @Anatoly Karlin

    I’d go with 4 and 5. Pull-up exercises are excellent.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  162. Proposal:

    Russia should grow the population of Caucasians and have more of them go to Moscow.

    Moscow has become too SWPL, and not hooligan enough. If Caucasians can be 30% of Moscow but with the precondition they disavow Islam and replace it with Money as their sole religion, they can really spice up Moscow by making it a haven of street racing, hooliganism, good music, world class nightlife, and plastic surgery hotties in 6 inch heels.

    Rich Anglophile SWPL Russians won’t even need to worship London in this case. They can have the sports cars, hooligans, and luxury stores in their own backyard.

    This should also spread to St. Petersburg. Need more Caucasian rap/house gangster hooligans and their plastic surgery babes there too.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    , @Dmitry
  163. @Anatoly Karlin

    Just join a gym. A gym in a prole commie block area of Moscow that has heavy weightlifting/bodybuilding focus should have lots of like-minded dudes politically.

    They will likely not agree with Sinotriumph, yellow fever, Indian food, and transhumanism though.

  164. @AquariusAnon

    Transhumanism is the ultimate chad.

  165. @AquariusAnon

    This piece of satire is a lot cleverer than your based brutalist architecture comments.

  166. Dmitry says:
    @AquariusAnon

    When blacks have an opportunity, they also like London.

  167. @Dmitry

    Song too cringey m8.

    Timati 4 Mayor of Moscow, and have the Mercedes Benz logo be the new Moscow Coat of Arms.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  168. @Dmitry

    Talking about Russian/Caucasian music, here are 2 of my favorite jams:

  169. And this dude of course, an Armenian immigrant to Rostov-on-Don:

    • Replies: @AP
  170. AP says:
    @AquariusAnon

    Don’t forget Krematoriy, I saw them in Moscow in the late 90s, incredible show.

    (not from the show I went to, it was in some casino)

  171. anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polish Perspective

    China is interesting. This is important for reasons beyond pure economics:
    1. Crisis among middle class Chinese–collapse of PTP lending.
    2. Thick Face/Black Heart. This is more of an issue than the government. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KG18Ad02.html
    3. China’s desire for same thing– more self reliant. Want reform of state owned enterprises. Like Russia was helped in many ways by sanctions.

    There is no way there. won’t be plenty of unintended consequences.

    • Replies: @Silva
  172. Max Payne says:
    @Swedish Family

    He’s not serious. Shooting them means wasting bullets. Clearly he meant “…drowned”.

  173. Neal says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Brilliant?
    I can believe it if he can manage to master 1 area of expertise (software) but if you’re telling me that he is so brilliant as to master multiple areas all at the same time (software, automotive, space, mass transportation, tunneling, etc…) then that’s unbelievable. Truly, I don’t think that he’s the mastermind behind SpaceX. Of course, the question is if not him, who then? Would we be able to tell if we look at the ownership of SpaceX? And why would that person or persons stay silent and let Elon took all the credit?

    Brilliant bullshitter?
    What are his bullshit?

    I argued that his promises (affordable electric cars, lowering the cost of access to space, 5 years manned moon mission, Mars mission, etc…) are all achievable but those achievements are not due to his own effort.
    You argue that his existing achievements are real but his long term promises are fake – essentially vaporware. We won’t get affordable electric cars, reusable rockets, moon mission, Mars mission, etc… We will get broken dreams.

    Already we disagree on what’s possible and who’s doing the actual work.

    As to Silicon Valley…
    Why do you ask? Do you have some inside knowledge about Silicon Valley that only the locals would know about? What are these insights? Are you implying that he’s the male version of Elizabeth Holmes?

    Whatever it is, we won’t have to wait long to find out. He has actual deadline to deliver.

  174. Yevardian says:
    @Pumblechook

    Bordeaux is full of Arabs these days. When you get mistaken for one it’s quite unpleasant.

  175. Yevardian says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Speaking of which, I came across a link to this quite unfortunate email exchange between Mr. Unz and David Cole on Greg Cochran’s blog:
    “Using his usual analytical methods, Ron has discovered that the Jews of Europe, during WWII, were sent off to live on a farm in the country.”

    http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/5908

    I can’t vouch for the veracity of it, but.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  176. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Anatoly,

    Join a gym with weight machines and follow the routine Tim Ferriss did to gain 34 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks with just two 30-minute workouts per week, for a total of 4 hours of gym time over those 4 weeks. The routine is high intensity using machines rather than free weights.

    Since you have an experimentalist streak and also lots of other interests that take time, I think you might find high intensity training appealing compared to traditional high volume free weight training involving hours in the gym each week.

    See here:

    https://tim.blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/

    And Ferriss’ comment here:

    https://tim.blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/#comment-94869

    • Disagree: reiner Tor
  177. Neal says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    I’m not sure why you went off on a tangent from Elon to Boeing. I’ve been a Boeing shareholder for a long long time so I already knew about the company. Aerospace is the only manufacturing area where the US still remain dominant. I knew way early on that Boeing’s 787 point-to-point business model is superior to the Airbus 380 hub-and-spoke model (I meant who want to be herd like cattle squeezed onto a huge plane?). Boeing’s success is not just because the 787 is a superior product (it is) but because it’s part of a superior business model.

  178. @Matra

    Fair enough, I was there last in 2010. And not only did I not see any blacks, I spent great evenings in a bar with what turned out to be the son of the local lega nord chieftain. So I have warm memories of the place.

    Brescia on the other hand…c’erano dappertutto neri

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  179. Anonymous[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    The anti-Musk sentiment derives from envy. Musk is one of the few public figures and businessmen today who actually builds things. Most prominent businessmen today are media moguls, financiers, in software, logistics, etc. or just managing some large sclerotic bureaucracy. Most ordinary employees are in services. And most businessmen and MBAs who think they’re hot stuff and Masters of the Universe are just paper pushers and glorified accountants. So when someone who actually builds things rises to prominence, it exposes people, both to themselves and to others, that they’re just bean counters staring at Excel spreadsheets all day. It’s emasculating.

  180. Chutzpah:

    U.S. sanctions China for buying Russian fighter jets, missiles

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Trump administration imposed sanctions on the Chinese military on Thursday for buying fighter jets and missile systems from Russia, in breach of a sweeping U.S. sanctions law punishing Moscow for meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

    The U.S. State Department said it would immediately impose sanctions on China’s Equipment Development Department (EDD), the branch of the Chinese military responsible for weapons and equipment, and its director, Li Shangfu, for engaging in “significant transactions” with Rosoboronexport, Russia’s main arms exporter.

    The sanctions are related to China’s purchase of 10 SU-35 combat aircraft in 2017 and S-400 surface-to-air missile system-related equipment in 2018, the State Department said.

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-russia-sanctions/u-s-sanctions-china-for-buying-russia-war-planes-missiles-idUKKCN1M02UM

  181. @Anatoly Karlin

    Can you do proper pull-ups with (4)? I remember once trying it and the door frame prevented me from achieving full range of motion, which is quite important. So I wouldn’t choose (4) unless the door is tall enough to allow for a proper upper position.

    Of course (1) looks the best, but if it’s not reliable (I bet you there are reliable ones depending manufacturer etc., but sometimes it’s difficult to find, and not just in Russia), or you don’t have room for it, then you can buy the other ones.

    (4)+(5) looks attractive, because you can do dips and pull-ups, but dips are not nearly as important as pull-ups, so if I had to compromise, I’d go for (6) alone. But you wrote (5)+(6) was an option, too, so then it’s superior to (4)+(5), in my opinion.

    Ultimately, a lot depends on how and how much you will use your equipment. Even (4) is not totally useless.

  182. @Daniel Chieh

    In my experience (4) doesn’t allow for full range of motion.

  183. @RadicalCenter

    Your comment has 63 words, and of them I counted 14 of Latinate origin. So about 25%.

    English is not a Latinate language, it’s a creole. So is, for that matter, Mandarin.

    (Yeah, I know that modern linguistics define “creole” as “a language spoken by brown people”. Don’t listen to them, they’re idiots.)

  184. @Neal

    Airbus 380 (who wants to be herd like cattle squeezed onto a huge plane?)

    The 787 is probably better than the A380, but it’s not because the A380 was uncomfortable, because it’s not. The huge airplane has the advantage of being spacious, the A380s I’ve flown on (cattle class only) were all among the most comfortable planes ever. (Qatar Airways, Emirates, Etihad, Singapore Airlines, and maybe another one I’ve forgotten.) I always travel cattle class, but I think business should depend more on the operator than on the plane manufacturer.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  185. @Anonymous

    Musk is one of the few public figures and businessmen today who actually builds things.

    Lol. Really? Name one thing he built.

    (The rescue “”submarine”” doesn’t count.)

  186. Daniel.I says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    A bit of unsolicited advice.

    Instead of a bench, you might want to consider a power rack.

    Squats, shoulder presses and good mornings are FAR more useful than bench presses (which I’ve come to regard as an auxiliary exercise, definitely not a primary lift).

    EDIT – Another thing to keep in mind is that if you have poor shoulder mobility (which pretty much all desk jockeys do – not to mention plenty of actual athletes), bench presses and pull-ups will only make it worse.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  187. @Daniel.I

    I agree about the usefulness of the power rack vs. the bench, and I’d add that the bench press could be replaced with the floor press, which is a similar exercise using the same muscles (though of course different in a number of ways).

    bench presses and pull-ups will only make it worse.

    All exercises exacerbate mobility problems if you don’t stretch afterwards. The solution is to stretch your muscles after workouts, which has the additional benefit of shortening recovery time and improving your strength gains. You also need to do some mobility exercises. (Before or after your workouts, or in separate sessions, it doesn’t matter, the more you do the better, at least until some reasonable frequency like once a day is reached.)

    The pull-up is one of the most essential exercises, while you also need to do some kind of presses, and with bad shoulder mobility, the bench press and the floor press are good options. The military press needs to be added later, once mobility is improved.

    • Replies: @Daniel.I
  188. neutral says:
    @Thumbhead

    Let me guess, you have never read Mein Kampf but know its a bad book because you were told it was bad. Hitler had a great mind, he had the right instincts and right ideas on most things, if you are going to nitpick some trivialities like his views on vegetarianism then you are going to struggle to find any historical figure that passes your test.

  189. DFH says:
    @neutral

    Hitler had a great mind, he had the right instincts and right ideas on most things

    Shame he didn’t have the ‘right instinct’ on knowing that it was time to stop with Czechoslovakia

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Thorfinnsson
  190. @Thumbhead

    “Hitler’s Table Talk” makes him seem even duller and dumber, given his obsessive ranting about Czechs being racially Mongolian and why vegetarianism made the ancient Romans so powerful.

    But think about all the blonde Deep Ecology chicks!

  191. E says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Not about this specifically, but something else potentially useful that I learned from a guy I worked for who’s quite fit…

    Buy a bicycle air pump (not a super-tiny portable one, but a regular that stands upright, with that upside-down T to put your feet on). Tie the hose in a knot to increase the resistance, and pump (with both hands). It’s a surprisingly efficient way to work up a sweat quickly and feel good, is good back/shoulder exercise, and is small enough to be carried around to different places easily.

    The way it was told to me is that he once had to inflate some tires for his car, discovered that it was really good exercise, and spent the rest of the month inflating his car’s tires then releasing the air, greatly confusing his neighbours. After a while, he realized that all he actually needed was a bicycle pump with a knot tied in the hose. He carried it around with him everywhere and did a quick workout whenever he felt the need.

    As for other sorts of exercise, are there no 24-hour gyms near where you live? Where I live, some of them (e.g. Fit4Less) cost as little as $10/month.

  192. @Neal

    Well, that and the A380 being conceived and built when oil prices were low.

    To be fair to Airbus, the A320neo has been very popular.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  193. Daniel.I says:
    @reiner Tor

    I do not agree.

    The best mobility builder I know of is the press in snatch.

    Snatch presses are the first thing one should do to fix posture problems.
    Along with barbell rows and wide-grip deadlifts.

    And I’m not saying that pull-ups are not good – I’m saying that good shoulder mobility is a pre-requisite.

  194. @neutral

    I read Mein Kampf from cover to cover and can confirm it was a crap book. At least there’s less meandering pontification in the Turner Diaries.

    The only mildly interesting part was Hitler’s take on Russia’s ethnogenesis.

  195. LondonBob says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Apparently some Boeing executive read that peak oil book and so cutting fuel cost for the 787 was prioritised. Of course they then managed to push the envelope on design.

    Does Boeing still have a big R&D centre in Russia?

  196. notanon says:
    @DFH

    how much of that was based on expansionism and how much based on a fear/belief that the Soviets would attack if/when they were strong enough?

  197. @Yevardian

    I can’t vouch for the veracity of it, but.

    Thanks for the reference, an interesting exchange, I have no doubt it’s real (except obviously that Cole did not send his final contribution, which is there for all to read however).

    • Replies: @utu
  198. neutral says:
    @iffen

    Really. Is it the same as WN racial supremacist ideology?

    Judaism celebrates its past genocidal acts against others as religious holidays, you ever come a across a white nationalist who does that?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @iffen
  199. @anonymous coward

    Your comment has 63 words, and of them I counted 14 of Latinate origin. So about 25%.co

    Look at the nouns/adjectives and verbs of Latinate origin in your reply:

    comment, counted, Latinate, origin, %, Latinate, language, creole, matter, modern, linguistics, define, creole, language, people, idiots

    And one could also include mandarin as well, since English imported it from Portuguese.

  200. notanon says:

    @akarlin88
    On the ground, I feel Russian economic recovery is accelerating. Cafes, restaurants packed again – need to make reservations (empty when I arrived in late 2016). Yandex Taxi rides are ce

    side effect of sanctions preventing foreign corporations using Russia for cheap labor?

    one of the things common to all the rust belt towns is how small a percentage of the total economy was made up by the manufacturing element – most of the economy was the factory workers giving their wages to the bakers, butchers and barbers and the butchers giving that money to the barbers and bakers etc i.e. the *same money* circling round inside the local economy – so the most important part of economics isn’t the money-in-money-out part (MIMO) it’s maximizing the velocity of money inside the economy.

    (the MIMO part is necessary to kick-start the process but once the plates are all spinning it’s a relatively small percentage of the total prosperity)

    it would be funny if the sanctions on Russia disproved neoliberal economics

    #

    which might imply all a national-minded industrial economy needed to worry about was bringing in enough money to pay for their raw materials (and that both USA and China could have a middle class economy and both be better off if they could leash the cheap labor lobby)

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @utu
  201. @Silva

    But Gurowski doesn’t rise above the fray, he merely exchanges one set of emotional connections for another set.

    Also:

    ”England in 1861 was a hardcore reactionary power, the most evil, far-right country in Europe, and getting our ideas from there meant we were tapping a tainted source.”

    ???

    • Replies: @DFH
  202. DFH says:
    @Hyperborean

    John Dolan is a crazy anti-Anglo taig.

