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This article is written by Anna Nemtsova, an ex-Soviet Jewess whose main journalistic preoccupation is hating on Russia’s “useless bachelors” and trying to convince their women to miscegenate with swarthy lotharios from the Global South instead.

The emerging notion that genetic security is part of national security is still unclear to most Russian citizens, but already it receives lavish funding. In late April, Russian authorities approved a budget of 220 billion rubles ($3.3 billion) in order to develop new genetic technologies over the next eight years. The document published on the government’s website says that the main purpose of the program is “to decrease critical dependence of Russian science on foreign genetic and biological databases” and on foreign specialized software and other technologies.

Russia does indeed ban the export of “biomaterial”, which is the reason why 23andme tests are inaccessible here. It would at least be good if there were to be Russian equivalents.

“I have never heard Putin or anybody else in the Kremlin mention the word ‘race,’” Svetlana Gannushkina, a senior human rights defender helping migrants told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. “But once Putin said to me: ‘I agree we need migrants, but preferably well-educated Slavs of a fertile age.’”

Good to see that PUTLER is listening to me, as opposed to liberal normie soyboys and BASED EURASIANISTS (but not redpilled) who share a common goal in turning Russia into Greater Turkestan.

However, Putin still needs to formally disavow his prior comments that people who believe that “Russia is for Russians” (i.e. ~50% of the Russian population) are idiots or provocateurs before I will be ready to acknowledge him as PUTLER.

There is even a group suggesting the Constitution of the Russian Federation be edited to help build a new ideology around the nation’s genes.

A member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Taliya Khabriyeva, suggested that a new ideology should embrace “values genetically typical of Russians,” constitutionally defined. Khabriyeva’s idea provoked a wide discussion in academic circles.

PUTLER is reading not just me, but spandrell too: “Yes, it would be much better if we had solid measures of not only intelligence, but creativity, integrity, decisiveness, leadership abilities, and whatnot. If we had, we’d surely find out that different ethnic groups have different distributions of every trait. We could even use them to define the national character of many countries, and perhaps plausibly use that definition to set a psychological legal standard for the demographics a country wants to maintain. Perhaps we’ll get there some day. But we’re not there yet.” I recall that Greg Cochran had similar ideas.

“There is a huge hype about genetic editing in Russia, mostly among billionaires,” pro-Kremlin political analyst Yuriy Krupnov told The Daily Beast earlier this month. “One procedure costs around $1 million abroad, so it sounds like a good business, but even if Russia develops its own technology, biological big data would require much bigger investments.”

I suppose it is better that they spend money on this than the typical money Russian oligarchs spend their money on.

This interest is not too surprising. Elisabeth Schimpfössl in her recent book Rich Russians note that Russian oligarchs have an inordinate interest in their family histories, especially as it relates to aristocratic pedigrees.

The nationalist tone of this talk about “Russian genes” is raising alarms. Alexander Verkhovsky, director of the SOVA Center, monitoring Russian far-right groups and hate crimes, was stunned to hear Putin’s statement in 2017. “Putin’s words came out of the blue, without any introductions or explanations, as if there was a moment of insanity,” Verkhovsky, who was present at the meeting, told The Daily Beast. From Putin, he said, “We often hear conspiracy ideas but until recently his nationalist political statements have mostly focused on empowerment and reconstruction of the Russian empire rather than white supremacists’ ideas about the biology of ethnicity or race.” …

When I spoke of the PUTLERREICH I did so in jest.

But hey, since Western libs believe you’re the “godfather of extreme nationalism” anyway, why not do the crime if you’re doing the time.

Looks like I made the right call to stop worrying and learn to love Putin again. How could I possibly stay mad at one of my biggest fans?

More recently, architects of the well-funded Russian biodefense program have been reading a book called The Genetic Bomb that openly discusses eugenics and what the author, Yuriy Bobylov, calls the risks to the white race, according to one of those involved. “The creation of a ‘super-human,’ a ‘hero,’ is possible, in principle,” Bobylov wrote, “but that is a very difficult social task.”

The theory that genomics companies cooperate with Western intelligence services to compile databases that could be used to create ethnic bioweapons is not a fringe one in Russia. It is rumored to have been the primary motivation for the ban on the export of human biomaterial in 2007.

I am pretty skeptical about the possibility of ethnic bioweapons, at least while our knowledge of genetics remains pretty primitive. Races are not separated by single genes, but by many genes that occur in varying frequencies across populations, so any ethnic bioweapon would rebound on its creators. Unless you preemptively innoculate your own population… but in that case, wouldn’t just taking smallpox out of the freezer be much easier and more effective anyway? Moreover, a bioweapon designed to be used against Russians would also wipe out most Slavs, including Poles.

That said, I am not going to be criticizing the security people with thinking about all kinds of possible threats. That’s their job, after all.

Last year, the government ordered Russian scientists and bureaucrats to develop a large-scale study of the so-called “Russian genome.” …

“We hear too much nonsense about ‘Russian genes’ in our multi-ethnic country,” Pavel Lobkov, a biologist who is currently a presenter on independent Rain TV, told The Daily Beast.

Nevertheless, Putin has ordered the government to provide Russians with passports by 2025 that include their genetic identification.

 

 
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  1. Nevertheless, Putin has ordered the government to provide Russians with passports by 2025 that include their genetic identification.

    That sounds made up, but is there any genuine background to that claim?

  2. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Putler’s English skills are good enough to understand your writing let alone your tongue-in-cheek references.

    Btw, Karlin, you need to do a Linh Dinh-style field trip across the U.S. to get an accurate sense of where the U.S. is and how quickly it is coming apart.

  3. notanon says:

    very cool

    and seeing as he’s reading this blog i’ll repeat a suggestion i made a while back…

    there’s a biological personality type (soldier-ant) who should be in charge but generally aren’t cos low ego.

    (low ego cos thinking that dying to protect the nest is cool requires low ego)

    i’ve always assumed Putler was this type (e.g. personal insults from western media having no effect) so if he wants to prevent russkia getting trashed after he’s gone he wants to get some dudes to figure out how to test for that personality type and put loads of them on a leadership track even if they don’t like it which they won’t (bullycide them with “duty”).

  4. an ex-Soviet Jewess whose main journalistic preoccupation is hating on Russia’s “useless bachelors” and trying to convince their women to miscegenate with swarthy lotharios from the Global South instead.

    Given your past promotions of shitskin sex tourists, why would you hold this against her?

    Moreover, a bioweapon designed to be used against Russians would also wipe out most Slavs

    Indeed. Plus a non-trivial amount of those would be Western citizens in Germany, UK, NL, Scandinavia by now.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  5. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    it’s probably a bad idea but for some reason i like it anyway…

    dig up some old national hero and test their dna (e.g. Asterix for France) and then set nationality as being within a certain Fst distance.

  6. notanon says:

    I am pretty skeptical about the possibility of ethnic bioweapons…

    i’m pretty certain they are already being developed.

    …so any ethnic bioweapon would rebound on its creators.

    and equally certain they would backfire.

    i sometimes think the spate of zombie movies/shows/games is artsy types having premonitions of exactly this.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  7. @notanon

    dig up some old national hero and test their dna (e.g. Asterix for France)

    Great suggestion. They could also do something like that with Tintin for Belgium. Don’t know about Russia, but maybe one of the Russian commenters has an idea.
    Keep up the good comments; since Putin is reading this blog, you’ll eventually get his attention and he’ll offer you a job as an advisor or something.

  8. Tusk says:

    There already was a ‘superhuman’ and his name was Bobby Fischer.

  9. melanf says:
    @German_reader

    Don’t know about Russia, but maybe one of the Russian commenters has an idea.

    Ilya Muromets

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  10. Meneldil says:
    @notanon

    Asterix is a fictional French comic book character, I think you’re thinking of Vercingetorix.

    • Replies: @notanon
  11. notanon says:
    @German_reader

    yes Tintin would be grand

  12. @melanf

    Is he the product of a Russian Space Marine development program?

