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Roosh V: Amazon Has Banned 9 Of My Books Without Explanation

Starting on Friday, September 7, Amazon has gone on a rampage and banned the paperback and Kindle editions of nine of my books, including my new release Game. The sales pages now give you an error message. Despite repeatedly trying to get answers from Amazon via phone and email, they will not tell me why the books have been removed. …

None of my books contain child rape scenes, physical abuse, pornography, or sexual violence, [like a whole bunch of other books that Amazon sells] and yet they were banned.

Were they banned because they were effective at helping men? Was it because executives at Amazon disagree with my political opinions? Was it an action from a rogue employee? They won’t tell me. Whatever the case, someone in the company clicked the delete button and I’m supposed to accept it, but it’s hard to do that when your livelihood depends on the basic assumption of fair business practices.

Is it just me, or is neoliberalism.txt really going on a rampage these past few days? (Just the other day, Sam Hyde’s subreddit /r/milliondollarextreme was shut down; a few days before that, @jack finally purged Alex Jones from Twitter).

Anyhow, I am aware that traditionalist and nationalist readers may have issues with Roosh V. Isn’t “game” driving licentiousness as surely as unleashed female hypergamy? Is it really a good idea to allow swarthy “players” such as Roosh into your country?

Well there’s a few things one can say to that.

1. It takes two to tango. As he himself has admitted, Roosh V is a product of modern society; there was no niche for people like him back in the 1960s. As for his international “bang” guides – well, the numbers of people who are going to embark on this “hobby”, damaging as they may be to the women in the countries they’ll drop by, are ultimately drops in an ocean. I am sure there are 1-2 orders of magnitudes more straight out sexpats in the Ukraine as opposed to aspiring Casanovas.

2. The rumors about Roosh V being a rapist are the result of a smear campaign. The only crime he is guilty of is being a humorless censor himself.

3. Needless to say, GloboHomoBezos is not “protecting” us from Roosh because he wants to maintain traditional values and/or secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

There’s no breaks on this train. To date, Amazon has mostly limited its censorship to Holocaust denial books; a disagreeable policy, to be sure, but tolerable so long as it remained the limit – which it did for an impressively long time. But now the Eye of Bezos has shifted its gave on the “manosphere”. It can’t be long before books on all sorts of other “controversial” topics become memoryholed and “contrarian” thinkers become unpersoned. It’s time to stop relying on that platform.

Here’s a quick guide to offshifting from the Amazon ecosystem:

1. Get pirated, DRM-free books at http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ (though do show the authors appreciation by sending a donation and/or formally buying their books if they deserve it)

2. Organize your book collection with Calibre.

3. Comprehensive guide to removing DRM from your existing, legal book collection at Apprentice Alf’s Blog.

4. I use the Moon Reader to read my e-books on my Android phone. Reputable e-book readers should all work with .epub format. There are plenty of free converters to epub (.mobi, .fb2) on the Internet.

PS. The blaqpill here is that here’s few people disciplined enough to wean themselves off Big Tech ecosystems so fully and radically (each sale on Amazon still contributes to Amazon’s $1 trillion+ valuation), and conscientious enough to reward content creators whose material they pirate. So neoliberalism.txt censorship is still going to be effective at stemming crimethink. Indeed, it may be more effective than the traditional, heavy-handed censorship practiced by ancien regimes, because criminalizing content outright just makes it cool.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    ROOSH V. IS A RAPIST AND HIS BOOKS ARE A MANUAL ON TRAPPING AND RAPING WHITE WOMEN.

    Though his political views are on the right side, I do not approve of aliens (in descent) like Roosh V. trapping white women and teaching others to do the same with books like “Bang”, “Bang Poland”, and “Bang (country X).”

    He admitted in one of his books that he raped a white woman.

    White men would not need books like this if the aliens and blacks were not stealing so many white women and thereby creating a shortage of white women for white men. His books are adding to this problem by teaching aliens and black on how to trap and rape white women.

    Though I am against censorship (except in cases of porn or violence), his books fall in the latter 2 categories.