  203. Silva says:
    @anon

    On the author of the http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KG18Ad02.html article:

    “Born Jewish and married to a Muslim princess, Cohen addresses religious and civic groups on “Muhammad Cohen’s Jewish Identity” and is a global advisor to New Foundations for Peace, building bridges between Muhammads and Cohens.”

  204. iffen says:
    @neutral

    you ever come a across a white nationalist who does that?

    No, but afaik they don’t have anything to commemorate.

    • Replies: @notanon
  205. @iffen

    Whatever complaints and anomosities I might have toward some people of other races, I wasn’t taught and don’t believe that they are donkeys who were specifically put here by God to serve us. Contrast the Jewish attitude.

    • Replies: @iffen
  206. notanon says:

    China

    seems to me when you have a 2nd world nation that is capable of being 1st world but was previously held back by something or other there’s an almost unlimited scope for high return investment upgrading their economy however as it gets closer to 1st world status eventually those upgrade opportunities will start to dry up but (cos human nature) the investors won’t want to believe the times of exceptionally high returns are coming to an end and so they will continue to invest eventually creating some kind of asset bubble which will burst causing a downturn for some amount of time.

    i don’t know if China is near that point yet but it seems inevitable that it will go through that phase eventually – although on its own i don’t think it will turn out to be more than a speed bump but given the scale of the potential asset bubble it might be a speed bump that lasts a decade or two.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  207. notanon says:
    @iffen

    nations tend to commemorate what they perceive as defensive victories against what they perceive as an existential threat e.g. Trafalgar, Teutoberg forest, Poitiers etc

    like

    “hey dudes these Seleucid conquerors are being too tolerant and people are assimilating – we need to massacre some of them to provoke a reaction”
    a little later
    “we did it, yay us”
    time rolls on
    “hey dudes these Roman conquerors are being too tolerant and people are assimilating – we need to massacre some of them to provoke a reaction”
    a little later
    “holy f**k we overdid it!”

  208. iffen says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Contrast the Jewish attitude.

    Few Jews believe this.

    FWIW, I know some Evangelicals who still believe that blacks bear the mark of Cain.

  209. @Neal

    You brought up Boeing which is why. I feel compelled to defend the honor of “traditional” manufacturing corporations in the automotive and aerospace industries because of all the ridiculous claims that Musk has made them obsolete. Like Boeing and Toyota are just clueless fools who can’t compete against the almighty Silicon Valley.

    To be clear unlike many Tesla bears I am not a Musk hater. He truly is a brilliant, talented visionary who has shaken up and changed two of the world’s flagship industries.

    Agree that the reason for the 787′s success is that it serves a superior business model to what the A380 was intended for. A380 survives on serving the legacy “superconnector” business model using the Persian Gulf to bridge Europe and Asia (Turkey now trying to horn in on this at exactly the wrong time).

    I suspect Boeing just got lucky here honestly–they could’ve certainly done a 747X, and McDonnell Douglas was plotting an aircraft very similar to the A380 back in the 1990s.

  210. @Pumblechook

    Frightening that the place has changed so much for the worse in those intervening eight years. But no longer surprising.

  211. @anonymous coward

    If I endeavor to employ more complicated and putatively “sophisticated” verbiage, though, the sentence quickly becomes predominantly Latinate ;)

  212. @Anonymous

    Short case for Tesla remains the same whether or not Musk is CEO. No path to profitability in the world’s most capital-intensive and competitive heavy industry. Decision to build the Model 3 doomed the enterprise. The company’s inability to deliver reliable products and provide proper after sales service compounds the problem. Capital markets eventually abandon cash incinerators.

    A “traditional” CEO instead of Musk might’ve prevented unfortunate investigations by the SEC and Department of Justice admittedly.

    I won’t deny that a fair number of Tesla bears personally do hate Elon Musk. That said it’s somewhat common for bears to get emotionally invested.

    Musk deserves credit for upending two industries and reviving public companies as an entrepreneurial growth model. Tesla products, while flawed, are innovative and beloved by many customers.

    Last point–at the end of the day, the goal of a business enterprise is to deliver a profit. Elon Musk himself clearly cares about this since he awarded himself a compensation package theoretically worth $50 billion (lol).

  213. Thumbhead says:
    @neutral

    I’ve read Mein Kampf from cover to cover and it sucks. Hitler’s writing is dull in the way of all ponderous Victorian political tracts, made even duller by his bizarre monomaniac obsessions. The purple prose and overwriting makes it almost unreadable. There’s a rambling 14 pages about syphilis in the book’s middle. Anyone who’s read Mein Kampf knows it’s an unreadable shitbook, unless you’re a dimwitted WN. It’s like thinking Marx was a great writer.

    Or maybe you agree with Hitler that the galaxy is really made of ice, that Croats are Teutonic, and that Czechs are mongoloids with Fu Manchu mustaches.

    (Dictators tend to be rambling bores – Lenin was also incredibly dull and pedantic, with awful literary tastes. The dreadful “Chto Delat” was his favorite book)

  214. @reiner Tor

    I have yet to flow either since these types largely don’t fly on transatlantic and North American routes.

    The 787 has higher air pressure (equivalent to 6,000 feet instead of 10,000) and humidity (35% instead of 5%) and thus is reported to be quite comfortable. But the A380, as you noted, is huge.

    Gulf/Asian operators use the A380 to provide super premium first class products not viable on smaller airliners. But I’m skeptical of the long-term viability of super premium first class (or any kind of first class at all) given that lay-flat beds are the default in long-haul business class now and the the growing trend of fractional ownership of private jets (e.g. NetJets, a Berkshire Hathaway company). Luftwaffe also offers its own private jet service with prices no different than first class on Gulf carriers.

    I am skeptical of the long-term viability of any of the Gulf “superconnector” carriers other than Emirates (since Dubai is itself a destination). Granted, they have some other advantages like non-union labor and a lower cost of capital.

    Current trend in carriers who still offer first class is to offer more services at the ground level. Dedicated concierge, luxury arrival lounges, limos, etc. Doesn’t seen ground breaking to me. Business class already offers you shorter security lines and decent lounge access. Even cattle class passengers can get this for 50-100 Dollars.

    For those of you who haven’t flown business class simply ask if you can purchase an upgrade at the airport. If seats are available they’ll sell it to you for a reasonable price (I paid $600 to Air France for a transatlantic upgrade).

  215. @DFH

    According to David Irving the H-man’s visit to the Luftwaffe’s technical research center in July, 1939 convinced him to press for maximalist demands on Poland rather than to pursue a more limited revision which had traditionally been supported by Britain and America.

    Of course, there was also the problem that after devouring the rump of Czechoslovakia Britain no longer believed he was negotiating in good faith and was determined to go to war (as was America). And Germany was approaching bankruptcy.

    Then there’s the matter that not going after Poland would’ve left Germany dangerously dependent on the Soviet Union while Britain and America used their vast resources to build up superior forces.

    Reality is Germany had a weak hand to play and decided to bet the farm on one big gamble to become a continental superpower. The alternatives to this were European integration or becoming a prosperous American satellite. Both were pursued by Weimar Germany, but didn’t succeed owing to French (reparations) and American (debt repayment) demands.

    In the end these alternatives were pursued successfully by postwar Germany, made possible by America not insisting on making a profit (as it did in the 1920s) and restraining the French . The situation of Germany and Europe today more or less vindicates the apocalyptic prophecies of the German extreme right from the interwar period. Western Europe is now an American vassal under the domination of “Jewish” plutocracy or whatever.

    • Replies: @Thumbhead
  216. @neutral

    Vegetarianism isn’t really a trivial issue. It’s objectively wrong nutritionally and offensive ethically (animals exist to serve us). And the H-man was an enthusiastic proponent of industrial seed oils, which have turned out to be a health disaster.

    In fairness much less was known in his time about the nutritional issues, but that still leaves the ethical dilemma of worshipping animals.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @neutral
    , @Mr. Hack
  217. @Anatoly Karlin

    Zweites Buch is a lot better. He learned a lot in four years.

    That said not really that noteworthy either except that it’s by the H-man. Fits well within the main currents of the post-Bismarck German right. As far back as the 1890s German thinkers were musing about German troops on the Volga. And even Bismarck believed the 20th century was America’s to lose.

    Gustav Stresemann, usually portrayed as a good guy in modern German historiography, was an enthusiastic proponent of the Tirpitz program, unrestricted u-boat warfare, annexing Belgium, etc.

  218. Talha says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    The H-Man was a vegetarian??!! What the hell??!! And he wanted to rule the Germans??!!

    Peace.

  219. @notanon

    Neoliberalism is an ideological term rather than an economic one. And neoliberalism has largely been proved correct on, say, SOEs. Look at the dismal performance of most SOEs everywhere, including in Russia and China. Russia also followed the neoliberal playbook to suppress inflation–unqualified success.

    They’re are completely wrong on trade however. Comparative advantage applies only to fixed factors of production, and the efficiency gains of international trade are much smaller than economists expected and don’t even exist for larger markets.

    This has been quantified in some areas. E.g. Britain found that its per unit airliner production costs were about 10-20% higher than American manufacturers owing to shorter production runs. Airbus solved that. Scaling beyond that would provide no efficiency gains.

    Offshoring effectively did nothing to improve efficiency and simply had a re-distributive effect. Woops.

    Neoliberalism is also very wrong about money/finance, though red diaper baby blockheads like Michael Hudson are even more wrong.

    • Replies: @notanon
  220. @notanon

    The return on investment (to investors, not the economy) is typically quite poor as well as investors overpay for growth stories. Return on invested capital in China is poor. Situation was similar in the previous East Asian growth stories.

    Land values tend to rise sharply, and since capital markets aren’t well developed in emerging economies that comes to constitute most of the wealth and speculative activity. Eventually you get a crash and a banking panic. Or several.

    Economy then reforms and continues to grow at a slower rate.

    Japan had the good luck that this didn’t happen to them until they already converged. South Korea had it happen prior to their full convergence, though they have recovered decently.

    • Replies: @notanon
  221. @iffen

    No effort is pointless: it can always be held up as a bad example for others.

    • Replies: @iffen
  222. On Airlines:

    Its not the airplanes that matter the most, but how the airline configures them. Any airline that does 3-4-3 in their 777s make their plans uncomfortable af, but 3-3-3 is easily one of the most comfortable economy classes ever. I’m a big fan of Airbus A350s though. Very comfortable. The CRJs obviously are terrible, especially the 50-seat CRJ-200s. Even a 1 hour 45 min flight on it was torture.

    The Gulf airlines won’t become obsolete unless the Indian carriers really step up their game. I do see them being down to 3, with Turkish Airlines, Emirates, and Qatar Airways playing second (third) fiddle.

    For Europe to China connections, Aeroflot can really cash out on that, provided that blackpilled EU sanctions don’t take place, and some reset with Russian relations happen (If the US REALLY decides to take on China Cold War bipolar world-style, this might be the only option they have). I know LOT Polish Airlines is trying to get OBOR funds to build a huge airport 45 km from Warsaw to compete with that. The Polish plan is dumb though, as that airport has to be 25 km from Warsaw at the very max, must be close enough for people to take taxis directly from the airport to the city without destroying their wallets. If Chopin doesn’t close, that airport is gonna be moot anyways.

  223. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    it can always be held up as a bad example for others

    No doubt and I agree completely, but isn’t there some sort of limit on how many bad examples are needed?

  224. @AquariusAnon

    No shortage of direct flights from Europe and even America to India now.

    What exactly is the value proposition of Gulf carriers on Indian routes? Coolie labor? I suppose that makes some sense.

    Indians carriers are undercapitalized and cash strapped to the point where portions of their fleets are grounded for lack of spares–including the government owned Air India. Problem not likely to improve any time given the recent rout of the Rupee and ongoing capital flight from the emerging markets (more like submerging).

    45km from the city is fine provided a dedicated heavy rail link is provided. London Gatwick is about that distance and is one of the busiest in Europe. Granted, London is also a much larger destination than Warsaw and there are also many more British tourists flying overseas (and foreigners resident in Britain) than Polish ones.

  225. notanon says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Return on invested capital in China is poor.

    higher or lower than the alternatives?

  226. notanon says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    And neoliberalism has largely been proved correct on, say, SOEs.

    as you say “comparative advantage” nowadays mostly boils down to cheaper labor and SOEs were partly (if unconsciously) connected to the problem of how do industrial countries maintain prosperity when labor is so much cheaper elsewhere – and yes they were a very inefficient way of trying to solve the problem.

    my contention is the neoliberal approach has only worked so far cos “there’s a lot of ruin in a nation” i.e. the ex-industrial nations had a lot of fat to burn and the neoliberal pursuit of lowest possible wages will eventually lead to a global crash through lack of demand – mass production capitalism requires a middle class to buy all the stuff.

    (that’s not to say SOEs were a good idea – they were a kind of very inefficient (cos accidental) form of make work + universal basic income scheme)

  227. LondonBob says:

    Interesting that China is basically doing what we suggested in countering US sanctions, lowering tariffs for everyone else.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-20/latest-trade-war-escalation-china-will-cut-tariffs-imported-goods

    Iraq has joined the Russia/Iran/China axis.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/18/two-major-middle-east-projects-afoot-gaining-mass-they-may-collide-before-long.html

    US economic indicators continue to deteriorate.

    http://moneymovesmarkets.com/journal/2018/9/21/us-corporate-money-slowing-business-investment-to-disappoint.html

    Israel has shot themselves in the foot following the shoot down.

  228. Matra says:
    @AquariusAnon

    I know LOT Polish Airlines is trying to get OBOR funds to build a huge airport 45 km from Warsaw to compete with that. The Polish plan is dumb though, as that airport has to be 25 km from Warsaw at the very max, must be close enough for people to take taxis directly from the airport to the city without destroying their wallets.

    It’s hard to believe the Poles are actually serious about this. They are looking for Asian (presumably Chinese) financing and, of course, EU funds despite being in a big dispute with the same EU at present. Warsaw has some geographic advantages over already existing Western European hubs but it’s hard to see Poland pushing out the already established more eastern hubs as so many of them – Gulf states, Turkey – are backed by almost unlimited state resources. And what happens if they spend an absolute fortune building it then completely fall out with Russia and lose overflight rights? It seems very risky all-round with not that good a chance of succeeding. Perhaps they are not serious and it’s just some political stunt to gain prestige before the next election.

  229. @AquariusAnon

    I reckon the Turkish carriers will do well with the big new hub airport in Istanbul which replaces Ataturk in October. That one is currently coping with twice its operational capacity of 30m passengers per year.

    Istanbul is a genuine tourist destination in its own right and the country gets twice the annual tourists the plastic Arab Disneyland that is Dubai attracts. That being helped by no restrictions on alcohol and much more congenial weather all year round. Being at the doorstep of Europe also means passengers from India, Asia, Africa etc. should be able to easily continue their journeys to their European destinations via a low cost carrier and get there within 2 to 4 hours. Unlike Dubai\Doha\Abu Dhabi etc. where the onward journey to Europe is 6 to 7 hours long and a more draining journey overall.

