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Moreover, it might well even be closer to what some of us deride as “cuckservatism” in the Euro-American context.

At least, this is what Koenraad Elst, a dissident Indology professor, argued back in Nov 2016: The Modi Government as an Exponent of BJP Secularism.

I would suggest you read the whole thing – the article is quite short – but here are the most telling extracts:

In spite of having a more homogeneous majority, it is reluctant to do anything pro-Hindu or perceivable as anti-minority. On the contrary, one of its first acts was to decree a new subsidy to Islamic schools. The stray Hindutva statements by loose cannon (Akshay Maharaj, Jyoti Niranjan) were followed by retractions, condemnations by Government spokesmen, and indignant innuendos by Modi-friendly journalists (Tavleen Singh, Swapan Dasgupta). Public reconversions by the allied VHP, heavily publicized and demonized by the media, were promptly discouraged by the Government. Having learned from Vajpayee’s 2004 defeat, though, Modi does “keep the pot boiling”, does regularly throw crumbs of inconsequential Hindu symbolism to his support base, all while not formally changing anything.

However, if many BJP workers are disappointed with this Government, is not for what it does but mainly for what it persistently fails to do. Thus, it inducted no figures with a strongly ideological profile (Arun Shourie, Subramanian Swamy). Likewise, some public figures who had crossed the floor (e.g. Madhu Kishwar) were conspicuously not rewarded — a fact not considered here for disgruntled ego reasons but for illustrating the BJP’s lack of strategy: it doesn’t put people who have actually sacrificed for the BJP to any use, while awarding positions of influence to unreliable newcomers motivated by sheer opportunism. While some things on the Hindu agenda are either useless to Hinduism (e.g. declaring a “Hindu Rashtra”) and others would arouse violent protests for which the media are sure to blame Modi (e.g. a Common Civil Code, though “secular” par excellence), others are perfectly feasible and, moreover, turn out to be the most consequential for the flourishing of Hinduism.

… The main reason is the long-standing deliberate lack of investment (pioneered by MS Golwalkar) in an intellectual and strategic vision of its own, the spurning of any analysis of the forces in the field and of the potential and limitations of the situation. It therefore also lacks competent personnel for the ideological struggle, e.g. for a textbook overhaul or, now, for nominating politically friendly new Vice-Chancellors. Consequently, most BJP leaders have an enormous inferiority complex vis-à-vis the secularists and, even when in office, try to live up to the norms laid down by their opponents.

Notice anything familiar? 🙂

Now I do not have the country expertise to assess to what extent he’s right, but it sounds plausible and syncs with various other tidbits that I have read. The fact that the Western media loses it over Hindu nationalists sooner supports rather than refutes this thesis.

 
• Category: Ideology • Tags: Cuckservatism, India, Nationalism 
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  1. Tulip says:

    It is probably more useful to view an elected politician as the ring master of a circus than a general conducting a campaign. Modi is doing a wonderful job running the Hindutva circus to the delight of his audience and for the benefit of the financial interests backing his production.

  2. neutral says:

    India has been cucked for millenia already. The Aryans that entered the lands 4000 years or so ago race mixed with the darker skinned natives. The end result that became India will be the end result everywhere else in the world if cuckservatism is not eradicated.

    • Replies: @gate666
    , @Anonymous
  3. The two Gypsy entities are in equilibrium. Their border hasn’t shifted in decades, indicating that Pakis are matching, or at least nearly matching, the military abilities of India. In this context, it’s difficult for BJP to be excessively Hindu, as that would trigger the Muslin minority, and perturb that equilibrium.

    However, let me know when any Indian state ban pig slaughters. Paying for Muslim schools merely creates several thousand sinecures without any impact on Indian Muslims. Tax a little so that billionaires are not upset, and spend it all on pointless sinecures – that is classical Indian gov mantra.

    No wonder Pakis are their match.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  4. In addition to the article being correct, right-wing Indians simply do not understand what they’re up against.

    They disdain SJWs as “NGO types”, but unlike China and Russia little thought is given to stopping foreign-funded NGOs from operating in the country and poisoning the well.

    Indians are shocked when I describe the sexual marketplace in the West to them, and Indian newspapers are full of salacious articles describing the dark consequences of premarital cohabitation and dating outside one’s “community”. But nothing is done to restrain India’s ongoing sexual revolution, nor is any thought given to it.

    The campaign to “educate” females has also been successful. Half of India’s medical school graduates are now women. Plenty of Indian students you meet abroad are women as well. You now even find married Indian women who kept their maiden names.

    India’s diaspora is completely useless as well. Other non-Western diasporas have noticed many of the harmful things going on in the West and actively warn their compatriots about this. For instance, Anatoly Karlin. Because Indians are so incredibly insular, they do not do this at all. Indians within the West don’t even know what’s going on around them.