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  2. Creepy edits also happen with Amazon. Awhile ago, res and I were talking about a book where he found errors and I couldn’t. Same book, but in my Kindle version, Amazon subtly changed each error he had found.

    Minor and all, but this wasn’t even reflected in an edition change of the book(could easily just call it 1.1). The mistakes were just erased, ex nihilo. Creepy.

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  3. @Rational

    Yeah, isn’t it funny how there is no “Bang India” book? The dude should be fucking castrated. Instead, Karlin wants to give him money.

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  4. @Rational

    Though I am against censorship (except in cases of porn or violence)

    Snap your dick off and stab yourself in the eye.

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  5. Brabantian says: • Website

    There is indeed a moral question here about sexual exploitation, and it’s interesting how often guys on various manosphere-theme sites talk about this

    There are a lot of voices that say, the real manly thing to do is wife-up, have a family, and not be scum serially dumping your sexual partners

    Maybe the original classic in this genre, is a 1987 book by R. Don Steele, ‘How to Date Young Women, for Men Over 35′ (AK too young for it yet), sold via anarchist mail-order booksellers in the pre-internet era, and still a popular item, with a lot of ‘wicked truth’ about the female mind

    That classic tome even has some favourable reviews on it on Roosh’s forum, people saying that it’s actually still quite useful and has some tips even manosphere regular readers can learn from … A now much-older Don Steele is on YouTube reading from it and talking about it

    One side of the moral question, is that without ‘game’ as Roosh and others call it, without understanding female psychology, a lot of guys have trouble getting a wife or girlfriend or even a date, unless they learn to act masculine, be a bit of the ‘jerkboy’, as Château Heartiste often puts it

    But then, once you do have ‘game’, or travel to or engage a culture where you can exploit, you can be a scummy male mauling a series of women (not to deny that women often maul men)

    Men who can do it exploit women … women who can do it exploit men (the Western divorce-court-financial-rape machine, milking ‘beta orbiters’, the up to 10% of people in some places who have a different father than they were told they have)

    Too much psychopathy is in the relations of the sexes … was it always that way, just covered up by various artifices?

    One of the best themes of the ‘alt-right’ is that we all do need to get back to honouring the family … that may be a long road

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  6. AaronB says:

    Haha..stupid Roosh.

    What this will do is sift the wheat from the chaff.

    People who are primarily interested in selling naive stupid people falsehoods they want to hear for the purpose of making lots of money (all PUA writers) will be eliminated if they don’t please the Hegemony.

    The dedicated few who are not primarily interested in making money but have a genuine message to get across won’t mind a forced reduction in living standards and will find other distribution channels like mailing lists or aristocratic patronage. Unfortunately I do not think too many manosphere writers are the noble selfless type lol :)

    This will separate the men from mice and show the depth and commitment of your revolutionary fervor.

    What, did you think your little revolution was going to be painless? Hardship is a spiritual proving ground.

    Time to show your idealism and willingness to sacrifice, Right Wingers!

    Lol.

    Right. That’s what I thought. I guess you had fun for awhile, though.

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  7. @AaronB

    If you kill your enemies, they win.

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  8. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Only those who can withstand the attempt to kill them have any chance of winning.

    A-ha!

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  9. @AaronB

    Doesn’t mean that you should either embrace or celebrate it as some sort of “proving ground.” The victory usually involves being efficiently and manifestly unfair to those who seek your destruction.

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  10. DFH says:

    Roosh is nothing compared to Matt Forney, the alleged PUA now resident in Hungary (lucky them!), who looks like this, wrote a book called ‘Bang the Philippines’ and whose only known conquest is a middle-aged woman who was prostituting herself to her coke dealer for discounts.

    https://archive.fo/2q628

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  11. notanon says:

    i suspect that out-sourcing their political censorship campaign to minimum wage but fanatical blue hairs will be what ushers in the next stage of this completely unnecessary mess.

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  12. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    My point is simply that I doubt the alt-right can muster the necessary idealism and self sacrifice to hold out in any culture war when it gets tough. And certainly not the manosphere section of it lol.

    In my time “engaging” with the alt right I have observed a notable lack of high values and non-materialism.