  230. Thumbhead says:
    @Dmitry

    As much as Dmitry wants to pose as a cosmopolitan Russian Jew, his repeated use of “cattle” to refer to common proles is really a glaring giveway. (It’s a direct and bad translation of Russian “bydla”.)

    • Agree: utu
  231. Thumbhead says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Germany always had a weak hand to play, Nazism or not.

    The Allies had continent-sized landmasses and endless resources, while the Axis were extremely limited physically. There’s no way the Axis could’ve matched that manpower and industrial output. WW2 was decided centuries ago, when Anglo-Saxons and Eastern Slavs conquered and settled two whole continents. Due to historical circumstances and just plain luck, the USA expanded between two oceans and dominated a hemisphere, while the sad old Krauts were still squabbling over duchies and margravates and mini-principalities by the Baltic.

    Hitler’s generalplan ost was his way of correcting that and making Germany a continental superstate as fast as possible. Too bad the Russians weren’t nomadic stone-age savages, though.

    • Replies: @DFH
  232. The moment there is even an inkling of warming ties between Moscow and DC, Ukraine will be thrown to the wolves, through massive pressure by the jewish lobby in media and political circles. The only other ‘option’ is to prostate oneself like Western Europe but that is virtually suicide in the long run at any rate.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @DFH
  233. Thumbhead says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Hitler’s take on Russian ethnogenesis wasn’t unique at all – the idea that Russia’s ruling strata were more “Nordic” than the dumb prole masses wasn’t an uncommon view among European and American racialist types at the time. Madison Grant had a similar view that the Bolshevik revolution was a racial catastrophe. Hitler was definitely more anti-Russian than the rest of the eugenicist crowd, but his ideas were dumb extrapolations of theories that were already there.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  234. neutral says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Nutrition is like politics, there are a ton of different theories and many people are absolutely convinced that their way of eating things is the truth. I have observed many vegetarians that were healthy and productive, so I cannot buy the idea that it is incorrect.

  235. Mr. Hack says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Why trash the H man? From how you describe yourself, you would have been his perfect poster child for the pure Aryan master race. Aren’t you the one who is a proponent of a ‘Greater Germany’, even sacrificing your beloved Sweden to this project?

    As for ‘worshipping animals’, you probably own a German Sheppard (or some other similar breed of dog) . I bet that you wouldn’t consider slaughtering the beast in order to provide fresh meat for your beloved schnitzel, eh? :-)

    • Replies: @AP
  236. Mr. Hack says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Nah, I doubt it. Ukraine will always remain a prize worth keeping in the Western camp, if for no other reason than to hold it over the egomaniacal Ruskies. Besides, if Ukraine were ever to scrap its western orientation and join the Asiatic Northern Union, the West would then really have something to fear. Brzezinski was right about Ukraine’s importance on the Eurasian chessboard.

  237. DFH says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Yasha Levine and Ames are not really typical of US Jewry, certainly not the elements that have power. It’s not like they care about ‘anti-semitism’ when they are supporting Muslim groups for strategic reasons.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  238. utu says:
    @notanon

    one of the things common to all the rust belt towns is how small a percentage of the total economy was made up by the manufacturing element – most of the economy was the factory workers giving their wages to the bakers, butchers and barbers and the butchers giving that money to the barbers and bakers etc

    Good point, yet all the money circulating came originally from the steel mill wages which were funded by out of town money, i.e., steel mill selling its products. Then that money slowly were sipped off out of town by bakers having to by flower and butchers having to by meat out of town. You could not make the plates spinning with phony money that had no purchasing power outside of the town unless you start growing your own wheat and raising your own pigs and cows within the two economy.

    • Replies: @notanon
  239. utu says:
    @for-the-record

    It’s real. Being over the top full ad hominem is Cole’s style. He preferred to vent the steam and get angry instead of trying to present his arguments cogently to Ron Unz.

    Cole has a really nasty personality and likes to boast of his own meanness. Guy has no scruples when it comes to working towards one of his political/career goals. If he did not trip on his own legs because of his Holocaust shenanigans he could have been successful party operative for the under the radar operations like Roger Stone or Linda Trip. If you want somebody’s reputation destroyed go hire David Cole.

  240. @Thumbhead

    Sure, I know that wasn’t original to him either, just that it was the most interesting part of the book (for me).

  241. Daniel.I says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    If you think this is what normiecucks do at the gym, you have a rather expansive definition of them.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  242. DFH says:
    @Thumbhead

    when Anglo-Saxons and Eastern Slavs conquered and settled two whole continents

    Russians and Anglos are really the big winners of the last 500 years in terms of Lebensraum and (relative) population expansion, and French and Germans the losers. Germans lost their settlements in Eastern Europe and are still losting ground to Italians in the South Tyrol (obviously overshadowed by white genocide affecting all of Western Europe, but still)

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
  243. utu says:
    @neutral

    David Irving who once claimed that he did not read Mein Kampf (which I found hard to believe) suggested that it was ghost written for Hitler. On the other hand he said more important book was Hitler’s Second Book. I have decided to read last year.

    Mein Kampf has occasionally excellent insight and foresights. Like the one about the creation of the Jewish state where he sees the future state as the place where Jewish criminals will fine refuge but it will not be the preferred place for Jews to live.

    In the Second Book he predicts what will become of Germany and Germans if they do not achieve dominance. That the racial superiority of Germans will not amount to much and Germany will end up as a mediocre nation like Switzerland or Holland who have also racially superior populations yet are mediocre.

    He talks about what IQist and HBDers would be interested in. When comparing English and Germans he thinks that the standard deviation of English is narrower meaning that they do not have as many inferior elements as Germans do.

    Hitler’s exceptional reverence towards the English is striking and astonishing. It reminds me of similar reverence by IQers and HBDers towards the Jews. Hitler thought he was reasonable to ask for Germany more Lebensraum and that England would be reasonable to recognize it and will acquiesce. That’s why he treaty them in kid gloves. The IQers and HBDesr like Sailer or Murray or Derbyshire recognize the supremacy of the Jews and only humbly ask their superiors to let them express anti-Black and anti-Hispanic sentiments and stop immigration. They make the same mistake that Hitler made. Jew will not acquiesce to their appeals.

    • Replies: @DFH
    , @Matra
    , @Thumbhead
    , @notanon
  244. @DFH

    Germans lost their settlements in Eastern Europe and are still losting ground to Italians in the South Tyrol

    Not to mention all the tens of millions of Germans in America that were assimilated in Anglo culture.

  245. @Daniel.I

    Point is that going to a gym is a chore. Which is totally fine, but I’m not interested in adding more chores to my life.

  246. DFH says:
    @utu

    Hitler thought he was reasonable to ask for Germany more Lebensraum and that England would be reasonable to recognize it and will acquiesce

    Poor little Hitler, unreasonably stopped by perfidious Albion from ethnically cleansing or subjugating millions of other Europeans

    • Replies: @notanon
  247. AaronB says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Very much in keeping with the spirit of frivolity, Karlin.

    This Chad philosophy is excellent as far as it goes – the problem is it does not go far enough. It see through so much nonsense – but take other things too seriously.

    Viewed from a certain height, Chad is merely another cuck. He cares – he works out.

    But this Chad philosophy is the beginning of spirituality – so must be encouraged as a baby step.

  248. AaronB says:
    @Silva

    Thanks, an interesting character for sure.

    I like he says looking at his contemporaries, he understands why honest men headed to the hills and deserts when the Roman empire was collapsing.

    He also has a very good grasp of reality – he rightly mocks all the “clever” strategists and understands that that the decisive element in winning is sheer force -i.e sheer, brutal will power, inelegant and brutal, is the decisive element.

    This is what so many don’t understand about the current Jews dominance – the decisive element here isn’t the clever strategies of the Jews, but the massive willpower differential between Jews and rather easy going whites, who just don’t care as much.

    However, I’m not a fan of caring – caring eventually ends in nihilism.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  249. Matra says:
    @utu

    Hitler’s exceptional reverence towards the English is striking and astonishing.

    Even more astonishing was his ignorance of basic British interests and the country’s foreign policy going back to William III. (Actually, even before the Dutch king, when the Spanish were the main threat, there are examples of England pursuing a balance of power foreign policy). There is no excuse for Hitler’s misunderstanding of the British.

    Hitler, like so many right wingers both before and since him, was too provincial to succeed. His French supporters, particularly those who put their necks on the line, were often filled with rage over mistakes they put down to his provincialism. Maybe it is baked in cake but right wing nationalists – be they of the imperialist or isolationist kind – just seem to have trouble understanding anyone other than their own people.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  250. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Good to see you coming around to this. I’m not sure if it was Thorfinnsonn who said this, but one has no business representing any political ideology if they look like shit. But stop with the neoliberal horseshit, Russians experienced enough of that in 90′s and aren’t going to fall for that again.

    Most exercises can be done without specialised equipment, consistency is more the problem.

  251. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    It’s a pretty dull work, though not as unreadable as people claim. It is at least readable and clearly written, unlike say Marx or any modern French ‘philosopher’.
    ‘Hitler’s Table Talk’ compiled by Martin Bormann is much more interesting.

  252. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Nothing wrong with going to a gym if it isn’t playing cancerous pop-music and filled with Indians working out in designer jeans imo.

  253. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    As for ‘worshipping animals’, you probably own a German Sheppard (or some other similar breed of dog) . I bet that you wouldn’t consider slaughtering the beast in order to provide fresh meat for your beloved schnitzel, eh?

    There is a difference between worshipping animals and viewing them as being equal to humans, and respecting one’s allies or friends.

    Which reminds me of pork. Some people will make the strange argument that because pigs are as intelligent as dogs, killing a dog and eating it is no different from killing a pig and eating it, and that disgust at Chinese practices is some sort unfair cultural prejudice by Westerners. But dogs, unlike pigs, were made for service and help, as friends. This is reflected in various attributes and behaviors (dogs will instinctively go to humans for help when hurt, other usually animals seek solitude; dogs are more sensitive to human emotion than more intelligent creatures such s chimps are; etc.). For this reason, eating dogs is a betrayal and demonstration of lack of honor, and it is perverse, using dogs for something they are not designed for. It is something a degenerate would do.*

    *Obviously an exception can be made in rare circumstances, such as starvation, when these servants and friends make the ultimate sacrifice

  254. Mitleser says:

    Another example of American agreement-incapableness

    • Replies: @AquariusAnon
  255. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    I agree with your sentiments on this issue. I was only addressing Thorfinnsson’s point in castigating all, it seems. who forego eating meat of being guilty of an ‘ethical dilemma of worshipping animals’. Apparently, some Chinese don’t share in your own cultural taboos. My point really was to emphasize that every individual has his/her own scale in evaluating what is correct nutritionally and ethically when formulating a diet. I’m sure that even Thorfinnsson has a code that he follows regarding the consumption of meat products. Peter’s vision recorded in the New Testament is sufficient for my own purposes:

    According to the Acts of the Apostles, chapter 10, Saint Peter had a vision of a vessel (Greek: σκεῦός, skeuos; “a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners”) full of animals being lowered from heaven (Acts 10:11). A voice from heaven told Peter to kill and eat, but since the vessel (or sheet, ὀθόνη, othonē) contained unclean animals, Peter declined. The command was repeated two more times, along with the voice saying, “What God hath made clean, that call not thou common” (verse 15) and then the vessel was taken back to heaven (verse 16).

    At this point in the narrative, messengers sent from Cornelius the Centurion arrive and urge Peter to go with them. He does so, and mentions the vision as he speaks to Cornelius, saying “God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean” (Acts 10:28). Peter related the vision again in Acts 11:4-9.

    As for eating meat vs vegetarianism:

    One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. Romans 14.1-23

    • Replies: @utu
  256. utu says:
    @Mr. Hack

    One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. Romans 14.1-23

    I like it however what does “the weak person” mean? Isn’t it a judgment or is it poor translation?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  257. Thumbhead says:
    @utu

    Hitler’s extreme Anglophilia was indeed a childish HBD-nerd admiration, and as usual, wasn’t reciprocated.

    In “Hitler’s Table Talk”, the main thing he admires about the Brits is their alpha attitude of mastery over the lesser races and nations. He wants the Germans to have this slaveowner attitude to the Russians and Ukrainians, but concludes that the present-day Germans are a bunch of bleeding-heart libcucks who probably won’t be up for the ubermensch task.

    He really had a squalid, shitty, 4chan-level mind. Why, oh why, won’t Britain let him ethnically cleanse Europe in peace?

    • Replies: @notanon
  258. Mr. Hack says:
    @utu

    I suspect that the adjective ‘weak’ in this instance refers to the physical strength that accrues to somebody who eats meat, for its high protein value. The inference being, that if you don’t eat meat you are considered weaker than somebody who does. I don’t know how true that is today, with all manner of high protein products available that are plant based. For the record, I’m not a vegetarian and I do eat meat.*

    *I’m looking forward to a fillet mignon that I’ve pre-ordered at a wedding I’ll be attending in a couple of weeks at a swanky resort. I passed up a salmon and also a vegetarian dish. :-)

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  259. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Isn’t the most important thing to do aerobic exercise? Not that you need gym for this.

    Even a couple minutes with skipping rope, each day, can make you fit.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  260. Anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @AP

    Dogs will eat their owners quite readily when they can:

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jmbx78/dogs-love-eating-human-faces

    Eating dogs is not incompatible with their design as tools. Swiss farmers, who as farmers are closer to the tradition of using dogs as tools than most people today, also have a tradition of eating dogs:

    https://www.newsweek.com/not-just-christmas-swiss-urged-stop-eating-cats-and-dogs-287378

    Founder and president of the group Tomi Tomek told the BBC that 3% of Swiss people eat cat or dog meat, 80% of them being farmers. The Lucerne, Appenzell, Jura and Bern areas are the main culprits.

    “One woman gave me a recipe for cooking newborn cat,” Tomek said. “I went to the police, a veterinarian and the government and they all told me that there was no law against it.” She was told to write a petition and try to get a politician to support her. She’s now rallied five to her cause.

    Cat meat even features prominently on Christmas menus in some parts of Switzerland, Tomek said, while dog meat is also used to make sausages. “It is an old tradition in Switzerland to eat dog meat like sausages and use dog fat for rheumatism,” she said. “They eat cats because they taste like rabbits.” They are apparently prepared in the same way and best served with white wine and garlic.

    “Farmers will eat their cats and dogs when they have too many, says Tomek. “I told them to sterilize the animals but they said it was too costly and it made a good meal.”

    • Replies: @AP
    , @AP
    , @Pericles
  261. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    How many pull ups can you do?

    Do you jog? And of so are there places along your way you can do pull ups like a tree with branches or a park with horizontal bars?

  262. AP says:
    @Anonymous

    Dogs will eat their owners quite readily when they can:

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jmbx78/dogs-love-eating-human-faces

    Interesting. I’ve heard from people who deal with such situations that dogs will not eat their owners, but cats will.