    • Replies: @melanf
  13. @German_reader

    They could also do something like that with Tintin for Belgium

    You joke, but they could do that with Leon Degrelle

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  14. notanon says:

    leaving aside everyone’s fave two cartoon characters although recognition of the genetic foundation of life will almost certainly lead to lots of horrible things they won’t be as horrible as the things that will happen if it’s not recognized.

    so this is pretty good news imo.

  15. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:

    an ex-Soviet Jewess

    Every. Single. Time.

    Should we ask her opinion on Israel? We know how it’d go. I’ve heard the vast majority of the most fanatic zionists and settlers in Israel are of Russian extraction

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  16. melanf says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    Is he the product of a Russian Space Marine development program?

    Well, Ilya was paralyzed until he was 30, but then with the help of biotechnology he was turned into an invincible warrior

  17. @Anon

    Jews do obsess over “race”, but, from what I’ve seen, their ideas about race are different than ours.
    Most Israelis look Middle eastern & “white” Jews mix inordinately with swarthy eastern Jews. Some of their elites are white-looking, but most ordinary citizens are, at least in my eyes, just another kind of Arabs, whichever their origin.

  18. By the way, unlike the author, I think Putin is a mild race realist. Just, being the ruler of an empire, he can’t be explicit about it.

    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
    , @SkipJack
  19. Spandrell says: • Website

    Am I finally getting my check then?

  20. whahae says:
    @German_reader

    So who to take for Germany? Hermann? Siegfried? Perry Rhodan?

  21. “The creation of a ‘super-human,’ a ‘hero,’ is possible, in principle,” Bobylov wrote, “but that is a very difficult social task.”

    Another datapoint in support of my hypothesis that Russian psyche is obssessed, OBSSESSED with grandiose impractical baloney that almost always comes to a naught. Hydrocarbon/commodity money will be embezzled, new highfalutin long-term goals will be set.

  22. @whahae

    Jokes aside, someone like Michael Schumacher? High IQ, good team player, physical courage, fast reaction time, even some creativity (or at least original ideas: he was the first Formula One driver to keep his foot on the accelerator while braking with his left foot, a practice soon taken up by other drivers), and perhaps even good-looking. (Or is he good-looking? Some experts might chime in.)

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  23. @notanon

    I think one hero is not enough for most nations (where there are too many different ancestral groups). So you need a North German and a South German, and probably a scientist, an artist, a soldier (perhaps at least one general and at least one rank and file), an engineer, a farmer, an industrial worker etc. from each group.

    But maybe one such hero would be enough, something like the Big Mac Index.

    You also need to accommodate all or almost all (like at least 99.99%, but better 100% – think of family members) current members of the ethnic group, so maybe this should only be used for naturalization, and not to exclude current members.

    • Replies: @notanon
  24. @German_reader

    I thought the same, but apparently not: https://www.rbc.ru/society/09/04/2019/5ca72ca29a7947fd6d24a96f

    We can talk about two types of genetic passports, believes the director of the Genotek Medical Genetic Center, Valery Ilyinsky. The first is a forensic genetic passport. The second option is a more “detailed” document, in which the risks to human health and other features of his body will be indicated.

    A forensic passport is a set of genetic markers that allow you to identify a person, explains the expert. “Usually such passports are created for offenders and for people with dangerous professions, firefighters and military. That is, if a person commits a crime, it will be easy to find and detain him, and if he dies as a result of, for example, a man-made disaster, he will be recognized, ”Ilyinsky said.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  25. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Its real motive, if it would be a future law, will be so that police will have a genetic database which can identify every citizen, and can therefore solve crimes very quickly.

    It’s a standard increase in state capacity, but if you want a government to have all your data.

  26. @notanon

    I know who the Americans would end up choosing. Harriet Tubman.

    • Replies: @notanon
  27. @Thulean Friend

    Given your past promotions of shitskin sex tourists, why would you hold this against her?

    I realize you have a strange obsession with Roosh, and I would otherwise disregard it, but to clear things up for the benefit of other readers:

    1. I do not recall having expressed any distinctly positive or negative opinion about Roosh’s activities, let alone having “promoted” it. Refraining from getting outraged by the non-criminal exploits of one character is not promotion.

    2. Sex tourism: “Trips organized from within the tourism sector, or from outside this sector but using its structures and networks, with the primary purpose of effecting a commercial sexual relationship by the tourist with residents at the destination” (World Tourism Organization). By this definition, Roosh is not a sex tourist, at least to the extent he does not pay money for sex.

    3. “Shitskin”. Not sure if half-Armenian/half-Iranian qualifies.

    4. Even if he was an outright La Creatura, the sexual exploits of one particular man (who does not appear to pay for sex, or rape women) are irrelevant next to (actual) sex tourism by Arabs/Turks in Eastern Europe, the grooming epidemics in the UK, and actual promotion of mixed race couples (inevitably swarthy man/white woman) and anti-natalism (targetted almost exclusively against whites) by advertisers, mass media, and Western political leaders. But feel free to get very outraged by this nothingburger instead. The feminists and SJWs thank you for doing so.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  28. Dmitry says:

    American newspapers and television have almost stopped reporting about Putin, after the release of the Mueller.

    Even the embarrassing exaggeration stories since, are not reported in American media.

    For example, last month Putin was shown “military robots” according to the Kremlin, developed by students at Suvorov Military Academy

    Even in English – Russia Today has promoted it.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/457434-putin-robots-pushups-sport/

    Of course, these are toys purchased (for $1200 each) from South Korea.

    In theory, they can be useful for teaching children basic concepts as they can modify the motions (although it’s quite an expensive way to do this).

    However, the motion packs they show to Putin are just some of the pre-programmed “demonstration motions” which comes with the product.

  29. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Roosh is not a sex tourist, at least to the extent he does not pay money for sex

    I am not to disagree with your overall point, but I think it was obvious after the last discussion where we learned about him and we even watched the video of him on Ukrainian television, that he is a sex-tourist who pays money for sex.

    He receives money selling books online, and then uses the money to pay for prostitution in Ukraine, where prices are lower.

    It would be no problem (because women are not attracted to him, so he has to pay, and therefore goes to a cheaper country), but I’m not sure there is a good justification that he could not learn basic things like self-presentation, washing regularly, having a hair cut, not offending the people of the country, etc.

  30. notanon says:
    @reiner Tor

    yeah – i’m not seriously suggesting it as i’m sure there would be lots of unintended consequences but it’s interesting – reminds me of that lump of metal the French have for a kilogram.

  31. notanon says:
    @Blinky Bill

    yes – everyone would have to be deported

  32. Dmitry says:
    @reiner Tor

    I will vote for Leibniz

  33. neutral says:

    So what does Putin read for real? I assume that somebody in his staff provides him summaries from different news outlets. The thing is these kind of news stories should not be dismissed as a joke any more, the US regime is increasingly looking for open war with Russia, and its not just the typical neocons wanting this, the SJW will be eager for this war as well.

    The hatred for Russia is basically for it being white (mostly white at least), this is not going to go away, old fashioned diplomacy and appeals to reason will not work any more. If Putin had somebody with good understanding of the real issues he would present these new realities, what he could do about it is unclear, but dismissing these kind of stories is incredibly dangerous because the type of stuff that is written in the DailyBeast is believed by the majority of Americans.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @notanon
  34. Dmitry says:
    @neutral

    So what does Putin read for real?

    In humanities, Putin is kind of moderately-high cultural levels, and he does not waste time on the internet.

    He reads or listens to classic 19th century books.

    A problem is lack of knowledge in science, technology, etc (and he probably really believes those kids are not just showing him demonstration mode on the robots).

    omebody in his staff provides him summaries from different news outlets. The thing is these kind of news stories should not be dismissed as a joke any more

    American media histrionics is good for the government, less for the country.

    Seeing the rusophobia in the American media, allows to generate more support for policies like import substitution, which are useful for helping friends, but which result in higher costs and lower quality for some ordinary shoppers.

    But in the case of American media histrionics and exaggerations, it seems to have stopped a couple of months ago now, after Mueller?

    For example, in Russia people are protesting about the construction of the temple next to city pond in Ekaterinburg, and American media has not reported about these protests (without the Trump conspiracy theory, the whole theme of writing about Russia is probably less exciting for the journalists).

  35. @Dmitry

    In humanities, Putin is kind of moderately-high cultural levels, and he does not waste time on the internet.