    Vox Day harshly rejects National Socialism for, wait for it, wait for it…the fact that it pursued socialistic economic policies and wasn’t individualistic. The one good thing about it.

    And he wants to lead a popular revolution lol.

    This is characteristic of the movement – small minded selfish materialists.

    So now the movement is entering its trial phase – that’s when ones true character is revealed.

    We shall see what’s what :)

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  13. Pericles says:
    @Felix Keverich

    Yeah, isn’t it funny how there is no “Bang India” book?

    The research phase is too grueling.

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    @DFH

    One seldom sees a hexagonal face in nature. But now I have.

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  15. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    Every Eastern European woman’s dream, a Persian player with a lotta chest hair and not a lotta penis.

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  16. Matt Forney says: • Website

    With regards to the morality of men like Roosh going to other countries and sleeping with the women there…

    I’m in the Caucasus right now. When was the last time you heard about American or European men going to Armenia in sizable numbers to slay the local women?

    Answer: you’ve never heard of that, because Armenian men themselves can’t slay Armenian women, unless they put a ring on it.

    If your women are already sleeping around, they will inevitably sleep with foreign men. Stop them from sleeping around period and the “sex tourist” problem solves itself.

    Blaming Roosh for your inability to keep your women on a leash is like blaming the common cold for killing off AIDS patients.

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  17. AaronB says:

    Oh no Karlin! You’ve cast a summoning spell – now they’re all gonna show up!

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  18. neutral says:
    @Matt Forney

    Non whites should not be allowed to live in white lands, regardless how good or bad their habits are.

    Speaking of Armenians, the most famous Armenians are coal burning sluts.

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  19. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t get your point. Is it to say Indian women are ugly or to say he is avoiding that country for some other reason?

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  20. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian

    The problem with “Game” is that women are still only going to prefer the top 30% or so of men. And even if a total loser learns game, other men are also learning it or getting better at it. Or there are black or Latino guys who are just better at Game naturally.

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  21. Matt Forney says: • Website
    @neutral

    Armenia is one of the sexually conservative countries in the world. The eXile was complaining about how prudish the women were there over a decade ago.

    Azerbaijan and Georgia are also very conservative (though Georgia is liberalizing thanks to E.U./NATO influence and integration). No sex tourists to be found in any of these countries, because not even the local men are getting any. The stats back this up.

    From my perspective, the kinds of men who whine about Roosh et al. coming in and “stealing” Polish, Hungarian women etc. want it both ways. They want their women to be promiscuous, but only with them.

    It doesn’t work like that. Once you take the ticket of sexual liberation, you gotta ride the ride all the way down.

    There is no magical world in which Eastern European women (or any women) reserve their sluttiness for men of their ethnicity/race. Either you enforce chastity on women (and thus give up your freedom to get laid outside of marriage), or you accept promiscuity because it makes it easier for you to get laid (with the downside that some of your women will be taken by blacks and Americans).

    If women are shamed into being chaste, the incentive for foreign men to woo them disappears.

    Complaining about Roosh et al. is just sour grapes from the losers of the sexual marketplace.

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  22. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @DFH

    Wow. Not like I read the while thing, but that was the most cringey thing I have ever read.

    That guy is like so Alpha.

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  23. neutral says:
    @Matt Forney

    I repeat what I said: non whites must be removed from white lands. I don’t care if these non whites are saints or whores. Making women more chaste has nothing to do with this, even with zero miscegenation rates non whites entering and living in white lands is a problem.

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  24. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:

    Matt, I find it interesting that you write about Game but what authority figure are you? Why should people pay attention to what you write?

    How many women have you slept with? Seems to me like you only get laid by going to the Phillipines and the occasional 40+ crazy lady.

    This kind of Larping is low quality and not authentic.

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  25. Rational says:
    @Rational

    ADD: ROOSH V. RAPIST LINKS; UNPROTECTED SPEECH PER US SUPREME COURT.

    I want to add 2 points to my earlier comment:

    1. Proof Roosh V is a rapist. There is a whole website dedicated to that.

    See: https://daryushvalizadeh.wordpress.com/

    Also: https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/roosh-really-is-a-rape-advocate/

    2. Unprotected Speech: My exception to free speech (porno and violence) is consistent with Supreme Court decisions relating to what is called “unprotected speech” in legal parlance.