    At any rate, these are people who have already died.

    I did not realize that there were pockets of dog-eating degenerates in Switzerland.

  263. @Mitleser

    It is because the US is represented at the UN by an Indian woman with (miraculously) severe TDS.

    As you can see, Indian women are extremely unhinged if given any sort of power, on top of neoliberalism.txt brainwashing. There’s a reason why people in the West try their best to avoid Indian bosses.

  264. @DFH

    Ames maybe isn’t (didn’t even know he was a yid), but Yasha definitely is. Sperging about ‘muh democracy’ while spending very little time on Israel. His reaction to Israel’s new national law was like that of a disappointed mother. If Germany had done something similar he’d be clamoring for sanctions. At the very least strident demands to cut off Germany from the Western alliance. No such demands for Israel. Ethnic loyalty always weighs heavier for these “proponents of democracy”.

    Ukraine is only tolerated insofar as it is useful against Russia. Once/when there is a thaw, it will be thrown to the wolves.

    It’s not like they care about ‘anti-semitism’ when they are supporting Muslim groups for strategic reasons.

    Most muslims don’t dislike jews, but they heavily dislike Israel. There is a huge difference. And even among radical muslims, many have found willing jewish sponsors. Even ISIS apologised to their Zionist sponsors after mistakenly attacking israeli targets.

    Martin Gilbert – arguably the most influential Jewish historian in the UK in the postwar era together with Simon Schama – wrote an entire book on historical muslim and jewish relations and came to the conclusion that jews had it better among muslims seen over long periods of time. This is also true when you consider that jews lived among muslims for thousands of years without much conflict (compared to Europé). We shouldn’t be surprised by this. They are very similar to each other in mentality. The main difference really only lies in intellect. In the US, most jews are more conconcered about White nationalists than they are of muslims. Even in Europe, many jewish groups collaborate with muslim groups. Those who think there will be a jewish-white alliance are deluded.

    A lot of people really believe the rhetoric of “muh muslim anti-semitism” when in reality, most of it is concentrated to grievances on Israel(and the colonisation of arab land it necessitated), which world jewry considers to be anti-jewish, but that is a conflation.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @LondonBob
  265. Mr. Hack says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    So why add all of these contraptions to your new digs, to clutter things up? I remember reading a piece from your old blog (before you became an alt-right superstar) where you outlined your exercise program, built around push-ups and all manner of resistance exercises? It sounded good then, why not now? (it might be useful for others including myself, and I wouldn’t mind rereading it).

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  266. Yevardian says:
    @AaronB

    However, I’m not a fan of caring – caring eventually ends in nihilism.

    Brah. That isn’t even make sense by your standards.

    • Replies: @Silva
    , @AaronB
  267. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    You’re kind of puffy and fluffy eh?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  268. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Not if it’s a quality gym, close to home, with great hours and not too much of a crowd.

    The US is quite contradictory on this score. More than ever, it has more fitness options than ever, with the population on the whole getting puffier.

    Besides the gym, there’s also the matter of using one’s surroundings for either power walk and/or runs, as well as getting some home fitness items. In the US, dumbbells can be bought at a dollar a pound.

  269. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Farm raised salmon is a no-no according to many, if not most nutritionists. Given the pollution in the ocean (like crushed micro plastic), the more natural kind of salmon can be a crap shoot.

    Shame because it makes for an otherwise healthy and tasty meal.

  270. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Dmitry

    Yes, with a well rounded program of power, speed, strength and flexibility exercises being the most ideal.

    In US gyms, there’s a trend of juice heads who won’t do any cardio, because they just want to get big. These folks typically don’t look healthy. On the other hand, look at the kick boxers, MMA/UFC fighters and traditional boxers who on the whole look more healthily ripped via a regimen of power exercises and cardio.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  271. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Thulean Friend

    Ames has acknowledged being of Jewish background. Some years back, he wrote a hack job on Paul Klebnikov after he was slain and couldn’t obliviously answer back. Ames had that hack job of his taken down.

  272. Daniel.I says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Everything in life is a chore, so it comes down to cost vs benefit.

    You might find that stuff like explosive olympic lifts are really cool and challenging to do (I know I do).

    Of course, you might not – but you’ll never know until you try.

  273. @Mr. Hack

    How are they going to clutter things up? I ended up buying essentially two things:

    (1) The pull up bar, which will hang discretely over an entryway.

    (2) The horizontal bars, which will be in the otherwise empty balcony and are adjustable, so would usually be folded down.

    One doesn’t need equipment for most calisthenics exercises, but pull ups are the big (and critical) exception.

  274. @AP

    From a point of view of honor, that’s correct.

    From a point of view based on minimizing suffering (e.g. effective altruism), assuming that intelligence is correlated with the capacity for suffering, then eating pork is approximately equivalent to eating dogmeat.

    Of course in practice it might be reasonable to combine the two. For instance, eating chimpanzee or gorilla (in non-survival situations) seems decidedly bad.

    • Replies: @Silva
    , @anonymous coward
  275. Silva says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Do you know a case of a chimp doing anything good for a human?

    • Replies: @Talha
  276. iffen says:

    People who believe animals should be treated like humans should be treated like animals.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Spisarevski
  277. Talha says:
    @iffen

    “Four legs good, two legs bad.“

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

    Peace.

  278. @iffen

    People who have no empathy towards animals should be treated like the subhumans that they are.

    In any case “believe animals should be treated like humans” a straw-man. Minimizing needless suffering and cruelty is far from treating them like humans.

    I make a point of always buying eggs from free roaming chicken. They are just a little more expensive, but infinitely more ethical. Whenever possible, I also try to buy meat from animals who are not raised in concentration camps spending their whole life in a 1×2 meters metal cage with steroids and shit – not only is that more ethical, but it’s also healthier.

    Animals eat each other all the time in nature, so it’s not unethical to eat them. However, they should be able to live their lives normally and they should not suffer needlessly.

  279. @Spisarevski

    They are just a little more expensive, but infinitely more ethical.

    They are also higher quality with more vitamins per egg.

  280. iffen says:
    @Spisarevski

    they should be able to live their lives normally

    Domesticated animals do live their lives normally unless some idiot tries to make them live an un-domesticated one.

  281. iffen says:
    @Spisarevski

    People who have no empathy towards animals

    I always find it humorous that most people who get worked up over strawmen use more strawmen than anyone else.

  282. LondonBob says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Kevin MacDonald’s point was Muslim countries are segmentary societies and whilst Jews were more physically safe they were kept in a powerless position and were unable to achieve positions of influence, except by crypsis such as the Donmeh in the Ottoman Empire, or where they were an intermediary group between an alien elite and an oppressed native population. Muslim youths would often throw rocks at Jews and other such acts emphasised the power dynamic. In Europe, due to our individualism, the situation was more dynamic with a rise in power leading to backlash. The common emotion in Europe towards Jews is fear, whereas in the Islamic world it is contempt. Interestingly though the Muslim world also connects Jews with ideas subversive to the social order. So there was conflict however it was more of a continuous low level type whereas in Europe it was more volatile.

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  283. notanon says:
    @utu

    yet all the money circulating came originally from the steel mill wages

    yes, the money-in-money-out part of the system needs to be *either* in balance or positive – that is a necessary condition – my point is once that condition is met then the majority of prosperity within the system comes from the internal velocity of money.

  284. notanon says:
    @utu

    HBD is a lot more than just IQ – although i agree it doesn’t always seem that way

    imo the key elements in relative western success over the last few centuries are:

    1) average IQ above a necessary minimum

    2) a tipping point percentage of people willing to chip in for public goods for maximum synergy

    where imo (2) came out of cold weather adaptation magnified over time by selective pressure from Christianity.

  285. Talha says:
    @Silva

    Dogs are simply wolves that have been domesticated and bred for friendly qualities over thousands for years, this they exhibit those qualities. We simply have not done the same with chimps or pigs (which have obviously been bred for other things). It is pretty incredible what humans can do with an animal by breeding it for certain traits over generations, for instance, the Belgian Blue:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Silva
  286. notanon says:
    @DFH

    discussing the rise of Fascism in the 1930s without reference to what the Bolsheviks did in the 1920s makes no sense.

  287. notanon says:
    @Thumbhead

    Why, oh why, won’t Britain let him ethnically cleanse Europe in peace?

    why oh why didn’t the Western powers take out the Bolsheviks when they invaded Poland in the 1920s – that would have prevented the whole thing

    • Replies: @iffen
  288. iffen says:
    @notanon

    Why, oh why, didn’t the Western powers eliminate the country called Germany with the Treaty of Versailles– that would have prevented the whole thing.

    • Replies: @notanon
  289. notanon says:

    (the internet says) there’s an important vitamin (K2) which is created by a kind of bacteria that eats grass – so free range chickens and grass fed cattle/goats etc have more of it than grain-fed.

    (K2 helps prevent calcification of the arteries aka heart attacks)

  290. notanon says:
    @iffen

    you’re saying the existence of Germany was the Bolshevik’s motive?

    makes sense i guess

  291. Silva says:
    @Talha

    “Dogs are simply wolves that have been domesticated and bred for friendly qualities over thousands for years, thus they exhibit those qualities. We simply have not done the same with chimps or pigs (which have obviously been bred for other things).”

    Sure. If animals of such species for whatever reason start intentionally collaborating with humans (though: with pig anatomy, what useful to us can they do other than get killed?), I’ll think the latter have moral obligations towards the former. (I’m against unneeded cruelty towards other animals, but for what it does to the perpetrator, not the victim.)

    That said, as long as we keep our technology, I don’t see the benefit to doing that to any further species. And if we started after losing our technology, it’d again take a few millenia.

    • Replies: @Talha
  292. Talha says:
    @Silva

    I’m with you on unecessary cruelty to animals. I also pay a little extra for eggs and meat that has been raised humanely.

    Peace.

  293. AaronB says:
    @Yevardian

    Its actually quite simple.

    If you search for meaning in the physical world – care – you will not find it there, and eventually despair, and become a nihilist.

    If you don’t take the world seriously at all, if you see through it, if it’s a big cosmic joke for you, you’ll never despair or become a nihilist – despair and nihilism are serious reactions to things.

    The nihilist ultimately takes the world too seriously.

  294. I asked my hotel this morning to bring me the Wall Street Journal.

    It was delivered by a robot.

    Creepy.

    • Replies: @iffen
  295. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Nothing serious, Mickey, that a few extra trips to the local pool wont help solve. I’m a lap swimmer, who swims one mile three times a week (32 laps). I’ve also recently started a circuit training program using various fitness machines, under the guidance of my own personal trainer, to break up the monotony. Next up is buying a 10 speed bike, to take advantage of the wonderful bike paths in my area. All of this with an eye towards getting back into competitive tennis. A few years back I was a good solid B league player, taking part in a couple of local club competitions.

    How about you, Mickey? How do you take care of that ‘kookiness & ookiness’ that seems to bog you down? :-)

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  296. AP says:
    @Anonymous

    I read more about this. Apparently, a small number of dogs will eat their owners’ faces after their owners die. They will do this even if they have normal food available. The pattern of eating is very different from normal scavenging, when dogs (or wolves) avoid faces and go for more-nutritious organs in the torso first.

    The given explanation is that they lick the owner’s face more and more frantically in order to wake him up, eventually biting the face, drawing blood, and triggering an eating instinct. So in a strange way, loyalty/love is involved.

    • Replies: @iffen
  297. iffen says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Did you tip?

    As young as you are you might want to get in on the ground floor with the machines.

  298. iffen says:
    @AP

    So in a strange way, loyalty/love is involved.

    Maybe. Maybe it was just payback time.

  299. On animals–I approve of good treatment of animals and have been an animal lover as long as I can remember. I can easily spend hours sitting in my backyard just watching squirrels and birds.

    I also strongly believe vegetarians should be sent to concentration camps unless they are able to produce an Indian passport.

    I disapprove of eating dogs for the same reasons as AP, though I don’t think it should be illegal.

    The conceit of not eating pigs for ethical reasons is hackneyed bullshit made up by people trying to seem thoughtful.

    Would try human flesh if offered to me.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @iffen
    , @Mr. Hack
  300. Talha says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Humans eat (also ferment and drink/grind and smoke) anything they can get their hands on; my archery instructor told us he killed and ate two bears thus far.

    Would try human flesh if offered to me.

    What if in the form of a wafer with some wine?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @DFH
  301. @LondonBob

    Plenty of Ottoman Jews were able to openly achieve positions of high influence depending on the sultan in charge such as Mehmed II’s finance minister Hakim Yusuf Pasha. They were favoured over distrusted local Christian nationalities like the Greeks and Armenians.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  302. iffen says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    I can easily spend hours sitting in my backyard just watching squirrels and birds.

    I do spend hours on my back porch watching birds enjoying the sunflowers that I have planted for them in my garden. I enjoy watching them more than I enjoy killing, with my air rifle, the unwelcome rodent vermin trying to destroy and devour the entire crop.

    • Replies: @Talha
  303. @Daniel Chieh

    I’m not sure I agree with you on the prospects of seasteading. The world recognized the existence of Singapore in 1965. Various new countries (Eritria, South Sudan) are being created in Africa and other areas. A seastead would simply be a ocean-based Singapore 2, Singapore3, all the way to Singapore N. If the seastead is away from vital sealanes (e.g. South China Sea, etc.), I don’t see why the rest of the world would object to its existence, especially considering that we would not be “taking any land from anyone” as is the case with certain existing countries of recent origin (wink, wink).

    The main barriers to seasteading are economic, mainly the currently high capital cost of creating it. This is currently about 10 times too expensive, by my estimate, to be practical. Automated fabrication and robotic assembly is necessary for cost-effective fabrication of seasteads.

  304. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Rodents gotta eat…we had a similar problem with our little veggie garden, but then we started to let the cat go out of the house – the rodent problem disappeared.

    Maybe try that? Of course, no guarantee it won’t go after the birds.

    Peace.

    Note: Cats are also haram to eat.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @iffen
    , @Anon
  305. Mr. Hack says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Would try human flesh if offered to me.

    With fava beans and a nice Chianti, no doubt..

  306. DFH says:
    @Talha

    I think that he is more interested in the accidental qualities than the substance

  307. LondonBob says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    They held high positions but couldn’t exercise power over Ottoman Turks.

  308. iffen says:
    @Talha

    The cats pull their weight by taking care of the field mice and chipmunks, but they can’t take on the gray squirrels.

    Rodents gotta eat…

    I don’t blame them for going for the sunflowers, but they shouldn’t blame me for shooting them when they do. Squirrels are actually easily trained. I very quickly trained several to run from the ground and up into the trees when I stand up.

    • Replies: @Talha
  309. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Note: Cats are also haram to eat.

    Do you get Chinese takeout?

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  310. @utu

    Actually, on some occasions Hitler or whoever wrote his books have some good insights into the human nature and the workings of social forces.

    To be sure. Orwell brought this up in his review of Mein Kampf (written in the spring of 1940, so he wasn’t some Monday-morning quarterback).