    Certainly, if he is only reading Karlin’s blog, that’s not a waste of time, so it’s easy to agree with this.

  36. @Anatoly Karlin

    Interesting, I still wonder though how exactly one would do something like that.
    Also a bit disturbing tbh, I wouldn’t want some state agency to possess my detailed genetic data.

  37. @Dmitry

    the construction of the temple next to city pond in Ekaterinburg

    What’s that about?
    I tried to google it, but only found something about the church commemorating the Romanovs.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  38. and trying to convince their women to miscegenate with swarthy lotharios from the Global South instead

    In English language on a site no one in Russia knows? Come on. Your writing is getting unpleasant with that orienting it to the tastes of U.S. weirdos who are angry about miscegenation (a nonexistent word in Russian), want segregation laws back and generally can’t get their noses out of other people’s bedrooms.

  39. @Dmitry

    the temple next to city pond in Ekaterinburg

    I did read about it, though. I’m not sure if in English or Hungarian, but I think in English. So while it’s not widely covered, it is indeed reported.

  40. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry

    …import substitution…which result in higher costs and lower quality for some ordinary shoppers.

    Right. Are we now primarily just ‘shoppers‘? I shop too, it is a necessary evil, but it is not even among top 5-6 things that should matter in a normal society.

    We can all orient our countries to be optimised for shopping, it is easy: open everything, preferably 7 by 24, find the cheapest (poorest) group in the world to do the work, turn your culture into a massive marketing campaign, and you will have a shoppers paradise. For a while. Then you will die out.

    Imagine telling our dumpy peasant ancestors to simply slaughter their cows, sleep late, then head to the nearest market (2 hours each way in a parade of eager shoppers looking for a deal), and buy from a swarthy fast-talking ‘enterpreneur’ on credit. The weaker and lazier among our ancestors might even like it – easy life, no kids, mortgage your assets, no worries, and then disappear.

  41. @Toronto Russian

    orienting it to the tastes of U.S. weirdos who are angry about miscegenation (a nonexistent word in Russian), want segregation laws back and generally can’t get their noses out of other people’s bedrooms.

    Yes, Russians have to say “race mixing” instead of a single word like “miscegenation ” and that means the concept is alien to them.

    Just like Americans don’t have a word like “чернильница”, instead having to use two whole words like “coal burner” or “mud shark” which makes things completely different.

    • Agree: Exile, Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @Toronto Russian
  42. Exile says:

    Nemtsova and Saker should open a dating agency for Orthodox women & Muslim men.

    “The Fertile Crescents?”

  43. Moreover, a bioweapon designed to be used against Russians would also wipe out most Slavs, including Poles.

    I don’t think the US cares about that.

    In any case, here are the hard facts:

    1. Putin, who is after all more informed than us, is taking this very seriously.
    2. Americans are collecting Russian genetic samples.
    3. Americans are also building secretive biotech labs around Russia – in Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine.
    4. All of this is either directly ordered by the Pentagon or overseen by organizations linked to the US Department of Defense, so it’s obviously not for any peaceful reason or just research.

    https://www.rt.com/news/438543-georgia-us-laboratory-bio-weapons/
    https://www.rt.com/news/408416-russians-biological-samples-research/
    https://sputniknews.com/military/201711011058712235-pentagon-explains-russian-biomaterial-collection/
    https://sputniknews.com/world/201609081045088663-us-russia-biological-laboratories/

  44. whahae says:
    @notanon

    Already listed him (Hermann). Arminius is his slave name.

    • Replies: @Disordered Deacon
  45. Beckow says:
    @Spisarevski

    I have been told by Americans that Russians also don’t have a word for ‘freedom’…

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
    , @Anonymous
  46. NYMOM says:

    Well at the risk of repeating myself and aggravating everyone on this blog I don’t see where all of these Slav immigrants are going to come from or if they would be of any use to Russia if they did. Most Slavs from Eastern Europe are very similar to the peoples from Western Europe in that the women are educated, work outside of the home and thus have very few children…

    So I return to my earlier question of why Russia didn’t follow through with giving passports to those South African farmers as most of them are of some sort of Germanic/Scandinavian stock, Christian and families with numerous children. Not to mention already skilled in the use of firearms as they are under constant threat of attack on their farms with no assistance from the police of their countries. Somehow the character of these people seem to fit better with Russia’s grand plan than Eastern European Slavs whose people are already Westernized to the point of low or no replacement birth rates in their own countries

    Not to mention Russia is looking for farmers anyway. So it kind of sort of make more sense to reach out to those South African ones…

    Just sayin…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  47. @Beckow

    I have been told by Americans that Russians also don’t have a word for ‘freedom’…

    LOL
    Reminds me of the “Dothraki don’t have a word for thank you” moment in GoT.
    Not having a word for something fundamental is a way to show that certain people are barbarians, and people who already perceive Russians like this can easily believe that Russian has no word for “freedom”.

  48. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @NYMOM

    Somebody (I think Dmitry) said that the farmers thing was basically just a single family inquiring about purchasing some land, not any kind of mass movement i.e. something that got blown way out of proportion for propaganda purposes.

    Most SA farmers are going to be looking at the UK, NZ, Australia, Canada anywhere in the EU or possibly America before they even consider immigrating to Russia.

    • Replies: @NYMOM
  49. Dmitry says:
    @Beckow

    just ‘shoppers‘?

    I wasn’t sure if “shoppers” was the correct word when writing this sentence (maybe “consumers”, as in contradistinction of “producers”, or “owners of means of production”). .

    “Import substitution” is popular with powers (if not primarily, then perhaps secondarily), because it is useful way of helping your friends.

    Money for import substitution does not grow on trees, but is from higher prices or lower quality for shoppers (so it is operating like a tax on the rest of the country), or directly taxes and subsidies.

    There are benefits of import substitution – geopolitical advantage of self-relying (i.e. security of production in critical industries), and providing local jobs.

    However, in relation to the latter – result of import substitution jobs, seems to me, to be even more economically unequal, than in the rest of the economy. We discussed this a few months ago about ОАК. Government father (head of air safety) appoints the private daughter as director civil contracts of Sukhoi, where she is selling the Superjet. This family has (from our social media observation) property in Monaco, but engineers’ salary in her company begins at $380 per month.

    • Replies: @JL
    , @reiner Tor
    , @Beckow
  50. JL says:
    @Dmitry

    In Russia, since the devaluation in 2014, and subsequent import substitution of a wide variety of foodstuffs, prices have gone down while quality has gone up. Many of these industries are indeed subsidized, but I fail to see how this is bad for the average consumer. I certainly don’t mind my tax money being spent in such a way that I receive a higher quality staple product at a lower price.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Dmitry
  51. @Dmitry

    There are benefits of import substitution – geopolitical advantage of self-relying (i.e. security of production in critical industries), and providing local jobs.

    Countries like Japan, South Korea, the US etc. used import substitution to build up their – initially weak – industries.

  52. MarkinPNW says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Sort of like Brezhnev, who apparently shocked Margaret Thatcher by making a “private” explicit statement about his concern for the future of a certain “race” (the one he believed they both belonged to, in spite of Brezhnev’s semi-Asiatic eyebrows).

  53. melanf says:
    @German_reader

    Ah, ok I found what it’s about:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48276170

    It’s a longer story. At first (when local oligarchs decided to pay for the construction of the Cathedral) it was supposed to restore the original Cathedral of Yekaterinburg (destroyed after the revolution).

    However, this caused protests as it would have to destroy the fountain (built in Soviet times) . Then it was supposed to build a Cathedral on the island in lake city,

    but this led to protests as citizens were outraged that the lake will be disfigured. Then it was decided to build a temple in the square,

    but this caused protests as the townspeople were outraged that the temple mutilates the square.

    It’s good that the residents protect their city from the ugly buildings of the ROC, but it would be better if they allowed to restore the original Cathedral of the 18th century

  54. Adam says:
    @melanf

    My question is who is using these churches. If the services could be filled regularly then the construction is justified. But as far as I know 10% or less of Russians are regular church goers.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @anonymous coward
  55. @Beckow

    This is exactly true.