    In short there is not much reason to expect that India will avoid the terrible consequences of “progress”.

  5. gate666 says:
    @neutral

    i dont think aryans arrived 4000 years ago.you should read razib.

  6. neutral says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    There is some hope, they are not as terrified when it comes to anything regarding Hitler:

    Here is an ice cream brand from India

    Here is a clothing store in India:

    They even have a bollywood movie with his name

    • Replies: @songbird
  7. anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Did you bang any of the women while there?

  8. songbird says:
    @neutral

    I think Hitler would have made a pretty good corporate trademark. He had a unique name and a unique, slightly comical appearance, like a more realistic Charlie Chaplin, or grown-up Alfalfa from Little Rascals.

    Of course, all that other stuff happened, so it would be hard to find an advertising firm in the West who would try to sell the stuff, and if they did all the commercials would be about miscegenationing gays, just like they are now.

  9. The article was written in 2016 and you can tell that even without looking on its date. The Modi government began with a lot of Anglophile technocrats. The previous time the BJP were in power, it was essentially a conservative-liberal government which a lot of people who could fairly be viewed as liberal. This time around, it began much the same but has ended a lot differently. Many Western-educated technocrats have been purged, much to the whining of the Anglophile media and the English-speaking establishment.

    Hindi has been promoted at the expense of English. Hinduism has taken a more prominent role. Even the Congress party has been forced onto the same path, with their ‘soft Hindutva’ change of direction (which they’ve come under fire from their left flank, but it shows where the center of gravity is going).

    Still, on issues such as feminism, homosexuality and (some) core hindutva tenets, the BJP has not done so well, especially the former two where they have essentially capitulated to the left-liberal paradigm.

    OTOH, they have been quite hardline on illegal muslim migration from Bangladesh into Assam and other places, which the previous government totally lost the ball on. They’ve also built a Big Beautiful Wall on their eastern border. India also has extremely strict citizenship laws, which have gotten stricter.

    So, all in all, they’ve done quite a lot more than the previous time the BJP was in office but there’s always room for improvement. Google ‘Yogi Adityanath’ if you want to see who the next likely BJP leader is. The BJP itself is undergoing an internal radicalisation and this will take time before its full effect is in full flowering.

  10. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @neutral

    That happened in Europe as well. Invaders from the steppe mixed with hunter gatherers and Middle Eastern farmers.

  11. that’s just one administration though. most hindus are nationalists, which is fair play. and if you ever work with or encounter lots of the indians in the US, it would be impossible to not come away with the idea they feel the same in america. they are politically active and seek to take over whatever they are interested in. as soon as they come into power, the other people go out, and all the new people in are indian.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  12. @Thorfinnsson

    “Indians within the West don’t even know what’s going on around them.”

    My Tamil colleagues in England (on six month contracts, equivalent to H1B in the States) were pretty shocked by the local High Street on a Friday night – the drunkenness, aggression and shameless half-dressed thottery – sampled once and then avoided.

  13. Modi does “keep the pot boiling”, does regularly throw crumbs of inconsequential Hindu symbolism to his support base

    Like those city names which sound ridiculous in English?

    Really, we should start calling it “Mollywood”, and see how they like it.

  14. @Thorfinnsson

    Other non-Western diasporas have noticed many of the harmful things going on in the West and actively warn their compatriots about this. For instance, Anatoly Karlin.

    Many Somalis, too.

  15. @YetAnotherAnon

    My Tamil colleagues in England (on six month contracts, equivalent to H1B in the States) were pretty shocked by the local High Street on a Friday night – the drunkenness, aggression and shameless half-dressed thottery – sampled once and then avoided.

    That would disturb Americans as well. The street drunkenness of Britain and Scandinavia is not looked upon well here, save for the occasional sports celebration or Shrove Tuesday observation. Otherwise, it could get you killed.

  16. @Dacian Julien Soros

    Both countries get a lot of their fresh water from Kashmir, so the de facto border there is likely to go nowhere short of outright nuclear war settling the matter.

  17. Jason Liu says:

    The BJP doesn’t need to be hardcore, they are flanked by smaller organizations that do the dirty work. Western countries have no equivalent because the left easily out-organizes the right in the West.

    But aside from that India is far too diverse, messy, and democratic to truly sustain actionable nationalism. Modi would probably be much tougher on NGOs or domineering foreign companies if he was an autocrat.

  18. @YetAnotherAnon

    Sampled once and then avoided.

    That’s it in a nutshell.

    They don’t get it.

  19. Dmitry says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Because in the front of the mind, is more the London gentlemen and Harry Potter.

    Maybe the Oxford High Table

    Or singing on the River Cam

    And then they go to England and more likely where they go the less glamorous people which are not described in the guidebook

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  20. Dmitry says:

    Most countries are “cuckservative”.