    Suppose that Hitler’s programme could be put into effect. What he envisages, a hundred years hence, is a continuous state of 250 million Germans with plenty of ‘living room’ (i.e. stretching to Afghanistan or thereabouts), a horrible brainless empire in which, essentially, nothing ever happens except the training of young men for war and the endless breeding of fresh cannon-fodder. How was it that he was able to put this monstrous vision across? It is easy to say that at one stage of his career he was financed by the heavy industrialists, who saw in him the man who would smash the Socialists and Communists. They would not have backed him, however, if he had not talked a great movement into existence already. Again, the situation in Germany, with its seven million unemployed, was obviously favourable for demagogues. But Hitler could not have succeeded against his many rivals if it had not been for the attraction of his own personality, which one can feel even in the clumsy writing of Mein Kampf, and which is no doubt overwhelming when one hears his speeches…The fact is that there is something deeply appealing about him. One feels it again when one sees his photographs—and I recommend especially the photograph at the beginning of Hurst and Blackett’s edition, which shows Hitler in his early Brownshirt days. It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.

    Also he has grasped the falsity of the hedonistic attitude to life. Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all ‘progressive’ thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. The Socialist who finds his children playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers; tin pacifists somehow won’t do. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades. However they may be as economic theories, Fascism and Nazism are psychologically far sounder than any hedonistic conception of life. The same is probably true of Stalin’s militarised version of Socialism. All three of the great dictators have enhanced their power by imposing intolerable burdens on their peoples. Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people ‘I offer you a good time,’ Hitler has said to them ‘I offer you struggle, danger and death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet. Perhaps later on they will get sick of it and change their minds, as at the end of the last war. After a few years of slaughter and starvation ‘Greatest happiness of the greatest number’ is a good slogan, but at this moment ‘Better an end with horror than a horror without end’ is a winner. Now that we are fighting against the man who coined it, we ought not to underrate its emotional appeal.”

    https://bookmarks.reviews/george-orwells-1940-review-of-mein-kampf/

  311. Talha says:
    @iffen

    I tend to avoid non-Muslim Chinese spots since they are too lard-happy with their cooking.

    Peace.

  312. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Love it!!!

    Yeah, that’s true my cat basically stares at the squirrels, but has no luck with them. They are great at the other pests, but one issue I have is that they seem to often be, at least from a human perspective, unnecessarily cruel about how they kill smaller animals; toying with the injured animal as it slowly bleeds to death. I once took a baby possum over to our local county wildlife rehabilitation center. My cat had messed it up, but it was still alive though immobile. Hope it survived.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  313. iffen says:
    @Talha

    from a human perspective, unnecessarily cruel about how they kill smaller animals;

    Cats use this disabling of animals in order to teach their young how to catch and kill prey. I got in over my head in a comment exchange with Peter Frost on this subject. I tried to maintain that what the cats are doing does not fit the definition of cruelty. If pleasure is the proximate cause of this behavior is that the same as the pleasure that humans (some) (some of the time) derive from inflicting pain and suffering? I was belligerent because I didn’t want to believe it is homologous.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Peter Frost
  314. Talha says:
    @iffen

    I tend to agree with you on this, which is why I mentioned “from a human perspective”. Of course, I’d have to be able to really get into the head of my cat to figure out why he does what he does; plenty of which makes no sense to me.

    Peace.

  315. @utu

    Agree.

    Hitler’s Mein Kampf has more insight about international relations and political scheming than anything published by any American politician in living memory. He knew his enemies and had no illusions about their unscrupulousness. Leftoids just don’t like being skewered. They don’t want to take any responsibility for the historical fact that had it not been for the threat bolshevism posed to Europe, there wouldn’t have been a Hitler. So they act as though he was an isolated phenomenon. You can always tell a bad faith argument; the proponents put on Angel wings and a halo.

  316. @iffen

    Screw you. Let people talk. They don’t all agree with you, so freaking what? Who appointed you the gatekeeper of what is permissible?

    We’re all a collection of different people inside. Different times bring out different moods. I don’t even agree with myself half the time. Only by airing out our thoughts can we reflect and see that we too are sometimes idiots, sometimes geniuses.

    • Agree: iffen
  317. @Anatoly Karlin

    “One thing I have mused about is the idea of atomic boring machines”

    You’ve got a good mind, Anatoly, but someone already beat you to this one:

    http://www.tomswift.info/homepage/aearth.html

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
  318. @Anatoly Karlin

    We call “vertical pushups”, dips. That is, we call them “dips”. They’re a great workout. The deeper you go, the harder you work.

    Even Arnold said that most people would benefit most from pull ups, dips and sit ups rather than weights.

    Those look like some interesting options you’ve got there.

    If you need indoor aerobic work (as in the winter) then I recommend a set of bicycle rollers and, if you can afford it, a Concept 2 rowing ergometer (the world standard).

    Rollers, in my opinion, are better than those bicycle resistance trainers because rollers aren’t as boring. You will develop good form from learning to balance on rollers. Resistance is just a matter of changing gears AND they are relatively flat and can be stored by leaning them upright against a wall. Cheap too. Eddy Merckx rode rollers, not a resistance trainer, to warm up.

    The Concept 2 represents a serious commitment but it is the Gold Standard. You will never outgrow it though it does take up a bit of room. It too can be stood up. Working out with one will make you very strong and fit.

    https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/model-d

  319. The Concept 2 is used worldwide to measure aerobic fitness and VO2 MAX of all athletes. Every crew team in the world uses this or its equivalent for out of the water training. A low-impact, total body workout. Very studly.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  320. @Matra

    “Hitler, like so many right wingers both before and since him, was too provincial to succeed. ”

    Now that hits the nail on the head.

  321. utu says:
    @Swedish Family

    It is pretty amazing that so sober review could have been written and published in March 1940 when England was in the middle of war or is it possible that the mood in England at that time was such that somehow it will all dissipate and go back to normal. Orwell was a great writer. And it speaks a lot about British liberal institutions and its general frame of mind.

  322. My apologies for having disappeared these past 3 or 4 weeks.

    I have been trying to face a sudden and massive increase of workload due to the unexpected arrival of a new customer and the departure of a key collaborator. I am effectively working two full time jobs.

    So, under those circumstances, I am okay. Will be back to the comment thread. Just not now.

    Be well.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  323. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I think the important one for health/energy is just very high intensity aerobic exercise.

    Even several minutes every few days, with a skipping rope, makes you fit (as it’s a very high intensity interval training, which makes you feel like you’re dying).

    You can use calisthenics as part of easily though.

    I still have quite a lot of muscles without doing specific workouts though.

  324. Dmitry says:
    @ThreeCranes

    I used these row machines sometimes, but it’s very boring personally?

    Also exercise bicycle and running machine, I am very quickly bored with.

    In my gym, the machine in the gym I feel less bored spending more than ten minutes on, is the elliptical trainer. For some reason, this one is more relaxing, I can do 20 minutes.

    Punching bag is also not too boring, for about ten minutes.

    I found now, swimming at the gym, is a lot less boring – after discovering underwater headphones and mp3 player.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  325. Dmitry says:
    @AquariusAnon

    On other topic, it’s sad what has happened last week to Mac Miller.

    I’m disappointed Trump does not say anything.

  326. Dmitry says:
    @Mikhail

    Yes, but that sounds pretty extreme.

    Twice a week, for 30 minutes exercise in the gym, can be enough to be fit.

    Or as I said above, you could probably only exercise 4 minutes on a skipping rope every two or three days, and still be fit.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  327. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Spisarevski

    The thing is that industrial farming livestock are bred to be industrial farming livestock. Just like gamecocks are bred to be gamecocks who enjoy fighting. Industrial livestock are harvested in industrial conditions; gamecocks are harvested in the fighting ring; free range chickens are harvested in their pens. It’s in the nature of industrial livestock to live in industrial conditions; it’s in the nature of gamecocks to fight; it’s in the nature of free range chickens to roam around in their pens.

  328. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Good for you.

    As for your inquiry, not bad for any age. Can do the Stairmaster at level 14 manual for an hour straight. Have done the old school Stairmaster (the escalator type) at level 12 manual for 35 minutes straight.

    Prior to an abdominal surgery, was able to swim a 25 minute mile in a 25 yard pool. Among other things, was once able to bench 240 free, before developing a chronic shoulder issue.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mikhail
  329. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Dmitry

    Understood. Some only want to allocate so much time to fitness unlike others. To me, your suggestion isn’t quite enough. It’s definitely better than nothing.

  330. Mikhail says: • Website

    I had a cat who took down squirrels and brought them home to me, which is said to be a sign of appreciation.

    She wasn’t the fastest cat, but apparently quick and tough enough. Squirrels can do damage to a dog or cat.

    Cats play with mice like they’re a toy. They’ll bring them in the house to play with until they eventually die. I had a cat do that with birds.

  331. Anon[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Maybe try that? Of course, no guarantee it won’t go after the birds.

    Cats, domestic and feral, are the biggest bird killers. A couple days ago one of my co-workers told me her cats killed two birds. I was shocked at how nonchalant she was, because she loved her pets to a point where she would get teary talking about her dead iguana. But some birds killed by her cats? nah, some animals are just more important than the others.

    Most people take good care of their pets and claim they love animals, but they are not animal lovers in the truest sense. Millions of dogs and cats are euthanized in American animal shelters every year. We don’t really hear much about it, and I bet most people don’t really care.

    • Replies: @Talha
  332. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    I’ve only recently started doing the cross country type sliding machines, level 2 for 10 minutes. Your 25 minute mile is quite impressive. Curious to know how you injured both your stomach and shoulder, so that I can avoid possibly the same issues. I’ve seen photos of you, and you seem rather tall – wouldn’t want to tangle with you! :-)

  333. Talha says:
    @Anon

    My cat has definitely killed his fair share of birds (pretty amazing given his size). I wish he would actually follow through and eat them though. Seems like such a waste, leaving a headless bird in the backyard.

    Peace.

  334. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mikhail

    Correction: Level 20 on the most updated Stairmaster. For the past few days, I’ve been using the older version which only goes up to 14, on account of the newer version being out of order at my gym.

  335. Mikhail says: • Website

    Shoulder injury happened from lifting. My form has been fine according to what’s written on the subject. Improper form enhances the chance for injury. Not listening to your body on a matter like the shoulders, elbows and knees can be detrimental. It’s best to layoff when such a workout related ache develops. When your young and first experience this kind of a feeling, there’s often a stupid belief of invincibility.

    Not too tall and not too small.

    Stomach related surgery pertained to not getting a colonoscopy sooner, in conjunction with liking certain foods considered risky. Luck for me, the problem seems to have been conquered. The scar tissue from the surgery makes swimming freestyle in the pool more of an effort.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  336. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    Dogs will eat their owners quite readily when they can: [Vice article]

    Citing Vice will eventually lead you to think that humans will eat shit when they can. So … skip Vice.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  337. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/07/would_your_dog_eat_your_dead_body.html

    After a Canadian couple died in their rural Saskatchewan home, their seven dogs subsisted for more than a week by eating their remains. So, is the folk wisdom that a cat will gladly eat its dead owner, but a dog would sooner starve, just bunk?

    Yes. Dogs are perfectly willing to eat human corpses, and there’s no evidence that they treat their masters differently than any other dead body. Many cultures consider dogs unclean precisely because of their tendency to scavenge our remains. In The Iliad, Homer makes nine references to dogs eating dead bodies. Dogs consumed the body of Jezebel, a princess in the Old Testament, after her defenestration. There is evidence that ancient Romans considered the low-hanging cross a crueler form of crucifixion than the high version, because it enabled dogs to rip the body apart. There are even a few secular historians who believe that Jesus’ body was eaten by dogs, and that his acolytes fabricated the story of a reverential entombment as a sort of coping mechanism. Some Muslim communities in East Africa revile dogs because they believe that canines ate the body of the Prophet Muhammad. Modern dogs exhibit the same behavior, and many have eaten their fallen masters. There have been several news stories of dogs scavenging family members, and other cases go unreported in the press. (Don’t get smug, cat lovers. Your feline friends are no better.)

    Dogs that eat their master’s corpses are just fulfilling their evolutionary duty. Proto-dogs scavenged around the outskirts of human settlements about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago, removing food scraps, feces, and other human waste. Humans, the story goes, realized this was rather useful, and let the least aggressive pups hang around. It’s likely that these canine garbage-compactors treated corpses like any other waste product. Their descendants are no different.

    Some dogs don’t even wait until their masters die to dig in. There are many reports of dogs eating the wounded toes of family members. The victims are often afflicted with diabetes, which causes numbness in the feet, and they can’t feel the dog gnawing at them.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  338. @Anatoly Karlin

    From a point of view based on minimizing suffering

    The most effective way to ‘minimize suffering’ is to end humanity of a nuclear fire.

    Any ideology that’s based on altruism is evil satanic trash.

    We should be nice to animals because abusing them acculturates you towards being mean to people, and being mean to people ruins your soul.

  339. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    underwater headphones and mp3 player.

    Please tell me more?…

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  340. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    liking certain foods considered risky.

    Like what?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  341. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Kielbasa, Italian sausage, hot dogs, cold cuts like Italian salami, corned beef, pastrami and ham (Boar’s Head low salt turkey is probably the best in the category of cold cuts). Too much red meat minus the coloring and other additives can be problematical as well.

    Soda having phosphorus/phosphoric acid like Coke. In short, too much processed food isn’t good. Mac and cheese is healthier when made from scratch with a quality cheese, as opposed to the Kraft and other mac and cheese brands out there, having all sorts of additives.

  342. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Try ‘al fresco’ chicken sausages:

    ‘all natural chicken sausages are made with lean skinless chicken meat and only the finest herbs and spices. Our products have no preservatives, added MSG or artificial ingredients’

    https://alfrescoallnatural.com/

    they’re really quite good, and this is coming from sombody who grew up eating Polish and Ukrainian kovbasa and salo. Still, I’m looking forward to my fillet mignon. :-)

  343. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Try ‘al fresco’ chicken sausages:

    ‘all natural chicken sausages are made with lean skinless chicken meat and only the finest herbs and spices. Our products have no preservatives, added MSG or artificial ingredients’

    https://alfrescoallnatural.com/

    they’re really quite good, and this is coming from sombody who grew up eating Polish and Ukrainian kovbasa and salo. Still, I’m looking forward to my fillet mignon. :-)

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  344. Vice was actually quite good about 10 years ago. I liked their article on General “Butt Naked” during the Liberian civil war. They also managed to sneak in an undercover reporter into ISIS (that took serious balls!).

    Even Salon was quite good about 17 years ago, running insightful articles. Salon began its SJW decline around ’02 or so and Vice began its decline about 4 years ago. Both have been highly degraded, and leftist, due to SJW convergence.

    My workout routines consists of the traditional “body building” 2-day split routine (total of 4 days per week) and swimming 40 minutes 3 time per week. I do lots of hiking from May to early Oct (I live in the Pacific NW) with the arrival of the fall rains ending my hiking season for the year. I swim on weekends as well during the rainy season and winter. Perhaps I ought to take up cross-country skiing for the winters.