    See:

    https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/which-types-of-speech-are-not-protected-by-the-first-amendment/

    Though Bezos is a bad man in many ways (WaPo), his ban on Roosh V. was legal and moral and right.

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  26. Does anyone know where the milliondollarextreme subreddit has migrated to?

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  27. Talha says:
    @Matt Forney

    They want their women to be promiscuous, but only with them. It doesn’t work like that. Once you take the ticket of sexual liberation, you gotta ride the ride all the way down.

    Somebody gets it. They want to LARP a patriarchy without actually having to deal with the consequences of a patriarchy.

    Peace.

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  28. Matt Forney says: • Website
    @neutral

    If you can’t do something as simple as make your women behave themselves, where do you think you’ll summon the political will to expel all non-whites from white countries (which, depending on how you define it, could be legally classified as genocide)?

    Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.

    The non-whites are in your countries because they see that you’ve become flabby, weak, and hedonistic, and they figure they can just bash your head in and take your stuff because you’re too much of a coward to fight back.

    You can’t even stop your women from slutting around. You just sit around on the Internet complaining about the color of the cocks on the carousels that they’re riding.

    And you want to talk about expelling non-whites when you can’t even keep your daughters under control?

    If a people’s souls have become corrupt, the barbarians at the gate are a formality.

    In the words of a certain philosopher, clean your room.

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  29. Whatever the case, someone in the company clicked the delete button and I’m supposed to accept it, but it’s hard to do that when your livelihood depends on the basic assumption of fair business practices.

    Well, you’re in the real “Game” now, ain’t you Rooshie?

    You’ve always been one of the biggest poseurs on the planet, but I don’t know how you can even look at yourself in the mirror after saying something like that. You present yourself as some sort of expert in Alpha Malehood, and now you’re whining that the other side doesn’t play fair?

    Welcome to real life.

    Being an Alpha in the real world means dealing with actual enemies who don’t play fair. It means dealing with jealousy, rivalry, treachery, and abuse on a constant basis. It means being saddled with all the wearying demands of power and responsibility. And being the fastest gun in the West just means that you always have a target on your back

    I doesn’t seem like you know too much about any of that. But the men who can handle those things, they are the real Alphas.

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  30. @Felix Keverich

    I am not saying anything of the sort.

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  31. @Intelligent Dasein

    In all fairness, Roosh is a self-described beta; that’s why he learned game in the first place.

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  32. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matt Forney

    Matt, I have nothing against Roosh and am definitely against censoring him.

    But I think you are typically American and nihilistic. Being apart of American culture has made you too narrow minded and you are not considering things from other cultures perspective.

    Imagine you are a Polish guy. Your country is full of beautiful women and people from all over the world are flying in trying to get laid because they read it is easy on some blog.

    There is no switch to turn on sexual conservatism for the whole country. You only control yourself.
    So while it is true that the best case would be for Polish women to reject these sex tourists, some women will fall for stupid shit and then some guy will brag about it on the internet. Now when his wife goes to market, he has a bunch of guys hitting on her all the time.

    The Polish guy has every right to stop people like Roosh, and it is in his countries interest to keep low quality males away from his women. It does not make him a loser.

    It is not a purely moral choice. Sometimes your country goes through hard times and it is difficult to even get food. You don’t want a bunch of sex tourists offering an easy way out while you are trying to keep your country together.

    Armenia and Georgia are unique situations, and if you ever spent any time in either country like I have you would understand. Their geography, culture, neighbors, economy, etc etc make it what it is. You can’t apply their culture everywhere else.

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  33. Anonymous[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matt Forney

    But you just fled to another country instead of doing the “Hard Work” in America right?

    So who are you to talk?

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  34. Jayce says:

    weev, now Forney himself. I gotta say, AK: really digging this new “celebrity guest star” format.

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  35. James LaFond also had a number of titles banned by Amazon this summer. The strange thing about that case was how small James’ footprint was, smaller than Roosh’s for sure.