    My ancestors came to Pennsylvania from Germany in the 1700s. Life was very hard in southern Germany then, and the truth is that only the fittest of adults generally could make it to America, then successfully start their own farms.

    I myself was a very, very weak man – in terms of telos, self-awareness, confidence, and ability – for most of my early years and am only recovering within the last 5-10 years to approach something akin to real manhood. Thank goodness for gradual red-pilling. I awoke from the post-war American nightmare – of two cars, a garage, and porn-induced erectile dysfunction – and got myself to the real American dream: steady labor, a nice family, a good church, a peaceful life.

    Consumerism is a disease and a disgrace.

    Read Wendell Berry.

  56. @Toronto Russian

    ….and generally can’t get their noses out of other people’s bedrooms.

    Please keep your sexual libertinism disguised as libertarianism up there in Toronto where it belongs. And please take all of our sexual liberals up to Canada with you. Maybe then we can start to get our country back.

    The logic of libertinism-qua-libertarianism is a sad joke and a dangerous problem. The idea that what happens in the bedroom does not affect the rest of the community is an outrageous (but highly profitable) scam.

    Trying to escape from coercion is a waste of time. So is trying to escape from decent sexual standards.

    (Incidentally, though, I actually do not support legal restraints on miscegenation, although, ala Muhammad Ali, I certainly believe it should be frowned upon socially. I do, of course, support prudent legal restraints on sodomy and the like, because I am not a sap.)

  57. @Spisarevski

    Well, what is the Russian word for “freedom” and how does its meaning compare to our English word?

    Asking for a friend………..;)

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
    , @LatW
    , @E
  58. Dmitry says:
    @JL

    prices have gone down while quality has gone up.

    Prices have increased for products, including foods, related to import substitution, and this is well documented.

    Price might decrease or stay the same in other staples foods, but not a result of substituting for trade, but rather good harvest conditions. (For example record harvest in 2017).

    I’m not thinking about farming though, which is of less useful for helping friend, but rather “big fish”, like in Rostec and ОАК.

  59. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Well, what is the Russian word for “freedom” and how does its meaning compare to our English word?

    Asking for a friend………..;)

    It’s the same word in all Slavic languages – svoboda (except Serbo-Croatian where the v is replaced with l so it’s sloboda). It’s the same as freedom.

  60. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry

    Me thinks that ‘shoppers’ and ‘consumers’ are the same thing.

    You are mixing up issues, corruption and nepotism are something else – one car argue that outsourcing them to a foreign country deprives locals of opportunities. Or do you prefer a Chinese tycoon hiring his daughter, or a Korean boss giving contracts to his son-in-law? How is doing it at home worse?

    My point is that the logic of buying the cheapest stuff available anywhere is a downward spiral for more advanced countries. There will always be someone willing to work for less, or harder, somewhere among the 7 billion people in the world. Do you want to work harder for less so you can have cheaper shopping? It benefits the socialist class of untouchable government employees, retirees, welfare consumers, academicians, culture workers (on subsidies), but it literally destroys the rest of the society.

    The idea that the ultimate value – often the only one – is how cheaply one can buy stuff (mostly to be disposed soon after) is a modern idiocy based on a simple-minded misunderstanding of Adam Smith. You can have cheap shopping in the West, or you can have a sustainable society – you can’t have both. The ones telling you that it is possible, that ‘we can compete’, are lying to you. Or – more often – live off facilitating the process as a small minority. And we are back to corruption, or worse. Selling your own countrymen for a small, easy gain has always been considered a form of treason.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  61. Dmitry says:
    @melanf

    Issue here is not only architectural mutilation, but also development the waterfront, which has the most potential for the city.

    For example, on the other side of the pond there is no coherent connection, so you have to use only one side anyway for walking.

    I discussed these topics 5 months ago (before any protests).
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/technomedievalism-2/#comment-2749235

    Architecture behaviour of the church is also a bit amazing, and this is more general and there are worse things, where there were not enough protests.

    For example, I discussed how they destroyed the oldest building (the only, classical 18th century) in Ekaterinburg when pretending to renovate.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/notre-dame-2/#comment-3158801

    They also just destroyed a 200 year old gate, I believe because they could not drive their automobiles through.

  62. Dmitry says:
    @Adam

    Number of “regular church goers” – is around 1-2% (probably depending on how we define “regular”).

    For example, monthly communion is 1,2% of self-identifying orthodox public, attend it.

    There is regional variation as well. In Easter services (which is the most important of the year), in Sverdlovsk region, it’s 2.7% can attend an Easter service, but in Chelyabinsk region it is 0,8%.

    Numbers going to church peaked at the highest level in the 1990s, and have fallen to a very stable level since the end of the 1990s, which is a little lower than the 1990s levels.

    Some priests complain on Facebook about the church construction, because they think it dilutes the services across more buildings.

    However, this building of churches must also be related to the construction industry and is popular with authorities for this reason. In some new districts, like the Academic district outside Ekaterinburg, you could see a completed church is constructed before much of the houses, and a lot of more normal infrastructure that people need there (and actually it looks quite strange when you see the church is built before much of the houses).

    • Replies: @Adam
  63. Dmitry says:
    @Beckow

    You are mixing up issues, corruption and nepotism are something else

    Why are the authorities quite relaxed, if not some people are happy, about topics like “allegedly worsening relations with the West” and import substitution? It provides a lot of opportunities to help friends.

    Of course,”corruption and nepotism” exists in general, in all countries, and you cannot blame import substitution for this, but rather the human race. “Corruption and nepotism” can even co-exist with successful businesses, and with “nepotism”, a lot of times it does not actually damage the economy, but is rather a natural part of it.

    My point is when there is “worsening relations” with the West, and various rusophobia and histrionics in American media is one example – there are benefits for the government itself.

    So, obviously, e.g Chemezov benefits from the import substitution. But it hasn’t resulted in creating high salary jobs for a normal engineer. And I’m not sure I want to fly in Superjet very much (even if Boeing 737 Max is even worse)

    • Replies: @melanf
    , @Beckow
  64. Adam says:
    @Dmitry

    In that case the construction is obviously a stupid waste. I hope the protests of the citizens are successful.

    • Replies: @melanf
  65. melanf says:
    @Adam

    In that case the construction is obviously a stupid waste.

    Undoubtedly, but the money for the construction was given by local businessmen, it’s not city money

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  66. melanf says:
    @Dmitry

    So, obviously, e.g Chemezov benefits from the import substitution. But it hasn’t resulted in creating high salary jobs for a normal engineer

    At least the ban on food imports has led to a very significant increase in the food industry. So there is no doubt that the ban was successful

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  67. @Toronto Russian

    What a surprise–a female with a boring opinion seeking to enforce orthodoxy.

    Get lost.

    • Replies: @Toronto Russian
  68. @Kent Nationalist

    but they could do that with Leon Degrelle

    What! and end up with a DeGretler!?!

  69. Dmitry says:
    @melanf

    And e.g. Poles stop sending their apples, so there was a real (not artificial) need for more local apples.

    But let’s see what is the benefit for import substitution for opiates, for example? The outward reasoning is because sanctioning countries of Russia like America and EU are currently producing the opiates (although they are not sanctioning against export to Russia currently).

    So now, even without a real need, will begin local production of opiates to substitute for the imports. A potential benefit is that contracts for the production, could go to friends the government.

    But here is a typical industry (opiate industry) where it was better to import the product, than to produce locally (local production will cost for law enforcement – and this monetary cost will be not be seen in accounting figures -, and it could introduce new lobby for increasing opiate prescriptions as happened in America). So really, what is the at least the secondary motivation for this law to import substitute for opiates?

    • Replies: @Beckow
  70. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry

    …it provides a lot of opportunities to help friends.

    So does any business activity. What’s wrong with helping your friends? Do you prefer helping enemies or random strangers? In the past people used to boast about the importance of helping friends – see Iliad for juicy details.

    …worsening relations” with the West, and various rusophobia and histrionics in American media is one example – there are benefits for the government itself.

    Maybe that’s the point, the sneaky Trumpster is secretly trying to stiffen the Russian government spines so they can better meddle on his behalf.