    I have a copy of Hitler’s Second Book and, yes, it is much more detailed than Mein Kampf. Hitler believed the Brits would allow him to get away with his creation of a Greater German state because he saw them as a maritime empire whereas Germany would be the continental land empire. He believed the two empires would work well in parallel because neither would step on the toes of the other. Hitler actually wanted the Brits to maintain their colonies such as India and encouraged them to do so. He also talked about that mongrel offshoot of the British empire, the American Union. Hitler always called the U.S. the American Union in both books.

  345. @Mikhail

    Mac and cheese is healthier when made from scratch with a quality cheese, as opposed to the Kraft and other mac and cheese brands out there, having all sorts of additives.

    When I came to Canada, I was lucky to be the first tenant in a house and there was a lot of leftover non-perishable food from the owners. Canned beans became my everyday side dish, but I couldn’t eat mac and cheese from a box – that dark orange powder called “cheese” was absolutely disgusting. I grate normal cheese myself when I need it.

    Bread was OK though, people who come to America sometimes complain bread is too sugary but I didn’t notice it.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Mikhail
  346. ussr andy says:

    OT

    A MODEST PROPOSAL for a reform of Russian

    1. stop Kiriji-fying Western proper names. Give Russian in round/square brackets purely as pronunciation guide. Easier to google (obscure) people and places.

    2. stop Russifying Serb proper names and v/v. “Mutual recognition” of all varieties of Cyrillic across all Slavic-language nations that use it.

  347. Dmitry says:
    @Toronto Russian

    couldn’t eat mac and cheese from a box – that dark orange powder called “cheese”

    I thought he was talking about MacDonalds!

    • Replies: @Toronto Russian
  348. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    It’s not great for the crawl. But if you want to swim 30 minutes relaxed, slow, brasse, style then you need to buy an underwater mp3 player, so you don’t feel bored, and so you use your time efficiently. I go swimming only every two or three weeks, but even then I listened to a lot of Spanish lessons on mp3 like this.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  349. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Toronto Russian

    I find that kind of mac and cheese is tasty. Not so good for you though. As a general rule of thumb, when the ingredients on a food or drink item are lengthy that usually means it’s not particularly healthy. Pop Tarts come to mind on that score.

    Heinz canned vegetarian beans are a nice bang for the buck. I typically mix a can with rice and the breast parts of a rotisserie chicken. Bought hot, I like eating the leg quarters and wings of such as a meal or snack.

  350. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Prefer eating chicken whole. Though pricey, Bell & Evans are quality birds when compared to the likes of Perdue and Tyson.

    Based on experience, Hillshire Farms makes the best tasting US mass produced kielbasa. I like Krakus kielbasa, in addition to its canned Polish ham as well. IMO, kielbasa and salami without pork sucks. Plenty of good tasting all beef hot dogs.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  351. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    I listened to a lot of Spanish lessons on mp3 liks

    .

    Like what? I think that you wanted to include a link to show what you recommend?…

  352. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Why resort to any mas produced kielbasa when you live in New York City? There must be a dozen or more Ukrainian or Polish butcher shops there, not to mention all of the newer Russian food stores there that must have great kielbasa and other Slavic meat products?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  353. Surprising discovery: The best pickup line ever is simply telling girls that you’re Chinese.

    Note: may not work if you’re actually Chinese (or yellow).

    • Replies: @AquariusAnon
    , @AaronB
  354. @Thorfinnsson

    Yep that’s good troll game.

    As a Chinese guy, I sometimes tell girls I’m Vladislav from Donetsk.

  355. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    True. A Polish friend mentioned such a place in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. Unfortunately, it’s not so close to me. NY area traffic is rough stuff that has gotten rougher.

    • Replies: @utu
  356. utu says:
    @Mikhail

    There are really great Russian stores in Brighton Beach. Many Polish, Russian and Ukrainians stores all over NYC, NJ, LI and Upstate. And you can buy online. Like here:

    https://www.polishdelionline.com/store/c3/Kielbasa.html

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Mikhail
  357. AaronB says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    That’s the spirit.

    It’s a game. Not Game.

    Laugh, joke, have fun. Don’t seriously employ tactics.

    The game of love is a jeux d’esprit – not a gloomy attempt at dominance :)

    You are on the right path.

  358. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Utu, you’re in New York?

    We should totally meet up!

    I’ll take you on a tour of some of the Jewish neighborhoods, introduce you to some Jews (awful people, but interesting).

    Let me know.

    • Replies: @utu
  359. @iffen

    “Cats use this disabling of animals in order to teach their young how to catch and kill prey. I got in over my head in a comment exchange with Peter Frost on this subject”

    I got in over my head too. When I was a kid, many of my classmates would capture and torture animals for fun, especially frogs (for some reason). I was appalled. I was even more appalled by the attitude of my teachers, who took a “boys will be boys” attitude.

    Is animal torture good for character development? I wonder if anyone has ever studied the subject. As a kid I never had a problem with people trapping rabbits and other animals for their pelts. But gratuitous killing always made me upset.

  360. Mikhail says: • Website

    Excellent show with Oksana Boyko and Metropolitan Hilarion about the Ukrainian Orthodox Church situation:

    http://theduran.com/russian-hierarch-explains-ukrainian-issue-in-detail-video/

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mr. Hack
  361. Mikhail says: • Website
    @utu

    Thanks for the link, which has given me the yumz.

  362. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    Slate, huh? Not as bad but be careful about that too.

  363. Russia to supply S-300 to Syria within 2 weeks after Il-20 downing during Israeli raid – MoD

    https://www.rt.com/news/439190-russia-il20-downing-reaction/

    Fucking finally.

    I can’t be too hard on the Russians, because they remind me of myself – waiting for the last possible moment to do what needs to be done, but ultimately doing it.

  364. @Peter Frost

    I once tortured a fly by removing first its wings, then its legs. I remember not liking the whole idea, but a number of boys, among them prominently one of my friends, did it a few times, so I felt kinda pressured into doing it myself, to prove that I was not a pussy. (I was maybe eight at the time.) Anyway I only did it once, and then decided never to do it again, having already proven myself in front of my friend.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  365. Dmitry says:
    @Peter Frost

    That’s interesting, I have similar experience.

    My mum put me for an afternoon with children (boy and girl – in my memory they were twins) of her friend, while they go out or something.

    These two torture a frog for the afternoon, if I remember with a tennis racquet. It seems they have been doing this for some hours already before I arrived

    I, also, was appalled, and thinking “mum why did you put me with these people”. Also “they don’t have any computer or video games to play?”

    Is animal torture good for character development? I wonder if anyone has ever studied the subject

    Maybe if you want to further damage your “karma” from an early time, or darken the shadow that will follows you around in life.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
  366. LondonBob says:
    @Peter Frost

    Isn’t torturing animals as a child a common trait in psychopaths and serial killers. Never done it myself, why would you?

    • Replies: @iffen
  367. @Swedish Family

    What he envisages, a hundred years hence, is a continuous state of 250 million Germans with plenty of ‘living room’ (i.e. stretching to Afghanistan or thereabouts)

    It’s so much better with 250 million Muslims stretching from Afghanistan to Ireland.

    a horrible brainless empire in which, essentially, nothing ever happens except the training of young men for war and the endless breeding of fresh cannon-fodder. How was it that he was able to put this monstrous vision across?

    White people breeding? Monstrous!

    he was financed by the heavy industrialists, who saw in him the man who would smash the Socialists and Communists

    Smash the Communists? Bad guys.

    The fact is that there is something deeply appealing about him.

    Orwell was a Hitler lover, LOL. Tear down his statues!

    • Replies: @Raymie
  368. iffen says:
    @Peter Frost

    Is animal torture good for character development? I wonder if anyone has ever studied the subject.

    I am up for air so might as well go back under.

    Depends upon the character that you want. Yes, it helped produce and enhance the predator behavior.

    I didn’t want the cat behavior to be considered cruelty. They are repeatedly evoking the predator behavior which must have evolved and continues to be shaped by a biological pleasure mechanism. If we have the “same” predator mechanism then it was formed by pleasure as well. One can say that it is not cruelty in the cats because they do not have empathy and we do. Therefore, it supposedly is cruelty for humans because we “know” what the pain feels like in the other being. Empathy probably evolved because the predator human “knows” what power and control comes from inflicting pain on others. Inflicting pain on others is evolved from a pleasure mechanism.

    Like everything else it has to be a continuum, a variation in the population. It is mediated by culture and learning which is how you get crazy situations like reiner Tor who empathizes with flies but is opposed to sending surplus food to starving African children.

    I love killing flies with a swatter. My empathy balance falls somewhere between cock fighting and dog fighting, although I do not like to see any beings above insects suffering pain. That said, I have no trouble putting an animal out of its suffering.

    Great to see Evo up and running again!

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  369. iffen says:
    @LondonBob

    Isn’t torturing animals as a child a common trait in psychopaths and serial killers.

    Minuscule numbers of psychopaths and serial killers, millions and millions of kids torturing ants, spiders, frogs, cats, etc., do the math.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    , @AP
  370. Raymie says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    lol at WNs who simplify everything to the 4chan level they can understand.

    Orwell called the Third Reich a monstrous empire because it planned to expand to the Urals through ethnic cleansing of millions, not because of “white peeple breeding”.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
  371. @Raymie

    Orwell called the Third Reich a monstrous empire because it planned to expand to the Urals through ethnic cleansing of millions, not because of “white peeple breeding”.

    Maybe we should read what he actually wrote and not invent bullshit justifications.

    The only negative he mentioned is “breeding”, not “ethnic cleansing”. Apparently, the only fault he found with the Nazis were their pro-natalist and pro-military positions.

    Orwell was a horrible man and you should be ashamed for making excuses on his behalf.

    • Replies: @DFH
  372. LondonBob says:
    @iffen

    Torturing animals wasn’t something I came across that I recall.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    , @Peter Frost
  373. DFH says:
    @anonymous coward

    There were quite a lot of people living between Germany and the Urals who would have had to be removed for Germans to live there.

    Orwell was a horrible man and you should be ashamed for making excuses on his behalf.

    At least he never proposed ethnically cleansing millions of Europeans.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
  374. @Swedish Family

    a horrible brainless empire in which, essentially, nothing ever happens except the training of young men for war and the endless breeding of fresh cannon-fodder

    Well, Hitler also envisaged the training of new Wagner Heldentenors, building opera houses for every city above a population of 50,000. (Or maybe 30,000?)

    Of course, he chased away the best young composer in Germany (Hindemith), along with a number of famous conductors (like Erich Kleiber or Hans Knappertsbusch, neither of whom were opposed to the Nazi regime in principle – Knappertsbusch only went to Austria and so was back in Greater Germany by 1938), so it’d have been better if he wasn’t so much interested in music.

    Anyway, Hitler’s idea of the Thousand Year Reich was one in which the arts would flourish. He wasn’t truly interested in STEM, but they’d obviously have continued in his Germanic Reich.

  375. AP says:
    @iffen

    Minuscule numbers of psychopaths and serial killers, millions and millions of kids torturing ants, spiders, frogs, cats, etc., do the math.

    While serial killers are indeed quite rare, psychopathy is not (about 1% of the population or so). I don’t know what % of the population regularly tortured “higher” animals such as cats, or perhaps frogs, as children (insects may be another matter) but probably not many, so it is likely that a high % of those that did ended up being psychopaths.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  376. @iffen

    crazy situations like reiner Tor who empathizes with flies but is opposed to sending surplus food to starving African children

    I’m opposed to unnecessary suffering. But by sending food (and antibiotics and vaccinations) to starving children you create more starving children in the future, which has already happened several times. This is why I’m opposed to continue this crazy practice of creating ever more suffering of African children.

    I love killing flies with a swatter.

    Me too. It doesn’t cause unnecessary suffering.

    My empathy balance falls somewhere between cock fighting and dog fighting

    I’m opposed to both. How can you support either?

  377. @LondonBob

    I only saw insects being tortured.

  378. AP says:
    @Mikhail

    Many people don’t have time to watch the video. Is there a transcript?

    Here’s a printed interview with an interview of Archbishop Job (Getcha) of Telmessos describing the absurdity of Moscow’s claims:

    https://risu.org.ua/en/index/expert_thought/interview/72711/

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  379. @Dmitry

    These two torture a frog for the afternoon, if I remember with a tennis racquet. It seems they have been doing this for some hours already before I arrived

    Children can be quite cruel, yes, but I do not think this is particularly peculiar.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alouette_(song)

  380. @DFH

    There were quite a lot of people living between Germany and the Urals who would have had to be removed for Germans to live there.

    Apparently, Orwell never saw that as a problem.

    • Replies: @utu
  381. utu says:
    @AaronB

    I used to live there. Anyway, thanks for the invitation. Perhaps sometimes.

  382. Dmitry says:
    @AP

    Proportion of evil children is definitely a lot higher than proportion of evil adults though (and even if you accept, evil adults are able to disguise better).

    I can remember dozens of examples, which as adults would be appalled.

    If you remember, how at school, it was – when we sensed any kind of weakness. The instant reaction, to exploit it, where in teachers or other children.

    There was a weak kid in our school, and even if only a few would beat him – even as nice kids (which I always was) you don’t want to talk to him in public.

    Likewise, an unpopular girl with red curly hair, and when we sit behind her and secretly throw pieces of paper we chewed, so that it would get into her hair.

    There’s a switch that happens at about age 13 or 14 (?), when starting to develop some morality and principles (obviously not all achieve this).

    I don’t know what % of the population regularly tortured “higher” animals such as cats, or perhaps frogs, as children

    Well I remember this girl and boy, who were torturing a frog, bouncing it with a tennis racquet. When I arrived with this family, they were behaving like it was just the most normal entertainment

    I never see them again. But pretty sure they are just normal adults, with some bad karma developed for their next life (I guess they were torturing animals instead of computer games). Although even at that age, I could not understand how they enjoyed doing something that evil and unpleasant.

  383. Talha says:
    @Peter Frost

    Is animal torture good for character development?

    I’m fairly sure every religious tradition does not condone such behavior so that’s a fairly good sign.

    Some societies seem to adopt it on a public scale though. I remember reading about a practice in parts of medieval Europe where they would put oil on a cat and light it on fire and let it run around until it died. However, if I recall, it was connected to them thinking the cat was a witch or connected to harmful witchcraft which, if true, one could make the case it was to ward off a perceived harm and not just wanton cruelty.

    Peace.

  384. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    I listened to the interview for about 11 minutes, and gave up on it for I’m getting ready for work and don’t have the time right now to listen to it in its entirety. Typical Russian bemoaning of what’s inevitably going to happen. I think that you’re wasting your time in trying to gain any sympathy for the MP here. Karlin himself very recently characterized Patriarch Kyril and the higher echelon of the MP of being tainted by criminal activity. Most of the readers of this column are secularists, and don’t really have any interest in Church politics. I’m still waiting for Brother Nathaniel’s take on the whole matter, which I’m sure will encapsulate an opinion that you’ll find satisfying. :-)

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  385. iffen says:
    @reiner Tor

    This is why I’m opposed to continue this crazy practice of creating ever more suffering of African children.