    As far as Roosh, look, it is simple: if you’re not, under any realistic scenario, going to marry the girl you’re trying to bang, then it’s wrong to bang. These guys who go to Eastern Europe to run “game” on these women can spin it howelver they like but 9/10 the women are hoping for commitment. This actually follows for sex anywhere. Don’t bang if you’re not going to try to make it work. Super STDs can’t come soon enough.

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  36. @Anonymous

    Like many sex tourists, he has no principles. Notice he just goes to very poor countries and then tries to delude himself that women want him because he’s good. No, because the average nominal wage in Ukraine, Georgia etc is far lower than it is in America. A brown local version of Matt Forney in Georgia wouldn’t get laid.

    As for his “don’t blame us, blame the women”, it’s a cop-out. It’s possible to be against sluts and sex tourists at the same time. Roosh has primarily made his career trying to promote sex tourism in (poor) White-majority countries and a substantial part of his customer base are NAMs in the West. It is not at all clear that all of them would go this route if he wasn’t heavily marketing it and trying to make money off it.This is why I don’t see why so many white people on the alt-sphere are willing to overlook this because he is ‘based’ on the female question. It’s a matter of putting your gender ahead of your people for these people.

    Finally, like many people doing amoral things, notice how Forney turns away all responsibility away from himself, making it seem like it “just happens”. Enoch had a good line about this some weeks ago, when discussing libertarianism. The drug dealer is not a passive bystander here. Yes, the one taking the drug is also liable but the drug dealer is also making an active choice. A sex tourist like Forney or Roosh are not innocent bystanders and they in fact make an active choice in trying to undermine their host socities. They then try to blame this solely on the hosts. Classic parasitic behaviour.

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  37. @Anatoly Karlin

    You’re giving him favorable exposure, which gives him more clicks/opportuties to sell his books. That’s on you.

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  38. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Exactly, well said.

    This Forney guy is pushing 260lbs and looks like a prole slob. And he thinks he is an expert on picking up women because some Ukranian woman wants to desperately escape her country.

    That is the most beta thing ever. Where will Forney end up next? Syria to brag about how many women he is picking up?

    If he was really confident in his game then he could stay in America and his game would work on women who weren’t starving. But we all know Western women would sniff out the loser in him I 2 seconds flat.

    Also, high trust societies can be promiscuous without facing to many of the downsides if they keep low trust societies out. It is not either or.

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  39. @Matt Forney

    There is no magical world in which Eastern European women (or any women) reserve their sluttiness for men of their ethnicity/race. Either you enforce chastity on women (and thus give up your freedom to get laid outside of marriage), or you accept promiscuity

    Nonsense. Muslim men in Europe are perfectly capable of running a world where they keep Muslim women chaste while Muslim men get promiscuous with European women. They’re pretty good at it considering how nightclubs are now full of Arab men chasing European women but you rarely see Arab women in nightclubs or even dating European men.

    There’s no reason why we couldn’t run a patriarchy where European men get to be promiscuous but women don’t. That’s what we used to do – men could be promiscuous with native women of various colonies, they could have mistresses or they could visit prostitutes and they wouldn’t be automatically shunned like promiscuous women would be. Promiscuous women existed, of course, but they lived an outcast life.

    I’m not saying that we should (although it would be preferable to being essentially cuckolded as nations) but clearly we could. This entire idea that you need to pick either a “trad society” or “promiscuity for everyone” is just a lousy attempt of manosphere men at rationalizing away their choice of promiscuous lifestyle by blaming it on culture. “I’m a bad person because of society but once society changes I’ll become a good guy” is a very implausible story.

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  40. Talha says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    If I may, I don’t think you’ve thought this through…

    Muslim men in Europe are perfectly capable of running a world where they keep Muslim women chaste while Muslim men get promiscuous with European women.

    I think you’re missing the point…these Muslim men are taking advantage of the breakdown of European patriarchy. They can’t turn out the Muslim women because the patriarchy still exists (for the most part) in the Muslim immigrant communities. If they were in Muslim lands they wouldn’t be able to pull it off because the patriarchy is far more entrenched – which is the same boat you would be in if the West brought back a healthy patriarchy.