    But seriously, there are always benefits for any government that is under a mindless propaganda attack. Since time immemorial when one tribe screamers (or poets) yelled insults across a ravine at another tribe, the other tribe’s elites celebrated. There is nothing better for Kremlin than the semi-retarded media campaigns hurled at them by the Western press. Maybe they are secretly paying for it.

    As we have seen the Russian meddling story has evolved into ‘it was the Russian disinformation bastards who slipped us the fake Steel dossier‘ – when there is a will, there will always be a way. In any scenario, the Washington elites are the victims no matter what they do – in the future they will brazenly claim that their hysteria was a result of ‘KGB manipulation‘.

    That’s a wonderful narrative for their own public in the West – propaganda is always and everywhere mainly aimed at one’s own population – but it also greatly benefits Russia. They now know who hates them – it would be hard to miss even for the likes of Butina (what a f..ing name, Butina, Russian casting is impeccable). Their ability and desire to encamp to the West with their assets has been undermined. And the intellectual spine has been firmed up, who is today going to suggest a Clinton statue on Red Square? Or promote a Tourettes syndrome suffering chess-player in New York as the next president of Russia? And domestic goat cheese is really good for you.

    …Chemezov benefits from the import substitution

    We all agree that Chemezov (whomever f..ck he is) needs to pay his engineers better. No argument there. The accounting ladies should get a raise too…

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  71. Dmitry says:
    @melanf

    Issue here is not of money, but of public space and urbanism.

    In this place, it’s better that nothing is built here (just keep it as an open walkway with its few grass and trees).

    However, there should now be build a specialized, pedestrian only bridge on the pond, so that the embankments can be connected in a coherent way.

    On the other side, the embankment can be connected without having to walk on dirty bridges with cars.

    Pedestrian bridge here should be the same as what you can see if you visit cities like Bilbao and London. (The one in Bilbao has a lot of its own bad architecture, but it’s the general idea of this pedestrian bridging is what is needed and actually what everyone in the city would be excited about something like this). And yes, the church can attract tourism, but

  72. Beckow says:
    @Dmitry

    …what is the benefit for import substitution for opiates

    Are you talking poppy seed? Because, more poppy seed, the better, mak uber alles as we sing in our villages. I have some big ones in my gardens.

    Let’s see: Polish apples versus anything from poppy seed, it’s not even close. Law enforcement actually gets better with more poppy seed around – one is calmer, the aim is steadier, and the bad guys usually just fall asleep.

    Having one’s own drug industry under domestic control is crucial. Ask the Germans how their anxious belt-buckle polishing soldiers lost it in WWII against damn-the-consequences Red Army lads. There is your motivation, right there.

  73. Dmitry says:
    @Beckow

    does any business activity. What’s wrong with helping your friends? Do you prefer helping enemies or random strangers?

    Yes at the top, but here is between a small number of friends.

    So even if people wanted to talk about agriculture (which was not what I referred to as “big fish”) , then e.g. Gennady Timchenko became largest owner of many agricultural concerns – for example, apple production (Alma) and rice, cereals, etc (AFG National).

    So when Poles stopped sending apples (although, of course, this was EU decision, rather than intentional import substitution that is happening in aircraft industry, or planned for new things like opiates – so it’s not really what I was referring to),

    Timchenko was given a very strong investment position in apple production, and I assume is the largest individual investor in the country for this industry, and therefore the person who benefits the most. On the other hand, ordinary shoppers benefit from elimination of Poland’s competition to the apple industry and where does the money come from?

    • Replies: @JL
  74. LatW says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    what is the Russian word for “freedom”

    One beautiful and powerful Russian word you might want to teach your friend is “Воля” (pronounced “volya” with a very soft ‘l’). It literally means “will”, but also freedom (it means just “freedom” in Ukrainian). The root is common in most Balto-Slavic languages and means “will, freedom, lack of restraint”.

    In the military, “Вольно!” means “at ease”.

    • Replies: @Adam
  75. Adam says:
    @LatW

    There’s also свобода which is just an exact translation of ‘freedom’.

    Anglophone monolinguals seem to be highly susceptible to the idea that other languages are ‘deficient’. I’ve heard more than once that English is the only language with synonyms. Say what you want about Russia the country, but Russian literature is incredibly rich. You can’t achieve that with some kind of undeveloped language.

  76. El Dato says:
    @notanon

    Well, there already is a story which features a building-sized flying killer bear created by biotech magic. He comes complete with normal-sized supersoldier hunter-killer bears as proxies.

    AHHH MOTHERLAND!!!

    It is set in some desert zone though.

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/in-borne-theres-a-biotech-apocalypse-so-weird-its-almost-plausible/

    • Replies: @notanon
  77. notanon says:
    @neutral

    what he could do about it is unclear

    provide a plausibly deniable platform for dissident voices within the West which is outside the control of US media censorship.

  78. Passer by says:
    @Toronto Russian

    U.S. weirdos who are angry about miscegenation

    The vast, vast majority of white people in western countries (and even in South Africa, where they are being swamped by non-whites) prefer dating and marrying other white people and there are plenty of stats and studies about that.

    Maybe you are the one who is the weirdo.

  79. notanon says:

    thing about standard economic arguments is…

    since around the 1980s the context changed dramatically to one where there is an almost unlimited supply of labor, either by offshoring jobs to places where the labor is cheaper or where jobs can’t be offshored then importing more labor to increase local supply…

    and the problem with that is labor is both a production cost and a source of revenue so getting into a downward spiral on labor costs -> downward spiral on revenue…

    so in this specific context insulating yourself from globalist insanity with a certain level of inefficient autarchy (50%?) is probably a good thing for economic survival until somehow or other the balance of supply and demand for labor equalizes.

    Capitalism can’t do this itself because 1) any individual firm that tried to resist the tide would be out-competed by those that didn’t and go bust and 2) by the time the oligarchs who own the political-media class are personally effected it will be too late

    ergo getting sanctioned by the US was very lucky imo.

    • Agree: JL
  80. @Spisarevski

    “Смешение рас” is a stylistically neutral term, while “miscegenation” is something akin to “untermensch”. It’s meant to degrade. The verb form “смешивать расы” is never actually spoken, and “спать с мексиканцем” (what the situation would be called in real life) is nowhere near “miscegenate” by its stylistic coloration. A woman engaging in that would be condemned for whoring, for stupidity, but unless it’s skinheads who discuss her, not for an offence to racial purity.

    If he were no Mexican but a Tadjik or Gypsy on the other hand…

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  81. NYMOM says:
    @Anonymous

    I get that most of the South African farmers would rather be accepted in these other countries but unfortunately these other countries are unable or unwilling to accept them…

    Even Australia had to back down from offering special refugee status to the South African farmers after protests from the left in their country claiming it was racist to offer it to South African farmers and not other 3rd world economic refugees…

    Russia’s grand plan just seemed to fit with these people since Russia needs farmers and higher population of people (whom their is some hope of integrating into Russia at some point).

    I am sorry to hear it wasn’t a genuine offer as I think it would have been an asset to both sides if it happened.

    Oh well.

  82. @Toronto Russian

    “Смешение рас” is a stylistically neutral term, while “miscegenation” is something akin to “untermensch”.

    Miscegenation is literally derived from mixing + race in Latin.

    It is ok in Russian and not so ok in English for the exact same reason that негр is ok in Russian (despite efforts by liberal untermensch to change that) while Negro in English is a no-no.

    Namely, because Russia isn’t yet as pozzed as the Anglosphere.

    • Replies: @AP
  83. AP says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Or жид is normal in western Ukraine (and was normal in central and Eastern Ukraine) and Poland, but scandalized Russians so it stopped being used in central and eastern Ukraine under Soviet influence.

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
  84. @Thorfinnsson

    Do you seriously hope for a career in politics while leaving this kind of online history? Like it won’t be unearthed by the first rival in your first election campaign, who will get out of his way to show everyone that you want to reinstate slavery etc.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  85. SkipJack says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Very true. Many of the non ethnic Russians in Russia were a result of conquest and expansion. Very different than say immigration. As such when you lead such a big empire as Russia/USSR, you have to somehow make sure the multi ethnic, multi racial country doesn’t descend into race riots

  86. @melanf

    Ah yes, always trust a Jew to explain in detail to Christians how they should (or should not) worship!