    How much suffering is created in the future by creating physically and mentally stunted people by malnourishment? That malnourished human capital doesn’t have much of a chance of making Africa great again.

  386. iffen says:
    @reiner Tor

    I’m opposed to both. How can you support either?

    I don’t “support” either one. Although, I point out that it was part of a cultural genocide for the Puritanites to impose sanctions on the blood sports enjoyed by the Scotch-Irish. But that is a different matter.

    All I mean is that suffering dogs evoke an emotional response in me that suffering roosters do not.

    Roosters and dogs naturally fight. The “improper” part on the part of humans is confining them so that one cannot withdraw as would be the normal response. I don’t feel any remorse for having enjoyed natural cock fights in the barnyard that I saw when I was a child. I would not feel right in confining and facilitating the fighting just for the purpose of seeing them fight.

    All this is not cut and dried. I am repulsed by dogs being kept in large cages called apartments, just like I am repulsed by seeing big cats and primates being kept in cages in zoos. No such response to seeing reptiles, arachnids, insects and fish in glass cages.

    • Replies: @Talha
  387. @reiner Tor

    Ethiopia seems to be doing OK after the famines in the 80s when a Commie dictator was at war with his opponents. In any case starvation is usually caused by a combination of natural disasters and political breakdown not just because there are more mouths to feed.

  388. iffen says:

    People that think many children can’t relish being cruel never went to middle school.

  389. utu says:
    @anonymous coward

    I have just happened to read some racial policy reports written by Dr. Erhard Wetzel ( the head of the Race-Political Office of the NSDAP) with annotation by Martin Bormann from 1939, 1940 and 1942 cornering demographic policy with respect to Poles, Jews, Russian and Ukrainians.

    Concerning Russian all he recommends is to keep the birth rate lower than that of Germans. Mostly by means of propaganda and education and promotion of abortions and by promoting anti-family policies like breaking up marriages by preferential drafting married men for work in Germany. Also promotion of voluntary sterilization. Educating Russian doctors and midwives in various procedures.

    “All we want is to weaken the Russian nation so it won’t be a threat to German leadership in Europe.”

    Ukrainians should be promoted as a counterweight to Russian dominance but not to the extent that they would replace Russians.

    The emphasis is on negative eugenics but there is no hint (at least in the documents I saw) of extermination.

    What I found most interesting is that still in October 1940 he proposes the same policy with respect of Poles and Jews to deprive them of rights in political, national and cultural domain. But, and this is stunning, that Jews should get little bit more rights in cultural and economic domain than Poles so some administrative and economic decisions would be made with some participation of Jews because Poles would be even more trammeled economically by Jews.

    It is interesting that in October 1940 the head of the Race-Political Office of the NSDAP had no inkling of coming Holocaust. At that time ghettos were being created for Jews in Polish cities which initially were welcomed by Jews as they were promised greater autonomy than Poles outside of the ghettos on the so-called Aryan side. In Warsaw there were cases of Poles hiding in the Jewish ghetto when there were roundups on the Aryan side. There was even a flourishing business of selling Jewish arm bands withs the Star of David for Poles so the could pretend to be Jews. (this is per Emanuel Ringelblum). This did not last however.

    The above info is from 1958 publication by Auschwitz Museum (Zeszyty Oswiecimskie) starting at p.43.

    • Replies: @Raymie
  390. @Dmitry

    I thought he was talking about MacDonalds!

    It’s this:

    Speaking about MacDonalds, the main difference from Moscow is no waiting lines (if there is, than no more than 2-3 people) and that employees don’t have to work at crazy speed. Customers in my area are mostly retirees who don’t treat it as a fast food place, but as a café where they sit and chat in good company. So the atmosphere is quite chill. Food looks ugly (at least the small cheeseburger that I always order) but is edible. They make a point it’s sourced from Canadian farmers, that is natural to be proud of if you’re next door to the giant agricultural industry of the US and still eat your own.

  391. Talha says:
    @iffen

    just for the purpose of seeing them fight.

    Rarely is this the case. Across every culture in which these types of events take place it is always driven by money. There is always gambling involved. If you can remove that, the entire enterprise would collapse. Nobody is going to spend the time (and money) raising and training some animal to fight simply to see it maul or get mauled by another animal with no compensation.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @iffen
  392. Raymie says:
    @utu

    The Nazi attitude to Polish people was a bit like Margaret Sanger’s attitude to blacks – no outright violent genocide, but a “soft genocide” by giving them incentive to abort and contracept themselves out of existence.

    Also note that the Nazis promoted free abortions and porn cinemas in Poland, much like today’s Israeli Jews broadcasting porn to the Palestinians. (There’s an E Michael Jones essay about this weaponized use of porn).

    • Replies: @utu
  393. @Peter Frost

    I once dissected insects because their internals were fascinating under a magnifying glass. It occurred to me later that what I did was horrific.

  394. @Talha

    I used to pitch spiders against ants for no monetary compensation. No training involved, though.

    • Replies: @Talha
  395. Talha says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Yeah, but that’s not really the same. One of those will become food for the other – you are simply facilitating the process.

    This is likely the level of what would remain if one takes money out of it:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  396. Talha says:
    @Talha

    Oops – I meant to post this as an example of how pitting insects against each other is often used to do research:

    You probably had that same idea, though on a rudimentary level.

  397. utu says:
    @Raymie

    “soft genocide” – Not even that. They called it the negative eugenics (abortions, sterilizations, breakage of families) as opposed to the positive eugenics for Germans. Germans were to outbreed Poles, Russians and Ukrainians.

    The reason I posted it was to show that there were no plans of extermination of Russian or Poles and certainly not of Ukrainians who were to be encourage to counterweight Russians. Even no extermination plans for Jews who were supposed to be given more cultural and economic autonomy than Poles at that time.

    • Replies: @AP
  398. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Good point, Talha. That must be why the PTB recently extended the betting franchise for football and other sports.

    However, it doesn’t really cover ‘coon hunting, fox hunting, coyote hunting with greyhounds, etc., or the UFC for that matter.

    • Replies: @Talha
  399. @LondonBob

    A lot depends on how one views the act of killing. My schoolmates tortured frogs probably because their sense of empathy was not fully developed. In the case of adults, there was usually some kind of rationale. It’s impossible to hunt, fish, or trap without inflicting some suffering. It’s a necessary evil. No one wants to cause suffering but it’s impossible to live without making others suffer.

    Are kittens higher animals? If you put a newborn kitten in a bag and hold it under water, doesn’t it suffer? I don’t think anyone enjoyed killing kittens, but it was seen as a necessary — and frequent — practice. Better to kill a kitten quickly than to let it die slowly on the street.

    I knew Ojibway people as a kid, and they felt that killing was an act of righteousness. If you kill an animal, you free its soul from its body, and it can be reincarnated in a new body. Conversely, the animal performs an act of righteousness by giving up its meat so that a human may eat. They would also reproach us White people for taking their land without killing. Instead, we took their land by using clever words.

    I knew all of these people in the stone age of the 1970s. Today, I imagine that 95% of young Canadians have no contact at all with killing. Is that a good thing? I sometimes wonder.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @iffen
  400. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AP

    That video is roughly a half hour. Those interested and spending time on such an issue have no good excuse not too watch or listen to it. Hilarion addresses the absurdity of Poroshenko and Telmessos.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/worlds-apart-oksana-boyko/438555-orthodox-community-christian-history/

    • Replies: @AP
  401. AP says:
    @utu

    The reason I posted it was to show that there were no plans of extermination of Russian or Poles and certainly not of Ukrainians who were to be encourage to counterweight Russians.

    1940 and, say, 1942 were rather different times. Nazis did choose to not feed Russian and Ukrainian POWs, leading to the starvation deaths of millions of them (Ukrainian POWS were often given the choice of working in concentration camps). Nazis did, also, starve about a million central and eastern Ukrainians while taking grain out of the country. Another 750,000 people were starved during the siege of Leningrad. 100,000s were shipped to Germany for slave labor.

    Galicia was under a different administration and Ukrainians there were treated fairly well. For ethnic Ukrainians there, Nazi occupation was a respite from Soviet horrors. One of my grandparents moved from Kharkiv (a place to flee to when the ancestral village a few hours from Kiev was starved) to Lviv in 1939 and stayed when the Germans took over. Life was certainly freer for ethnic Ukrainians in Lviv under the Germans, than in Kharkiv under the Soviets. Less likelihood or arrest and deportation, peasants mostly left alone, Church left alone, lighter censorship, etc. Most of the other ethnic Ukrainian “skhidyaks” (“Easterners”) who had come to Lviv in 1939 concurred and escaped West rather than live through the return of the Soviet nightmare.

    • Replies: @utu
  402. AP says:
    @Mikhail

    Why listen for half an hour to something that can be read in 5-10 minutes?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  403. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    But the issue is the established Ukrainian Orthodox Church’s preference, which didn’t ask for the state and Bart to interfere on a religious matter.

    Brother Nathaniel has some valid points:

    As for corruption in the ROC – Filaret and Porky don’t look less corrupt. With the ROCOR and UOC-MP as examples, the ROC-MP isn’t Soviet like in its behavior towards other churches.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mr. Hack
  404. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AP

    Why listen for half an hour to something that can be read in 5-10 minutes?

    To get a better understanding of the issues.

  405. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Yeah – game hunting has generally been of a different nature than having animals maul each other for profit. Usually the pay off in game hunting is either the animal skin or keeping up shooting/tracking skills or the like.

    I know on our side, the ulema have generally considered hunting for sport either disliked or outright haram due to prohibitions on using animals for target practice or to kill them without regard for food or perhaps as fur for clothing, etc. If I recall, the Shafi’is and Hanbalis completely prohibit hunting any animal that cannot be consumed.

    What’s up with UFC by the way, can you bet on it like people do with boxing?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  406. utu says:
    @Peter Frost

    American Indians liked to kill very slowly.

    Juha Hiltunen “Spiritual and religious aspects of torture and scalping among the Indian cultures in Eastern North America, from ancient to colonial times”

    The most dramatic data comes from osteological examinations of burial grounds and massacre sites. One site in particular is a prime example. It is the Crow Creek archaeological ground in the Middle Missouri region, where the historical Mandan and Hidatsa tribes lived. It has been dated to around 1300 ad. What is astonishing here is a mass grave of about 500 men, women, and children, which almost all have been mutilated, tortured and scalped (Arkush & Allen 2006, Case 2010, Dye 2009: 131–2, Keeley 1996, LeBlanc 1999, Smith 1991). This prehistoric killing field stands as a horrible Pol Potian kind of landmark in Native American history

    In the eastern areas of North America it was quite common, especially among the matrilineal tribes, that the active torturers were women and children. This is a logical element in humiliating a male victim, whose masculinity is

    The victims were treated with certain respect, which may seem strange. This is manifested especially in the way in which the torturers spoke with them. According to this etiquette, the victims were metaphorically seen as beloved relatives, whose fate was to be a sacrified offer .

    A Place Under Heaven: Amerindian Torture and Cultural Violence in Colonial New France, 1609-1729

    https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1174&context=dissertations_mu

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  407. AP says:
    @Mikhail

    But the issue is the established Ukrainian Orthodox Church’s preference, which didn’t ask for the state and Bart to interfere on a religious matter

    The established Orthodox Church is down to about 20% support in Ukraine. Another 40% to 50% Orthodox belong to the schismatic Church, and the rest of the Orthodox don’t care either way. It is silly to give such a small minority of Orthodox veto power over Church matters and to allow them to keep millions of believers outside the true Church.

    Once the schismatics are brought back into the fold, under Constantinople, and some % of the Moscow Church’s followers and priests follow (Poroshenko, currently a deacon in the Moscow Church, is an example) the Moscow loyalists may be down to 15% of Orthodox believers in Ukraine.

    BTW, did you know that Constantinople never recognized Mazepa’s anathema by the Moscow Church?

    https://risu.org.ua/en/index/all_news/culture/history/72689/

    The Ecumenical Patriarchate never recognized the canonical anathema that was imposed on the Ukrainian Hetman, Ivan Mazepa, by the Russian Orthodox Church.

    The representative of the Ecumenical Patriarchate at the World Council of Churches in Geneva, Archbishop Job (Getcha) of Telmessos said this in in an interview with Glavkom.

    According to him, it was imposed on the hetman for political reasons. “Despite the impossibility of imposing the non-canonical anathema on Hetman Mazepa on the part of the Russian Church, the representatives of the Ecumenical Patriarchate did not recognize it, since it was imposed for political motives as a means of political and ideological repression and did not have any religious, theological or canonical grounds,” he said.

    Archbishop Job explained that after the first demolition of the Zaporizhia Sich by the Russian troops in 1709, the Ukrainian Cossacks, which passed under the protectorate of the Crimean Khan, returned to the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, and Mazepa, along with Pylyp Orlyk, were among the first to do so.

    “Having emigrated to Bendery, Ivan Mazepa freely confessed to Orthodox priests of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. They consoled him on his deathbed and absolved his sins, and then performed a burial service for him. His body was buried in the Orthodox church of the town of Varnitsa, which was under the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, and subsequently reburied in the city of Galats on the Dunai River, where in the central cathedral of St. George Monastery the local metropolitan served a burial for the reposed Hetman. This Metropolitan was the hierarch of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. Consequently, we can say that Ivan Mazepa died as a faithful of the Mother Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate!” the Hierarch of the Ecumenical Patriarchate emphasized.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  408. utu says:
    @AP

    Another 750,000 people were starved during the siege of Leningrad

    They could have surrendered. While USSR was not a signatory of any of many war conventions, I think, but pre Revolution Russia was and according to some conventions the responsibility for civilian death falls on who turns a city into a fortress. This applies to Warsaw 1939 and Rotterdam 1940 civilian death because of German bombardment. The defenders of the city may not use a human shield.

    Starving Soviet POWs what a horrible crime and even greater stupidity.

    I do not know much about Eastern and Central Ukraine and famine there. I will try to educate myself. However I tend to be skeptical of Soviet sources and recent turns of events does not gives much hope that under the paranoid nationalism in Ukraine honest history will be written any time soon. Actually, on the second thought it never will. Only if Germans finally wake up and try to reclaim history some balance could be restored. This is very unlikely. German_reader would not allow it. He does not want a different history. Germany is full of German_readers.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @German_reader
  409. iffen says:
    @Talha

    a different nature than having animals maul each other for profit

    The key feature is the question of why some people, some of the time, enjoy watching spectacles of violence and savagery.

    Do you suppose that there was a betting line at the Coliseum on the Christians vs. the lions?