    Federal budget of the Russian Federation one of the greatest examples, where the largest budget deficit recipients are regions with majority non-Russian populations.

    But the officials are often the opposite of cuckservative, in their actual life. And this is similar to many Western countries.

    I believe Israel is also one of the most “cuckservative” in the world – Islamic Israeli politicians say in the parliament they want Israel to be destroyed, while they receive $110,000 salaries as employees of the Israeli government. Appointed Deputy Mayor of Israel’s third largest city (Haifa), is a supporter of Hezbollah. And they have affirmative action and scholarships for Arab students who are exempt from the army, while not for the Jews, who are in the army.

    In Israel, Arabs and Haredim avoid taxes and army, and have very high birthrates, but live from the Israelis who pay taxes and place their children in the army.

    Countries which are not “cuckservative”? Perhaps Poland and Hungary. These receive the EU funding, and yet avoid the problematic EU policies like immigration amnesty.

    However, a significant part of their population are working in low level positions in Western Europe.

    • Replies: @songbird
  21. songbird says:
    @Dmitry

    This is the interesting question: can you cuck internally without it eventually leading to opening the borders?

    In the case of India, it is a democracy, where upper caste Hindus make up a small slice of the population, ipso facto it cucks internally. How could it be otherwise? So, will it open the borders eventually? Well, there’s plenty of cheap labor in India. There’s actually a kind of instability because of it. But they brought in blacks before. Siddis and Sheedis.

    China sort of also cucks (perhaps psuedo-cucks?) but also has cheap labor, and perhaps more importantly, a political monopoly. Social credit system and surveillance state probably makes it easier to round aliens up. I wonder how many blacks could even circumvent the firewall, to tell their African cousins how much they like China. I suppose there are always phone calls.

    In the case of America, cucking obviously came from blacks already there. ( though there was a small amount from feather Indians) Not just the political pressures, but certain people probably already had their brains primed – wired more effectively by repeated stimulus – from cucking to blacks and getting a dopamine fix.

  22. L Garou says:

    I’m still awaiting the Great Indian novel, as per India and Islam.
    An apt title might be — “1000 Years Together”

  23. Yevardian says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Indians are shocked when I describe the sexual marketplace in the West to them, and Indian newspapers are full of salacious articles describing the dark consequences of premarital cohabitation and dating outside one’s “community”. But nothing is done to restrain India’s ongoing sexual revolution, nor is any thought given to it.

    Is that really true though? It seems whenever an Indian gets upset at white people on the internet they let loose with a laundry list of pornographic performers and accounts of Western degeneracy (usually misspelled and in ALLCAPS).

    I have noticed however that of all the immigrant groups where I live, Indians seem to have by far the fewest relationships outside of their race. Chinese, Koreans, Blacks and even Muslims with whites are seen commonly enough, but Indians very rarely. When I meet a mixed Indian their white ancestry almost always dates from colonial times.

  24. You do know there is a lot of healthy middle ground between a drunken open-air brothel and putting kids into arranged marriages based on a local astrologer comparing their horoscopes (Hindus infamously believe in that nonsense)? Normal life in the traditional West involved independent romantic relationships.

    Inevitably, informal betrothals and alliances arose; temporary relationships were entered into in good faith and broken when the couple moved on or found alternative partners. A verbal promise of marriage or “hand-fasting,” could be enough to licence physical relations, as proved the downfall of Katherine Howard, Henry VIII’s fifth queen. Less than two years after her marriage, it was discovered that she had enjoyed two lovers in her youth, which she had omitted to mention to her new husband. With one Francis Dereham, she had exchanged promises, gifts and spent many nights together in a shared dormitory as husband and wife. Witnesses famously recalled how they had “hung together” by the belly “like two sparrows.” Katherine might still have kept her head at this point but unfortunately for her, these enquiries led to the uncovering of her later adulterous affair and she went to the block in February 1542. Hand-fasting could even override later marriages in church, even if consummation had not taken place, as Henry tried to prove in the case of Anne Boleyn’s precontract to Henry Percy and successfully established to extract himself from an unwanted union with Anne of Cleves. Earlier, Anne Boleyn had conceived Elizabeth in December 1532, before her secret marriage to Henry took place in the new year. Promises could be made any time or any place: bedrooms, kitchens and fields witnessed secret agreements: it wasn’t until 1563 that the Council of Trent declared a marriage was void if not celebrated in front of a priest, although English law did not catch up until the eighteenth century.
    https://authorherstorianparent.blogspot.com/2011/10/naughty-tudors-historical-realities-of.html

    • Replies: @Anonny
  25. Anonny says:
    @Toronto Russian

    So to make the west look trad compared to even a degenerating India, you need half millenia old examples.

    Christianity is a feminist religion
    https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/whatever-happened-to-european-tribes/

  26. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    Indian PM is declared international terrorist by US

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