    • Replies: @melanf
  87. @Adam

    Do that math. Even 1% of 1.5 million is 15000 people. Assume 100 people per church, that means 150 churches. Currently there are only 65 churches in the city.

    So yes, despite the ever-present advice of our friendly neighborhood Jews, there is indeed demand for more churches.

  88. JL says:
    @Dmitry

    Prices have increased for products, including foods, related to import substitution, and this is well documented.

    You’re going to have to do better than that, because my experience as a consumer and investor in Russia tells a much different story. Furthermore, you need to consider quality, these aren’t fungible products like oil. I guess you don’t actually live in Russia, so some of these nuances are lost. In the US, people look for the “Made in the USA” label, in Japan “Made in Japan”, and that’s starting to happen in Russia now as well. It’s not a matter of pride or price advantage that these will be chosen over “made in PRC”.

    So when Poles stopped sending apples (although, of course, this was EU decision, rather than intentional import substitution

    There was no EU decision to stop sending apples to Russia, this was a decision made by Russia specifically with the goal of import substitution in mind. You’re forming an opinion without even having the basic facts straight.

    On the other hand, ordinary shoppers benefit from elimination of Poland’s competition to the apple industry

    Yes, because Poland was dumping low quality product at extremely low prices into an unregulated and unprotected market. I used to think Polish apples were garbage until I ate the apples that the Poles produced for domestic consumption. I’m willing to pay more for higher quality, domestically produced apples, though this wasn’t even an option before 2014. I don’t care whether it’s Gennady Timchenko or Vasya Pupkin producing these apples.

    Your favorite middle eastern country does the same, btw. Russia imports their agricultural products, which are of much lower quality than what they produce for their own consumption. Perhaps there’s something in your neoliberal dogma that can explain this phenomenon?

    To be sure, I don’t think blanket import substitution is wise policy. However, applied selectively, or due to national security concerns, it can be quite successful and the costs justified. Other commenters here have provided numerous historical examples where protectionism and import substitution have been implemented successfully. And we have a dynamic situation in the global economy where competitive devaluations have run their course, and protectionism is the logical next step.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  89. melanf says:
    @anonymous coward

    Ah yes, always trust a Jew to explain in detail to Christians how they should (or should not) worship!

    By Jews, you mean the oligarchs who want to finance the construction of the Cathedral? Although the “patrons” of the temple as far as I know are not Jews, but the previous project of the temple was supported by the then head of the city Eugene Roizman (Jew).
    That is, the struggle of citizens against the construction of the Cathedral is a struggle against Jewish influence. Interesting point of view

  90. Is there a faggier Russian city than Ekaterinburg?

    No coincidence that it also has the highest rate of AIDS.

  91. Dmitry says:
    @JL

    my experience as a consumer and investor in Russia tells a much different story. Furthermore, you need to consider quality,

    “my experience” – personal opinion, from sample size of 1.

    Inflation index ends positive for e.g. fruit and vegetables, each year. There is a fall in harvest months, and by the end of the year the price is higher.

    https://www.cbr.ru/Collection/Collection/File/19714/Infl_01042019.pdf

    was no EU decision to stop sending apples to Russia, this was a decision made by Russia specifically with the goal of import substitution in mind. You’re forming an opinion without even having the basic facts straight.

    This is a result of EU sanctions, and counter-sanctions in 2014. Not much of Russia’s responsibility, unlike more recent projects.

    live in Russia, so some of these nuances are lost. In the US, people look for the “Made in the USA” label, in Japan “Made in Japan”, and that’s starting to happen in Russia now as well. It’s not a matter of pride or price advantage… I’m willing to pay more for higher quality, domestically produced apples, though this wasn’t even an option before 2014.

    ? I’m willing to pay more for iPhone than Huawei, or Sony than Samsung. It does not imply there is an advantage from removing competing products. Let’s say for an American, to start various policies subsidizing iPhone and replacing imports of Huawei.

    Your favorite middle eastern country does the same, btw. Russia imports their agricultural products,

    Israel? I think they follow a lot of import substitution? Israel has some of the highest food prices in the world, and outside of hi-tech, an noncompetitive economy controlled by 18 families.

    It’s a very good illustration of comparative advantage. In hi-tech – where they have comparative advantage – they are competitive, but in e.g.producing chocolate, they create low quality chocolate at prices higher than Germany or UK.

    To be sure, I don’t think blanket import substitution is wise policy. However, applied selectively, or due to national security concerns, it can be quite successful and the costs justified. Other commenters here have provided numerous historical examples where protectionism and import substitution have been implemented successfully.

    I’m not an economist, but just as if you want to say that “Vitamin D reduces your risk of cancer” – you need to post academic studies showing that import substitution is effective, rather than saying “my experience is”.

    My point is to explain, seconday, self-interest factors for why import substitution became so fashionable.

    Of course, there are critical industries, and there is some geopolitically useful import substitution. There are advantages to import substitution from this point of view (when other countries’ apply sanction).

    However, the money does not materialize magically for this, is paid by consumers, while it is popular in government because it allows increase of state capacity and help for friends.

    But again, if I am wrong, and import substitution does lower prices and improve quality, then post the studies showing this.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Swarthy Greek
    , @JL
  92. @Toronto Russian

    I’m not expecting any insight into the human condition from an automaton, but you may wish to acquaint yourself with concepts like the “Overton Window”. Or on a more basic level, “Agree & Amplify”.

    Shaming people for deviating from orthodoxy only works when the victim plays along.

  93. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    You are right that food costs are high and non competitive in Israel, but the quality is extremely high. Food in general there is excellent, particularly produce. Israeli chocolate is quite good, and coffee in Israel is comparable to Italy (Starbucks failed in Israel because the quality was too low)

    A can of diet coke is 2$ rather than the 1$ it is in NYC – which is absurd. So it seems even foreign companies have higher prices there.

    Plus – they have 5% milkfat cottage cheese!

    Although expensive craft dairy producers in America have just recently come out with a 6% milkfat cottage cheese.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  94. @Dmitry

    Russians spend a smaller amount of their Salary on food than they did a few years ago when most food was imported. (https://www.intellinews.com/russians-spend-a-third-of-their-income-on-food-153813/)
    The decline in real incomes is caused by the increase in price of consumer durables due to the devaluation of the Ruble. Overall import substitution has proven to be beneficial to Russian Agriculture.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  95. Dmitry says:

    Your link is a claim from VTB Capital?

    But we have the real official data, that price of food is increasing every year (even while there have been record harvests in 2017 and 2018). So prices are increasing incrementally.

    2017 was not bad, but 2018 was quite a significant rise in food prices (almost five percent increase in food prices).

    • Replies: @Swarthy Greek
  96. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    Discount Israeli coffee shops – Cofix – are becoming popular in some cities like Moscow now.

    This is not because of quality, but the low price.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @AaronB
  97. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    The guy is a little over the top over the whole thing, however, the torte made of ‘smorodyna’ covered with dark chocolate looks interesting as does the quiche.

  98. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    Israel’s version of Starbucks, Aroma Espresso Bar, has a few cafes open in New York.

    They’re quite good for a large chain.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  99. @Toronto Russian

    Lol, I think I know who you are. When I heard that you are a female, it clicked. Not trying to dox, for some reason I just really think that you are the person. Would be interested to test out my theory but if it ends up being right then I’ve probably fucked myself over for life, since you’ll get my identity.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  100. Denis says:

    The theory that genomics companies cooperate with Western intelligence services to compile databases that could be used to create ethnic bioweapons is not a fringe one in Russia. It is rumored to have been the primary motivation for the ban on the export of human biomaterial in 2007.

    I was under the impression that that was precisely the reason for the ban, and that it was out in the open that the Russian government suspected America of developing bioweapons. What was the stated reason for the ban? Personally, it seems pretty clear to me that the American government is doing precisely that.

  101. Dmitry says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Toronto is famous for its large Russian community, with many tens of thousands of people.