    • Replies: @Talha
  410. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    And you’d like to try to convince anybody who’s even remotely familiar with Russia and its Orthodox church that they don’t share a symbiotic relationship between Church and state? It’s even enshrined within the Russian constitution. Why even Patriarch Kyril, has an office in the Kremlin close to his hero, Putin. Why haven’t you ever bemoaned this mutually parasitic relationship, oh hypocritical, Mickey?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  411. iffen says:
    @Peter Frost

    “Free” kittens are often snatched up by the people who train pit bulls for the ring.

  412. iffen says:
    @utu

    German_reader would not allow it. He does not want a different history. Germany is full of German_readers.

    Just because he’s not a f****ing Nazi doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about Germany.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @utu
  413. Talha says:
    @iffen

    why some people, some of the time, enjoy watching spectacles of violence and savagery.

    Not sure but I think the growth of the torture-porn film genre is banking on the numbers. What number is SAW on now?

    Do you suppose that there was a betting line at the Coliseum on the Christians vs. the lions?

    I’d be surprised if there wasn’t honestly. Something tells me, if you have no scruples about watching people getting eaten alive by animals, you probably aren’t going to get moralistic about not turning it into a capitalist franchise.

    Peace.

  414. @utu

    I’ve stated before that I find some of the Soviet/Russian casualty numbers dubious (e.g. there’s no way imo that 2 million Soviet forced labourers died in Germany itself, as is apparently claimed in the official Russian casualty count of 27 million dead Soviet citizens). There’s certainly grounds for some WW2 revisionism. However, I don’t see how one could explain away the fact that Nazi goals and conduct were fundamentally criminal and that German policy led to millions of civilian deaths in occupied countries.
    Anyway, it doesn’t really matter, Germany may be especially suicidal, but in the end it’s the same story in every Western country. It would be foolish to believe the nation-wrecking project of mass immigration could be stopped simply by adopting a different perspective on WW2.

    • Replies: @utu
  415. iffen says:

    In light of recent developments, it appears that Peter’s decision to ban loony neo-Nazi commenters, even if for legalistic rather that political or ethical reasons, was the right decision.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  416. @iffen

    Bit hard to ban them, when Unz review’s founder has pretty much endorsed some of their views.
    But yes, Peter Frost was probably wise to leave Unz review when he did.

    • Replies: @iffen
  417. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    He didn’t “leave” the Unz Enquirer. He got booted because he banned R. Unz from his comment section.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  418. @iffen

    I thought he left “voluntarily”, because he didn’t get the moderating powers he felt he needed because of Canada’s anti-”hate speech” laws.
    In any case, good to see he’s got his own blog again.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  419. anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Utu is germanic as well. Let them argue the course of their people.

  420. utu says:
    @German_reader

    I think I know your position. It was a hyperbole on my part. But at least you have come out of self imposed exile.

    Could you explain to me the following episode of which I have learned recently. When Field Marshal Erich von Manstein was relieved from his duties in 1944 in October of the same year he bought for himself expensive land property in Western Pomerania. In October 1944 Red Army was sitting already on Vistula river line. What was he thinking? He was one of the smartest generals Hitler had. Did he plan to retire there? Did he think that war somehow would stop? Was he a fatalist in denial?

    I agree that “the nation-wrecking project of mass immigration [would not] be stopped simply by adopting a different perspective on WW2″ but it could help.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  421. utu says:
    @iffen

    Wanting some rectification of history is NAZI? Do you think that German children could not handle the fact that it was the RAF that began bombing cities that were not under a siege? And it took Hitler two weeks of hand-wringing before he retaliated.

    • Replies: @iffen
  422. @utu

    No idea what Manstein was thinking. Some Germans certainly believed in final victory until late in the war. My grandfather (who was with some kind of Luftwaffe logistics unit in Belarus) told his parents early in 1944 that they could forget about Germany winning the war, it was just a matter of getting out of it alive…but they wouldn’t believe it, said he didn’t see the big picture and should keep his mouth shut, or else he could get into trouble. But of course their situation wasn’t comparable to Manstein’s who had access to all the relevant information. Maybe Manstein deluded himself that the anti-German coalition would break up due to the contradictions between the capitalist West and the Soviets, as did some others in the Nazi leadership. I doubt there’s a completely rational explanation.

  423. iffen says:
    @utu

    Rectify all you want, just don’t pretend that you are not a Nazi.

    Man up.

  424. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    He had moderation of his comment section like Sailer and AK. It was taken away by R. Unz because Peter kept banning Nazis including Unz.

  425. @reiner Tor

    I am reasonably sure that there’s a good correlation between intelligence and suffering capacity.

    So I’m sure torturing flies is fine, if you’re into that.

    I had some amusing spats with the EA people over this, over what I assume to be a rather obvious point!

  426. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AP

    The folks in Constantinople aren’t the Vatican. The UOC-MP has been under constant state pressure, thereby explaining any decrease of its congregants. Similar pressure appears to have been put on Filraet, noting the quick about face on his part, after he wrote a letter to the ROC-MP seeking a way to end the differences at hand. Bart and Porky will have a tough time uniting the involved churches.

    Mazepa betrayed the OC nation opposing the imperialism of non-OC entities. After the defeat of the latter, Mazepa might’ve (as has been claimed) sought a reconciliation with Russia, which understandably rejected such.

  427. @German_reader

    While I have no quarrel with Peter Front, banning the chief editor of the site you write for seems… let’s just say hardcore.

    Also useless ofc.

    And IIRC it was due to disagreements about Frost’s genetic pacification theory, not because of Nazism or whatever.

    I am surprised it took you and iffen this long to discover Peter Frost’s blog. I have linked it a few times in previous Open Threads.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @iffen
    , @iffen
  428. @Anatoly Karlin

    I am surprised it took you and iffen this long to discover Peter Frost’s blog.

    No, I already found it months ago (iirc shortly before you first mentioned it), that was just a general statement that it’s nice he hasn’t completely stopped writing on the net.
    I suppose though he gets much less traffic on his blog than he did on Unz review.

  429. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I am surprised it took you and iffen this long to discover Peter Frost’s blog.

    I read Evo before I read you. He had the hiatus before blogging again.

    This has come up before and you took Unz’s side then as well.

    Frame it like you want to, but the issue was Nazis clogging Peter’s comment section. I was there (here).

  430. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Upon further review, the Russian government has similar ties with those of the Muslim, Jewish and Buddhist faiths oh so very ignorant Hack.

    Moreover, Putin isn’t doing things like telling the Old Believers that they must merge with the ROC-MP.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  431. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    In light of recent developments, it appears that Peter’s decision to ban loony neo-Nazi commenters, even if for legalistic rather that political or ethical reasons, was the right decision.

    And IIRC it was due to disagreements about Frost’s genetic pacification theory, not because of Nazism or whatever.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  432. iffen says:

    I’m signing off to watch The Longest Day.

    F*** all you ‘Murica haters.

  433. @iffen

    Razib Khan was banning people right and left for all sorts of reasons and so far as I could see Ron had absolutely zero problems with that.

    So the dispute obviously wasn’t about general moderation policy.

    I do not think I am exactly “supporting” Ron when I say that if I’m providing a platform for and possibly paying a contributor to my site, and he proceeds to BAN me from a section of my own website, that I’d remain particularly well disposed to that person, or indeed be at all enthusiastic about keeping him on as a contributor.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Peter Frost
  434. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Intellectual integrity, AK, inte-fucking-llectual integrity, AK.

    I’m watching my movie now, which starts with the French Resistance. Vive la France.

  435. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Upon further review, the Russian government has similar ties with those of the Muslim, Jewish and Buddhist faiths

    Apparently, your further review was very one sided and limited:

    The 2002 Law on Extremism, amended in July 2006, can affect religious groups, particularly Muslim groups, by criminalizing a broad spectrum of activities. For example, Mansur Shangareev was convicted of extremism and sentenced to 2 years in prison for “actively adhering to a radical trend of Islam” that claimed superiority over mainstream Islam, and for making “remarks to Muslim girls about their immodest dress”, among other things.

    The 2006 amendments allow some charges of extremism where people are alleged to have defended or expressed sympathy with other individuals already charged with extremism.

    Laws against extremism have been tightened over time. The 2016 Yarovaya Law, named after politician Irina Yarovaya, extends the legal restrictions against extremism to include evangelism by minority faiths.[4][5][6][7]

    On May 5, 2015, customs authorities in Russia seized a shipment of religious literature containing Ossetian-language Bibles published by Jehovah’s Witnesses. Russian customs officials in the city of Vyborg held up a shipment of 2,013 Russian-language copies of Bibles on July 13, 2015. Customs authorities confiscated three of the Bibles, sent them to an “expert” to study the Bibles to determine whether they contained “extremist” language, and impounded the rest of the shipment.[8]

    On July 21, 2015, the Russian Federation Ministry of Justice added Jehovah’s Witnesses official website to the Federal List of Extremist Materials thereby making it a criminal offense to promote the website from within the country and requiring Internet providers throughout Russia to block access to the site.[9][10]

    On March 23, 2017, the Russian News Agency TASS reported, “Russia’s Justice Ministry has suspended the activities of the religious organization calling itself Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia due to its extremist activities.”[11] The Supreme Court of Russia is scheduled on April 5 to hear a request by the Russian Justice Ministry to declare Jehovah’s Witnesses an extremist organization

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Russia

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  436. @utu

    Aztec demon worship seems almost more sensible.

  437. @Anatoly Karlin

    Anatoly,

    I never had full moderation control at Unz.com. For the first several months I had no control at all. I then worked out an agreement with Ron that should have given me moderation control (in exchange for shutting down my website and redirecting the traffic to Unz.com), but he interpreted that agreement narrowly. Essentially, I was given the right to delete comments that could be prosecuted in a U.S. court of law.

    Unfortunately, the Canadian legal environment is very different, and it became even worse with the new Liberal governments, first in Quebec City and then in Ottawa. Things are different in Canada and one has to act accordingly.

    I had a second reason for leaving Unz.com: his letter to the Harvard Crimson, in which he described Gregory Cochran as an “extreme rightwinger.” I understand that Ron and Greg are not on good terms, but this is something that should be settled between the two of them … and not in a public venue, like Harvard’s student newspaper.

    FWIW I never banned Ron from my comments section. There was one time when I closed that section because the debate was turning into a cat fight. Everyone was invited to calm down and continue commenting later, with the publication of a subsequent column on the same subject. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to tell people to take a breather and wait a couple of days.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  438. @Peter Frost

    Thanks for these details, and laying out your version of the dispute.

    Just FTR I have no dog in these unfortunate disagreements (which I hope may be resolved sometime).

    • Replies: @iffen
  439. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Just FTR I have no dog in

    It is uncivilized to put a dog in a fight. We settled this up thread. So you are safe.

    FWIW

    AK commentariat universal “Bad Things”:

    1) Cannibalism
    2) Dog fighting

    • Replies: @Talha
  440. Talha says:
    @iffen

    The two postulates which, when taken together, land us firmly at what AaronB has been advocating all along: rejection of dog-eat-dog existence.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  441. iffen says:
    @reiner Tor

    But by sending food (and antibiotics and vaccinations) to starving children you create more starving children in the future,

    I would like to believe this is your motivation, but I can’t shake the suspicion that you simply think (in part) that there are already too many Africans in the world.

    You present your view as a rational decision, but you haven’t explained why this comment of mine is wrong:

    How much [more]suffering is created in the future by creating physically and mentally stunted people by malnourishment?

  442. iffen says:
    @Talha

    rejection of dog-eat-dog existence.

    I do reject it.

    I’m just not sure what should replace it.

    More importantly, I’m not clear on what is possible, regardless of what we might envision.

    • Replies: @Talha
  443. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Well, don’t know if this helps, but it is a classic and I’ve always been fond of Poe…

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48633/the-conqueror-worm

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  444. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    You’re jumping to other issues that are different from your claim which I debunked concerning Putin and Orthodox Christianity.

    Germany and some other nations have set some stances concerning Islam that are not less stringent than what you mention. What you bring up is a counter-reply to a clearly (at least to most) extreme Islamic view seeking to dictate to other Muslims.

    Regarding the JW:

    https://www.rt.com/news/385539-jehovah-witnesses-ban-russia/

    Somewhat reminded of this South Park episode:

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-1

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-2

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-3

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  445. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Thanks. I am not a poetry fan in general, and in particular, not of this crackhead.

    Although, The Raven is not so bad.

    I tend toward stories and novels. The Tell-Tale Heart is very good.

    I was thinking of more substance rather than soup.

    • Replies: @Talha
  446. Talha says:
    @iffen

    I am not a poetry fan in general

    That’s too bad, it’s one of the pleasures of life.

    The Raven is not so bad.

    I like The Bells also.

    The Tell-Tale Heart is very good.

    He was a master of great short stories though; Mask of the Red Death, Cask of the Amontillado, Fall of the House of Usher, etc. Maybe you need to be high to write the stuff he did. I’m surprised he didn’t write the Monkey’s Paw actually.

    I was thinking of more substance rather than soup.

    I wish I had an answer, bro – I don’t. I don’t know if it’s possible to change things without massive collapse or something cataclysmic. I can say a couple of things:
    1) If I were to die tomorrow, I will have lived a life that the majority of human beings that have ever set foot on this planet would not be able to come close to – and that includes the great emperors and kings of the past (that’s right Charlemagne, I’ve eaten really good Thai food and you didn’t, so there)
    2) We should all do our best to do our part to fight the good fight, the struggle is part of the journey: “What we do in life, echoes in eternity.” – Marcus Arelius

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  447. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Certainly not more corrupt than Porky, the Kiev regime at large and Filaret.

    You’re like a punch drunk boxer, who doesn’t realize that he has been knocked out.

    Reminded of Porkly’s latest mishap:

    http://tass.com/world/1023083

  448. Mr. Hack says:

    Certainly not more corrupt than Porky, the Kiev regime at large and Filaret.

    Well, at least you’re finally starting to admit that old Putler and the ROC are corrupt. Whether its more or less corrupt that in neighboring Ukraine, is a good first step. And you’re like a punch drunk boxer all tangled up in the ropes looking or a way to make an exit! :-)

    That’s you on the ground, Mickey. There are more views of you making your exit coming up!

  449. Mikhail says: • Website

    Some devastating blows for sure.

    What I’m actually suggesting is that corrupt can be quite relative.

  450. iffen says:
    @Talha

    I am not a poetry fan in general

    That’s too bad, it’s one of the pleasures of life.

    I’m lowbrow, and one of the pleasures of my life is not constantly fighting against that realization. :)

    I tend to like movies and especially memorable lines like Jessica Lange’s in Country:

    “…when you come out to pull us off of our land, you better come with more than a piece of paper.”

    • Replies: @Talha
  451. Talha says:
    @iffen

    I’m lowbrow

    Based on what I’ve seen from your interactions, you’re selling yourself short – but humility is a virtue.

    movies and especially memorable lines

    Well then, you are in luck:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  452. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Excellent! We can also turn it around and say that eternity echoes in our lives.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  453. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Since this is an open thread – this was classic:

    Did you get the dig with “Spencer Ricard”?

    Peace.

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