    That’s what we used to do – men could be promiscuous

    Which is exactly why the West is in its current situation – that level of hypocrisy was unsustainable in the long run. Go ahead and try to get women to quit shacking up while proposing exceptions for men and see how far that gets. In many of the Muslim families where the girls go rogue, it is often because they can’t stand the double standard their family has for the boys versus the girls in the household.

    Try this out on your own son and daughter (a real life experiment); sit them down and tell them that she will not be allowed to shack up with men, but her brother will be excused. Let us know how the conversation goes.

    This entire idea that you need to pick either a “trad society” or “promiscuity for everyone”

    Find us a sustainable exception to this binary.

    their choice of promiscuous lifestyle by blaming it on culture.

    They are fully to blame; promiscuous individuals create a promiscuous culture.

    Peace.

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  41. @Brabantian

    I think its kind of missing the essential point when you’re debating the good or bad of various splinters of the Right. Its also an incredible miscalculation of how weak “right” position is in the scheme of things.

    The most accurate comparison is that the various Right cliques are basically small criminal gangs, which are essentially powerless before the system with ridiculous resources, organized enforcers and systemic technology. By and large, existence is permitted not because any effective resistance is possible, but simply by hiding and avoiding attention, thus permitting the system to be distracted into fighting any one part at a time. Any damage that can be done to the zeistgest is in the same fashion – through hit and run, and then avoidance. Anyone who tries to stand up and fight will be decimated.

    Given the largely pathetic nature of the Right, then to further fight each other is almost hilarious foolishness. By and large, even if you don’t agree with another group , its still best to encourage them so that they will provide cover in some fashion and damage the system in its own way. To actually put any effort in engaging other crimethinkers over the details seems about as brilliant as various Al-Qaeda groups duking it out for some irrelevant point long enough for American jets to blow them all into tiny little bits.

    At its very worst, its basically an escape mechanism for mood-repair: let’s pretend that we actually have power, because we can fight some other tiny fringe group, and think we’re doing something.

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  42. @Talha

    There’s no double standard. Women are more valuable than men. Wombs are a limited resource, sperm is plentiful. The rules should be different for men and women.

    Every society that manages to survive and perpetuate itself recognizes the higher value of women. That includes societies like Afghanistan under the Taliban – locking up women and making them walk around in tents is not a sign that they don’t value women, to the contrary, it’s a sign that they value women more than men. If you have a valuable diamond and a worthless rock, which one are you going to put in your safe behind locks and which one will you just let lie wherever?

    Because women are more valuable, a sensible society like 19th century Europe offers women both a set of privileges and a set of limitations that do not apply to men. Women get to go to the lifeboats first but they don’t get to sleep around without being judged. The higher value of women is tied to their reproductive role and promiscuity ruins that value. That is why promiscuous women were shunned and they lost the privileges of women.

    The modern West has taken the unsustainable path of trying to maintain privileges for women while not maintaining the limitations and it’s going to crash one way or another.

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  43. Talha says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Bro, are you seriously trying to teach a traditional Muslim about how a patriarchy works and its benefits? Of course women have a huge value as mothers of society and need to be cherished and valued. I’m not saying rules should be exactly equal, they certainly aren’t in Muslim societies, but when we say a man can have four wives, it’s because God says so and we have a transcendent law to point to, but that same law says men can’t sleep around so we have to adhere to all sides – if we pick and choose, we will be guilty of hypocrisy and our women will discard the law as well.

    I am giving you advice that comes from a community that is trying its best to hold on to a healthy patriarchy as much as possible. It is very difficult. I’m giving you insights you can learn from our community. If you don’t have a family and one or more daughters that you are actually successfully implementing this on your small household, how is anyone supposed to take your advice to scale to society? You are trying to revive an institution that is currently on life support.

    Your proposal sounds great for men (and gets claps around an alt-right sausage-fest forum), but will you be able to convince your women of its correctness? Your own wife, daughter, sister, mother? Trust me, you need a sign off from your women for this to work because the mothers teach their sons values even in patriarchal cultures.