    Canada has a meritocratic visa system, so it’s one of the easiest Western countries to reach.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  102. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    Interesting – do you live in New York? How do you find the city – improving or getting worse?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  103. @Dmitry

    The increase in food price in 2018 was mostly due to the anticipation of the VAT Tax hike, not by import substitution.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  104. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    Toronto is a wonderful town, and I’ve been there many times, especially as a kid. An uncle of mine lives there. Way before it swelled with Russian immigrants, it was known for its vibrant Ukrainian community, that has no doubt also swelled. Unfortunately, I don’t think that the two communities are very friendly one to another today thanks to the Kievan Nazi Junta…ooops, I meant the Putlereich neo-Nazis. 🙂

  105. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    I do live in NYC.i

    In general NYC has been dramatically improving for the past decade. Entire once derelict districts have been redeveloped into upscale hipster zones, and the riverfront in Brooklyn and Manhattan has been developed into an almost continuous series of interesting and attractive parks.

    There are more amenities and entertainment options than ever, and more tourists, Europeans, and cool people.

    The scale of the transformation is very impressive – it truly feels like an imperial capital.

    Crime seems very low and not a serious issue even in peripheral areas late at night, although perhaps it’s still a problem very deep into the”hood, and incidents occasionally happen anywhere.

    At the same time, the homeless population has exploded. In winter they can sometimes take over entire subway cars. Or they stink so incredibly bad that in rush hour traffic half of a subway car will be empty as everyone huddles to one side. There are also more people living in parked vans and RVs – a different breed than the homeless. Many of these seem clean and middle class, and connected to the art or music scene somehow.

    Rents have gone sky high even for areas on the periphery of cool areas.

    The crowds on the subways have gotten unbearable, and the subway in general is old, dirty, and uncomfortable – but very cheap compared to Europe, and functioning 24 hours unless being repaired.

    It feels like a new Gilded Age of the kind that America periodically creates, of extremes of wealth and poverty, and the stresses of extreme capitalism are on display. In a way it has a lot of energy and fun to it, but it obviously is inhuman and harsh and not sustainable in the long run.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  106. Dmitry says:
    @Swarthy Greek

    VAT rise will not apply to essential food products (which has a 10% VAT rate)

    Moreover, why would the 2% VAT increase in 2019 (which applies only partially to food), explain 5% increase increase in food prices in 2018.

  107. Dmitry says:
    @AaronB

    Crime seems very low and not a serious issue even in peripheral areas late at night, although

    It’s still far higher statistically than Western Europe. For example, London in its worst month, still has far less proportionally murders than New York in its best month.

    the homeless population has exploded.

    This is similar to in California (where I have seen beaches covered with them). It’s a problem of liberal laws for homeless in some states (like California), attracting homeless from other states?

    Rents have gone sky high even for areas on the periphery of cool areas.

    This process seems unpleasant, but from a more cold perspective it could be a necessary stage for improving the city.

    High rents and prices, will perhaps scare poor people to go outside the city, and result in a better atmosphere and demographic profile.

    subways have gotten unbearable, and the subway in general is old, dirty, and uncomfortable – but very cheap compared to Europe, and functioning 24 hours unless being repaire

    This is very true about the shabby subway train of New York, and I remember this years ago. It’s very funny that they do not want to upgrade it, or at least buy some hi-tech trains to impress tourists. This is really some extremely American “public poverty and private wealth”.

    On the other hand, in small provincial cities in Spain, where there are few rich people (and you cannot see Ferraris), they have the most hi-tech, shiny and modern subway systems, with the newest Siemens trains.

    In countries like Spain, it is probably the EU (i.e. British, French and German taxpayer) who are paying to build the subway, however.

    But with the amount of money in New York, it is quite shocking they cannot invest a few billion dollars for upgrading its subway.

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  108. AaronB says:
    @Dmitry

    You are correct about murders, but it appears that other types of violent crime are worse in London than NYC –

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2018-06-19/why-london-has-more-crime-than-new-york

    Murders in NYC I believe primarily affect the black and Hispanic population in parts of the city that are somewhat remote from trendy areas.

    Its almost unheard of for an average middle class person to be murdered in an average or nice area, or even a peripheral area.

    Regarding the homeless, the immediate cause is undoubtedly laxer laws. I remember very suddenly around 2015, it went from almost no homeless to tons of them.

    However, the larger cause is certainty the cutthroat economic environment, high rents, and individualist Anglo culture where families don’t take care of each other.

    There’s quite a few articles in the US press about the new wave of homeless – many of these people are forced into the street as rents rise or they lose their job.

    As for high rents forcing out an undesirable demographic – the problem is that many of the people who earn a lot of money these days are quite dull and conformist. Yes, they contribute to the city and patronize cultural activities, but many of the people who give a city its cultural vitality aren’t particularly interested in money and don’t have a lot of it. A great city needs these people.

    What’s more, the economy today is not exactly what you’d call fair – so its hard to argue the people able to afford sky high rents are actually more deserving, and they are frequently rather uninteresting people.

    In the end a great and vital city needs all types to be truly attractive – yes, we need fabulously rich people to throw grand parties and lend glamour to the city, and no healthy person really resents that, and we need solid hardworking bourgeois types who are rather dull but dependable, but we also need exciting artists and musicians and bohemians.

    It’s a balance – the problem is that the American economy has gotten too unbalanced in favor of the boring people.

    And there’s the simple question of social justice – where rich people are fine, but squeezing the poor to such an incredible degrees is just greedy.

    You are quite correct about the subway – one of the strangest things about America, this unwillingness to spend on public I infrastructure.

    But its weird because NYC just spent a lot on really attractive waterfront parks and other projects like the skyline – an elevated green strip on a disused subway line.

    But what a joke the subway is, peeling paint, rusting metal, rats, garbage, noisy old cars – one of the richest cities in the world 🙂

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  109. Anonymous[607] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beckow

    You are right! They don’t have one, they have two:
    1) Svoboda
    2) Volia

  110. JL says:
    @Dmitry

    “my experience” – personal opinion, from sample size of 1.

    As an investor, I have a track record, as well as access to financial research and the analysts that produce it, companies’ management, government officials, etc. Otherwise, the improvement in food quality has been noticed by pretty much everyone except for you, probably because you don’t live in Russia and get most of your information about everyday life from various blogs and social media. Even Navalny lovers begrudgingly admit this. Karlin wrote about it here:

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/10-ways-russia-better-than-usa/

    Anecdotal evidence should not be dismissed out of hand. I have a staple food, what I eat 5-6 times a week, grass-fed boneless ribeyes. In 2012, I was buying this meat, imported from Australia and New Zealand, for 1200-1400 RUR/kilo. Now I buy Заречное brand for about 900 RUR/kilo and the quality is superior to the imports, which now sells for 2-3k RUR/kilo. Russia created an entire industry, beef production, essentially from scratch.

    Inflation index ends positive for e.g. fruit and vegetables, each year. There is a fall in harvest months, and by the end of the year the price is higher.

    As has already been pointed out, unless you can flesh out the effects of import substitution, basic inflation figures for the past three years tell us very little.

    This is a result of EU sanctions, and counter-sanctions in 2014. Not much of Russia’s responsibility

    Are you really doubling down on this? The counter-sanctions were 100% Russia’s responsibility. Again, you need to get basic facts straight before forming an opinion.

    ? I’m willing to pay more for iPhone than Huawei, or Sony than Samsung. It does not imply there is an advantage from removing competing products. Let’s say for an American, to start various policies subsidizing iPhone and replacing imports of Huawei.

    I know, the Americans would never resort to measures that would cripple Huawei’s competitive advantage, protecting its industry while limiting consumer choice. Oh, wait…

    Israel?

    While I’m vaguely aware of the problems of high food and housing prices in Israel, they’re completely irrelevant to my point, which was that they export vastly inferior agricultural products relative to what they consume domestically. This isn’t a criticism of Israel, btw. The reason I brought it up is that you seem to know that country better than you know Russia.

    you need to post academic studies

    You remind me of a fat, medically trained friend of mine who keeps trying to tell me that his vegetarian diet is much healthier than my meat-only diet because that’s what all of the epidiomelogical studies say. “It’s the science!” he claims. Apparently, the N=2 experiment of him being fat, while I am not, is irrelevant, because reasons.

    Your link is a claim from VTB Capital? But we have the real official data

    VTB Capital has the top-ranked financial research in Russia for years running, no other domestic house even comes close, their only competitors are the international houses. That you reject their comprehensive analysis in favor of dry inflation figures from the CBR just illustrates that you are an investing neophyte. But, we already found this out when you decided to regale us with your brilliant idea of investing in residential London RE, maximizing leverage for “free money”, because cable is cheap.

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  111. Dmitry says:
    @JL

    As an investor, I have a track record, as well as access to financial research

    We know as objective fact that food prices are increasing. Some years increasing food prices moderately (2018), and other years more lightly (2017), and this year it will be moderately fast price increases again.

    So I’m not sure what you are arguing about, as you said that prices were falling, and this is not true.

    Otherwise, I’m sure you have a lot of interesting knowledge in your area – but an individual perception of inflation is never accurate compared to actual price index.

    probably because you don’t live in Russia and get most of your information about everyday life from various blogs

    Individual inflation perception is not useful compared to actual inflation rate. And your view (that it becomes cheaper) is, of course, idiosyncratic and unrepresentative.

    As for your desire for anecdotal information. I can see prices when I visit home, but I would not infer inflation rate from this. Where my family (parents) lives, many of the common supermarket chains are specific only to their region and neighbouring areas. Some of their near supermarkets became more expensive recently, but this can reflect the people are becoming more upscale in their purchasing behaviour. Similarly, with increased range (but if you want to relate this to import substitution, you need to add a ceteris paribus clause – as this was happening anyway).

    , basic inflation figures for the past three years tell us very little.

    It tells us prices increased, while you said above that prices decreased. So the claim where you started the argument, is shown false.

    The counter-sanctions were 100% Russia’s responsibility. Again, you need to get basic facts straight before forming an opinion

    Events and tensions of 2014 are not Russia’s responsibility, but all a result of unplanned conflict and resulting sanctions from the EU and US.

    While I’m vaguely aware of the problems of high food and housing prices in Israel, they’re completely irrelevant to my point, which was that they export vastly inferior agricultural products relative to what they consume domestically. This isn’t a criticism of Israel, btw. The reason I brought it up is that you seem to know that country better than you know Russia.

    I’m knowledgeable about Israel, but my personal experience there is around 3,5 months for total time.

    My perception is that prices of food are very high in Israel, and that it is textbook case against import substitution (because they produce their own version of everything).

    I don’t know if they export worse quality products than they consume, or how this would function. (If they export undesirable products, why would people buy them?).

    You remind me of a fat, medically trained friend of mine who keeps trying to tell me that his vegetarian diet is much healthier than my meat-only diet because that’s what all of the epidiomelogical studies

    And you remind me of some smoking 90 year man, who says “cigarettes are healthy because in my experience I smoke, and I am healthy, and so are my friends who smoke, etc”.

    If we want to know if import substitution is effective, then it needs empirical evidence that it works (as well as a logically coherent theory for why it would work).

    VTB Capital has the top-ranked financial research in Russia for years running, no other domestic house even comes close, their only competitors are the international houses. That you reject their comprehensive analysis in favor of dry inflation figures from the CBR

    The article he posted is pure fake news, created by synthesis of different claims, while not reporting what interyear comparison from the same rating system.

    Article says VTB Capital estimated that 55% of income was expended on food in 2015. However, this was actually a prediction at the beginning of 2015, about what they think is result of the recession at the end of 2015 (which in the end the recession was much less bad than expected), that “it would rise to 50-55%”.
    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/02/03/2015/54f40ab59a794794a7c1b8f3

    The article misreports and claims this future prediction (at beginning of recession) was a fact.

    The article itself is comparing with RIA rating.

    If we then look at actual interyear comparison on RIA rating
    https://ria.ru/20181217/1547989821.html

    We can see that the proportion of spending on food has increased (by almost 3%)
    http://www.riarating.ru/regions_rankings/20151224/630004942.html

    So the article was fake news, in the most pure sense.

    That you reject their comprehensive analysis in favor of dry inflation figures from the CBR just illustrates that you are an investing neophyte. But, we already found this out when you decided to regale us with your brilliant idea of investing in residential London RE, maximizing leverage for “free money”, because cable is cheap.

    The problem was the article was fake news.

    It looks at data of household spending on food in 2018, and then compares that to a future prediction VTB Capital has made (which was a future prediction during a time of economic uncertainty and crisis), but instead of reporting it as a prediction, it acts as if that was a fact.

    The article is pure fake news, because the RIA rating data is available for every year, and shows almost 3% increase in proportion of household income spending on food, in the time period the article is reporting.

    As for ideas of buying in London – what do you think about that? The problem seems mainly the legal issue of attaining multiperson mortgage for foreigners.

  112. Dmitry says:
    @Swarthy Greek

    Article is pure fake news. created by synthesis of different claims, while not reporting the interyear comparison from the same rating system (which shows almost 3% increase in proportion of expenditure on food between 2015-18) .

    Article says VTB Capital estimated that 55% of income was expended on food in 2015. However, this was a prediction at the beginning of 2015, about what they think is result of the recession at the end of 2015 (which in the end the recession was much less bad than expected), that “it would rise to 50-55%”.
    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/02/03/2015/54f40ab59a794794a7c1b8f3

    Article misreports and claims this future prediction (at beginning of recession) was a fact.

    The article itself is comparing with RIA rating.

    If we then look at actual interyear comparison on RIA rating in 2018, which it cites.
    https://ria.ru/20181217/1547989821.html

    We can see that the proportion of spending on food has increased (by almost 3%)

    In 2015 proportion of income expenditure on food almost 3% lower.
    http://www.riarating.ru/regions_rankings/20151224/630004942.html

  113. @JL

    You remind me of a fat, medically trained friend of mine who keeps trying to tell me that his vegetarian diet is much healthier than my meat-only diet because that’s what all of the epidiomelogical studies say.

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  114. E says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    There are two. One, свобода, apparently comes from a root meaning “self-dependent”, and is a safe translation of the English “freedom”. . the other воля, is more interesting and poetic. Perhaps it shares the same root as the English word “will” (as in willpower, willful, etc.). The idea is that freedom has to be actively created by having a strong will; the two are so strongly linked that they’re the same word. One way to say “X is free”, “X на воле” is literally something like “X is in a situation where the surroundings smoothly accede to X’s will”. It’s used in old epic poetry and folk songs, but also in modern speech.

    Also, unlike in English, there is never confusion between “free as in Liberty” and “free as in beer”. There is a third word for the latter, безплатный, literally “payless”.

  115. @whahae

    The name of people who could read and write gave him.

  116. @AaronB

    the problem is that the “bohemians and musicians” eventually attract more shabbiness and poverty. it’s one thing to give back (there is a lot of charity), it’s another to encourage bad behavior. give an inch, take a mile. the Anglo culture can be individualist, but also polite. the undesirable demographic sometimes it’s undesirable for its own behavior, and i say this as a whitish non-Anglo who doesn’t care about race individually but does notice group patterns. at any rate, regardless of ethnicity, the boring types need peace and quiet most of the time, and they’re the ones who patronize the musicians, as the rich use their labor more than enough. for example, the subway could use an upgrade – but one of them would be upgrading the safety, allowing right of refusal of service, and that would enrage some “bohemian” people… and the cost i bet would be borne by the bourgeois, that are continually moving to suburbia because the city is getting to be for rich globalists…

  117. The author and a few commenters note that the threat of ethnic weapons is one legitimate motive behind the considered scenario. While the author downplays it she doesnt avoid it.

    The impression which seems to come through from the Russians even via this kind of critique, is that the current Russian leadership is both rational and caring , while the western imperial puppets are both irrational and cruel. And their imperial boss is rational in terms of scientific cruelty.
    Eugenics when not applied to annihilating or subdueing ethnic groups, is not necessarily against the spirit behind the biosphere. Whether or not that spirit is a manner of speaking or taken to be the creator as in the religions.
    Massimmigration is used as a means for the globalists and as a eugenic weapon for altering the previous ethnic character and it makes sense to seriously organise a eugenics countermove to stabilise or improve the previous ethnic character.

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