    When the Taliban were in charge, they flogged men fornicators and stoned male adulterers also. And they stopped men from cultural practices like inheriting widows against their will. Because their legitimacy was bound to them adhering to (at least their interpretation of) sacred law. How does your position derive legitimacy?

    Again, present a sustainable society that has managed to escape the binary and pull off what you are advocating. Just one, where men can sleep around without censure, but women have to be chaste.

    Peace.

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  44. @Jaakko Raipala

    This entire idea that you need to pick either a “trad society” or “promiscuity for everyone” is just a lousy attempt of manosphere men at rationalizing away their choice of promiscuous lifestyle by blaming it on culture. “I’m a bad person because of society but once society changes I’ll become a good guy” is a very implausible story.

    Brilliantly said. I should add that Heartiste of all people have pointed to studies showing that women with many partners have difficulties mainintaing LTRs. Such a society is going to have more social pathologies. So even from a purely self-interested persective, if you’re in an LTR, you still have a personal stake in making sure those around you also are because it creates a more functional society.

    Many white men on the alt-right and in the alt-sphere instictively understand this, but for reasons that escape me still promote parasites like Forner or sex tourists like Roosh at the same time, despite the fact that both of them have made it their personal business interest to spread this dysfunction. It’s fucking stupid.

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  45. @Anonymous

    I think you’re the only Roosh critic here who made a good point.

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  46. @Daniel Chieh

    I lol’ed at the criminal and Al Qaeda comparison but you are completely right.

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  47. @Jaakko Raipala

    Good points, too.

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  48. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    There’s no double standard. Women are more valuable than men. Wombs are a limited resource, sperm is plentiful. The rules should be different for men and women.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/paper-review-artificial-wombs

    Men are already obsolete, and women will be in maximum 5 years, when lifelike sex robots and workable artificial wombs will come online.

    All this obssession with sex is pure waste of time, leading to nowhere. Imagine being in year 1910 and talking about necessity to secure supply of horse fodder for your country.

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  49. workable artificial wombs

    Yeah, right after the flying car in the hyperloop. Just around the corner, wait 5-10 years!

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  50. Truth says:
    @neutral

    Speaking of Armenians, the most famous Armenians are coal burning sluts.

    Hey, Bro, I think we should move away from Fossil fuels as well, but is how someone chooses to heat her house really worth a pejorative?

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  51. Truth says:
    @Matt Forney

    Does this guy actually strike you as a “winner”?

    Has anyone actually verified the fact that he gets laid?

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  52. Truth says:
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Nonsense. Muslim men in Europe are perfectly capable of running a world where they keep Muslim women chaste while Muslim men get promiscuous with European women. They’re pretty good at it considering how nightclubs are now full of Arab men chasing European women but you rarely see Arab women in nightclubs or even dating European men.

    I was in Bosnia for a week in 2016, This is absolutely, positively false.

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    There’s no reason why we couldn’t run a patriarchy where European men get to be promiscuous but women don’t. That’s what we used to do – men could be promiscuous with native women of various colonies, they could have mistresses or they could visit prostitutes

    Again, this was only the case in fables. This worked in South America, and Africa, and the Carribbean because they didn’t send women over with the men.

    The general rule of thumb that I have noticed in 52 years of a legendary life is this. If you are getting it somewhere else, you are neglecting your wife, and she will get it somewhere else. The difference is that women are much more likely to get it from your brother or best friend than a stranger.

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  54. Truth says:
    @Thulean Friend

    . A sex tourist like Forney or Roosh are not innocent bystanders and they in fact make an active choice in trying to undermine their host socities. They then try to blame this solely on the hosts. Classic parasitic behaviour.

    You’re assuming that what these goofballs write is non-fiction.

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  55. Matra says:
    @Truth

    Bosnian Muslims are mostly secularised Europeans. I think he means the non-Europeans who make up the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Western Europe.

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  56. TheBoom says:
    @AaronB

    Yeah, he says anglin is fake right while his buddies Milo and Cerno are real right.

    Vox also demands that the alt right be a Christian movement which means it will stay relatively small.

    There is nothing the right loves more than infighting

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  57. TheBoom says:

    A lot of commenters don’t seem to understand that what makes Roosh being censored bad is not whether you like him or not. It is that Amazon is starting to censored wrong thinkers. This will escalate. Your right thinker may well be the next wrong thinker to be censored unless you are Establishment Left

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  58. TheBoom says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Problem being is that the great passion of all segments of the right is infighting so they can virtue signal their group is the best. Given that the left controls almost all institutions, the smart thing would be the right finding common ground. One of the particularly dumb moves that vox day, Anglin and Z Man love to make is hating the boomers and blaming them for everything. Boomers were the key demographic behind the success of Brexit and Trump. We have numbers and money two things the alt right desperately needs. The alt right instead is putting all their hope into Gen Z. By the time they come into power it will likely be too late even if they are as right wing as the right wing wants to believe.

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  59. @DFH

    I’ve seen advice for Matt Forney and other manospherians to join the Quiverfull movement. These are religious people who make lots of babies for Jesus but have much less extreme lifestyle than the Amish, use the internet and even appear at TV shows. They would probably accept him as a repentant sinner and let him marry one of 10 daughters who are all certified virgins in long skirts. But oops, he’d have to submit to the courtship process and actual patriarchy (authority of the girl’s father and elders). Which is so unacceptable to the kind of guys obsessed with “dominance” that they prefer to stay alone and complain.

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  60. Bliss says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Roosh has primarily made his career trying to promote sex tourism in (poor) White-majority countries

    And this lecherous Iranian sleazebag is an icon of the euro-supremacist alt-right. Go figure.

    Btw, the poor east european countries whose females this persian took advantage of are the same ones that used to provide sex slaves to the muslim Middle-East and North Africa a few centuries ago.

    But let’s not forget that “sex tourism” today mostly refers to older white male fetishists from Western Europe and North America going to the poor nations of Southeast Asia to have sex with underage prostitutes. And, to a lesser extent, it refers to older white women going to Africa and the Caribbean for sex with well-endowed African youngsters.

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  61. Bliss says:
    @TheBoom

    Vox also demands that the alt right be a Christian movement which means it will stay relatively small.

    New Testament Christianity, in principle, is a religion of love. Therefore it is incompatible with the alt-right.

    You guys need to create your own religion. Unfortunately Europeans are the least spiritual of all the major races of mankind, with a sorry track record in matters of religion. Even IQism doesn’t support white supremacy….

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  62. Rosie says:
    @AaronB

    This is characteristic of the movement – small minded selfish materialists.

    It wasn’t always that way. White nationalism needs to distance itself from the manosphere more or less completely. We are completely different movements with completely different values and objectives. That’s not to say in theory a more mature and constructive men’s movement couldn’t be part of the white nationalist agenda, but there is no such movement at present.

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  63. Rosie says:
    @Matt Forney

    Blaming Roosh for your inability to keep your women on a leash is like blaming the common cold for killing off AIDS patients.

    Women = dogs.

    You are trouble Forney. Spencer made a big mistake cozying up to degenerates like you.

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  64. Dmitry says:
    @Bliss

    Unfortunately Europeans are the least spiritual of all the major races of mankind,

    Not true at all – another eccentric mantra of AaronB, however.

    Look at the 21st century Russian Orthodox Church.

    To a significant extent, it is just a money-making organization. Intelligent person should not take it seriously.

    However, most of the leaders can sometimes speak in a spiritual way. They have genuine worrying about topics (not with arrogant self-belief). Also there is some honestly in a lot of leadership. In the topics where size of the church is discussed, you can see all over social media, priests are openly admit the declining numbers of people attending church and their own minimal influence.

    This is a group which despite being a bit of a joke, still shows a much more human and spiritual face than the Muslim equivalents – where all you will see is pure materialism (of a most degraded form) and arrogance.

    If “every people gets what they deserve”, then the church reflects a lot more intrinsic spirituality than exists in most of the Islamic religious world.

    The Islamic world is entirely built on antispiritual desire for power over things and people. In European history this exists to a large extent as well, and is the main motive of the Catholic church. But there is a vast difference of degree, and also of historical progression (Christianity now very much more civilized than in the past).

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